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Having gender issues....

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Hello everyone,

Now, I have been keeping leopard geckos for almost 6 years now. I have been breeding them for 2 years. I know how to tell the males from the females.... or so i thought I guess.....

I keep my males seperate from my females, and only put them together in a neutral place when I want them to breed, and seperate them when the deed is done. One of my groups of females consists of 4. I have had all 4 of these girls kept together for a while now. The particular gecko that will be in question, was a rescue I had gotten from someone who had to move across the country and could not take her. I quarantined her for a few months, and put her with one group of 3 girls (4 now including her) and there they stayed, all happy, and getting along with no problems, for almost 2 years now.

I walked in on this rescued (albino) female on top of one of the other girls. Their tails were entwined and private areas attached, as if they were mating, and she had a hold of the bottom one's neck skin, looked JUST like a male mating with a female. I walked up to the tank going "Oh crap, how did i not see this one is a male after all this time?? i could have SWORN this one is female!" They seperated and took off in both directions quickly so i did not see any hemipenes pulled in by the albino.

So i picked up the albino, flipped it over, and i still think it looks female. No bulges, no pores, no nothing that would tell its a boy. and she is well over a year old, as I have had her for more than 2 and she was full size when i got her.

I guess my question is, has anyone seen this behavior in their females? Could it be a dominance thing? I have never seen a female mount another female in the EXACT way a male does, with the same tail entwining, same *attachment*. and if no, well, here are some pics! can you guys see something I dont?

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Here is a side view.
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I have heard that females incubated at a high temperature, sometimes can become a "hot" female. They will become aggressive in a manner towards other females, and will try to mount and mate with females accordingly. I will leave this open to more experiance keepers, but I have heard of this happening :)
 
raiquee said:
I have heard that females incubated at a high temperature, sometimes can become a "hot" female. They will become aggressive in a manner towards other females, and will try to mount and mate with females accordingly. I will leave this open to more experiance keepers, but I have heard of this happening :)
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Thanks for the reply! :)
I have heard of the "hot" females as well, which is something I have thought of. But I thought that i read it meant they are hard to breed with the males because of aggressiveness towards them? Never read anything about hot females being aggressive towards other females, thats probably what's going on with her. I dunno.... anyhoo, it would almost make sense because the girl I got her from said the breeder told her it was a male. I took one look and said, No this one is female.
 
When my friend and I got two Leos last year, he took what we thought was a male and I got the female, as I was heavy males. He brought him over, due to him losing power (a few months ago) as his place was getting too cold for him. I was checking him out and seeing how he was doing when I realized he was a she and was ovulating. She's now on her third clutch. I had introduced her to the breeding group that her sister is in but she got into a fight with the sister. However she is fine with the male. She is two years old and I've read that hot females can be late bloomer when it comes to breeding, not necessarily that they won't breed.
 
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