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So all of my very first clutch are out of the eggs. I ended up with 3 super pastels, 2 pastels, 2 normal, and one I am not sure on. He/she is lighter than the pastels but not yellow like the supers. The head on the animal is much lighter than the normal but not blushed like the supers. Any ideas?

Pic 1 is just the animal in question by itself.

Pic 2 is he/she with the super pastels.

I probably should have gotten a picture with the mystery animal next to the normals and pastels for reference.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Also for those who didn't see my other post. The sire was a pastel orange ghost and the dam is a pastel het ghost. I for got to include the het ghost in my previous posts.
 
So if I got a ghost out of this clutch, that would mean that the pastel orange ghost would have to be het ghost correct? I added another picture just for comparison.
 

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joshjtd said:
So if I got a ghost out of this clutch, that would mean that the pastel orange ghost would have to be het ghost correct? I added another picture just for comparison.
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The POG is the recessive gene itself, he is not Het. ghost... He is a Ghost.

Since he is the father, all of your babies in this clutch are Het Ghost, Except for the lone ghost you hatched.
 
A Pastel Orange Ghost is homozygous Ghost (not het).
For the baby to be a Ghost (aka Hypo), it means that the Pastel dam must be het Ghost.
The baby inherited one copy, of the Ghost gene, from one parent and the second copy, of the Ghost gene, from the other parent. Making the baby a homozygous Ghost.
 
I am looking at the pics again... the second pic down... the snake in the top right looks to have Hypo in it as well, but I can't be 100% sure thought. Anyone else who has experience with Hypo see anything?
 
With recessive genes ....

Homozygous means that the animal carries two copies of a specific gene and it will show in the animal's phenotype (its physical look). A homozygous animal will pass that gene along 100% of the time to each of its offspring.

Heterozygous means that an animal carries only one copy of a specific gene and it typically does not show in the animal's phenotype. With a het animal, the gene has a 50/50 chance of being passed along to any single offspring.

For each locus, a baby will inherit two genes. One from mom and the second one from dad.
 
Dbz4246 said:
I am looking at the pics again... the second pic down... the snake in the top right looks to have Hypo in it as well, but I can't be 100% sure thought. Anyone else who has experience with Hypo see anything?
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It appears possible. However, as with you, I cannot say so with 100% confidence.

BTW Josh, with the sire being a Pastel (homozygous) Orange Ghost, it means that all of his non Ghost progeny are het Ghost.
 
joshjtd said:
I guess I got confused as I didn't know that ghost and orange ghost are one in the same. Still learning :)
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Yup, when "het ghost" is said, the orange line is implied. But there are other lines as well, for example butterscotch ghost, yellow ghost, and green ghost to name some. But not all lines of ghost are compatible with each other. Hypo is also the same as ghost.

Also if you hear "desert ghost" make sure it's clarified which: the single gene recessive Desert Ghost (which is a different morph altogether than ghost/hypo)
Or the desert (Dom) ghost (recessive) combo. Hope this is helping!
 
Cant you look when they shed and tell from the shed skin if they are ghost or not? If it is a clear shed they are visual ghost and if they have color pattern on their shed then they are not visual ghost
 
Thank you all for your help. I am still trying to figure out if I have a super pastel ghost out of that clutch then. Out of the three I have, I would say that two are clearly just super pastels. The one though is either super blushed out or a potential ghost. Anyone with more experience care to lend their opinion?
 
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