Hmmm..this is all very interesting...
I seem to recall apologizing to Chris... albeit briefly. My apologies for not extending it.
Quote - If she is an adult, then I sincerely apologize to GenX. Though, truly I am not used to seeing animals so thin unless they are rescues or WC. Perhaps frillies are different than other lizards and run bony. My male, however doesn't fit into that mold...He is a cow.
I had one person look at her and tell me she was a "he", I thought so too based on the larger pores, as in this she resembles my male bearded dragons.
I had another tell me after viewing the pics that it is a female. So, I will accept the verdict of female and said if that was the case, I sincerely apologize to Chris...and I do...
As far as the brokering aspect, I did not buy them for resale...I bought them to breed. But, I did so before getting all the info I could on them. It was a case of heart running away with the head. They require as breeders being housed together much more space than my reptile room will allow at this time. I gave a $350 trade for the male frillie - I did not think I overcharged. The female is putting on weight and is fatter than when I purchased her, she still has the stubborn nose rub, but is in much better shape.
As far as my breeder Leos that I'm letting go, true I did not produce most myself of the breeder age animals myself, but I've had most a long time and have gotten eggs from them, but have since decided to go onto other projects.
When I paid off the current pair of UG geckos from Craig that I have, I told him that I am focusing on other projects now and would have to turn around and sell at least one of them. Keep in mind, I sold her for half what I paid for her...I sold her for $350 and Paid $675 - does this sound like good brokering practice? Every Leo I have posted recently I am losing big on. But, I wanted to sell them quickly to give me the funds I need for my boa project.
I sold a lot of babies I produced last season - that is how I prefer to sell, but since I am focusing on other project, I want to bring my Leos down to a number I can easily handle. Apparently no one here has EVER sold an animal they did not produce...amazing. No one has ever decided to focus on other things besides Leos...astounding..
I do not understand all these verbal slams...from Robin I've come to expect them...I don't know who she is, but I must have wronged her in another life...
But, if you have any questions please don't hesitate to come to the source. I love to talk and I am more than willing to discuss anything.
I tried to contact a
[email protected]...whom I believe to be Chris, but the email I sent him was returned undeliverable. Here is what it read:
> I had her evaluated when I first got her and was told she was a young he...no biggie really, as I didn't spend much on her (Whereas I spent about $350 or so for the male) - then I had someone else look at the pics I took - she thinks it's a female. So, 2 against 1 and female wins out.

) I sincerely apologize for thinking that she might be a male. She still has that stubborn nose rub though...guess she prefers what's outside of tank to what's within.

) She has put on weight though and is looking much better. I think frillies are the neatest! But, no matter how I rearrange my reptile room, there is just no room for the size of breeding cage they would need. I had not known just what I would be getting into with them. But, hopefully they will find a good home with someone who has the room and experience with frillies.
Ok, in case someone didn't catch it the first few times...(apparently some did not the first time) Chris - I do so humbly apologize for taking the first opinion of the frillie being a boy. I now understand that she is a she and I am sorry for any upset this might have caused.
On a side note, the male/female issue was only a small portion of my disappointment. All I said previously is that I was disappointed she was not an adult (as she is not 9" stv, she is not an adult yet) and that she was so thin. What is wrong with that? Both were true and obvious. I was not angry and did not say angry, hurtful things. I also did not post her as an adult...I posted her as a sub adult, as that is what I believe her to be.
If you believe I have done something wrong here, please email me and make me aware of it. Or post it here (I was told of this thread or would not even know it existed)...but, as I don't often come here, I may not see what you have written, so then can not ponder the error of my ways. I will truly consider that which you tell me.
Sorry for the long post -
Best wishes to all.