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Double Homo Albino? No Way!

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I thought this was impossible to prove.

Someone on KS is saying that they produced the worlds first Double Homo Las Vegas and Tremper Albino. I know you can prove out the het, but how can you prove that it can be homo for both traits? You can't! Can you?

I'm not adding a link, cause I don't know if it's against the rules to add a link to another forum in here.

I'm not saying it's impossible to get, just impossible to prove. Am I right in my thinking?
 
You could prove it out by breeding it to both a tremper and a LV...if you get albinos from both strains...its double recessive.
 
If the animal is a double homo, you will get 100% albino babies when bred to each strain. If it were just a het you would only get 50% albino babies and 50% would be hets.
 
If it was homo for one and het for the other when bred with the homo one you would get ALL albino babies, with the het you could get about half albinos and half normals het for albino.
 
if 100% of babies are albino is double homozygous, if it were het for one of the albinos then their offspring would be 50% albino.
 
I don't know which animal you are talking about for certain. I have seen a double that is Tremper and Rainwater. As well as a double that is Tremper and Bell. They are definately different looking. I am sure that a triple is only just around the corner.

Could you be more specific about where it is at on ks?
 
Oh yeah Jodi's done it! :) I've never seen photos myself...but I definitely believe he's telling the truth (and I know others here have seen them)!
 
I have no doubt he did it, I think many can do it. I just didn't think it could be proved out. Now I know. :)

Thank you all for helping me understand. I'm still learning the genetics stuff with these guys. It's like going back to school, but a lot more fun.
 
Call me a purist, but I'm not sure if I like the idea of crossing all the albino strains like that. I mean, what's the point? An albino is an albino, and I think it's incredibly cool that we found 3 strains (so far) in leopard geckos. I think this is unprecedented in captive reptiles. Why dilute such diversity? Maybe we should start holding onto our pure animals to make sure a few straight lines out there.

Jodi said that the animal looked similar to both strains, but others say the crosses look different? I'd like to see photos for sure!
 
I think it coud be extremely useful to have double or triple albinos (assuming people learned to be truthful and let you know when an animal might have such traits)...One male could be used to breed females of different strains to get albino babies from all the females. Also since the strains are mostly uncrossed, it would create a LOT of genetic diversity making for healthier animals.
 
I don't see what the point is to crossing them. If you breed a double albino male to a "single" albino female, all the babies will be albinos het for the other strain. Everything would get mixed up and soon there would be no way to tell the albino strains apart. As far as genetic diversity goes, I agree that is very important, but it is easily accomplished without breeding albino lines to each other. Just my $.02.

*edit - I am not knocking Jodi or anyone else for making the "double albinos", I can understand why they were produced initially. I wish there was a photo of one!
 
"If you breed double albino male to a "single" albino female, all the babies will be albinos het for the other strain."

yeah I dont' know why I didn't think of that.............lol my bad...
 
The reason i did the cross were to prove that all 3 strains were not compatable,and i was right.Then said hell i have the DH lets take it to the next level,so i did.
I do not do pics sorry.
The Tremper Rainwater DH does not look that much differnt.
The Bell Tremper DH does look odd but not that odd.
The Rainwater Bell DH should hatch this year by me.
As most of you know i no longer keep leos,but a very good buddy of mine here in Mn ownes all of the DH,but i am still working with them for the moment.I will try and get pics some time here in 2006,but i am very busy with new things and leos are not one of them.Still love the leos.
If anyone has Q just call 612.802.3980.
 
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