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hmmm..snakes & hot dogs..

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I think the sales person at the pet store is on crack too...she said u can also feed your snake HOT DOGS! huh???? LOL Has anyone heard of such a thing??? My God, what is wrong with ppl..it's not the same as throwing your dog a bone! Ok, yea well i guess kinda it IS..since u're throwin your snake a mouse but...hot dogs?
 
Just think of a hot dog as protein in a nonfurry skin. :)

Actually, it is possible. That's just about what the T Rex Snake Sausages are. However, from the hard time I've had trying to get ball pythons to take dead mice, I'd expect them to turn down a hot dog. A bullsnake or corn snake would take a hot dog more readily. I also think that hot dogs would be nutrionally inferior to a mouse.
 
The only thing that

i could see possibly a problem with a hot dog is the calcium of no bone intake and i would assume some nutritional value of the fur. Of course one could use supplememts going this way.
 
Ya'll are all incorrect. Carnivorous snakes are required to eat warm-blooded prey items consisting of mice, rats, guinea pigs, rabbits, pigs, goats, etc. They cannot digest the ridiculous Snake Sausages and they CANNOT digest hot dogs. Ever see a dog get sick after eating a hot dog? I have, and it's not pretty. Those can cause some severe gastrointestinal upset, and can result in diarrhea and vomiting. The snake sausages are just a ploy that is used to get people to buy animals from pet stores. They buy the snake thinking they will just have to feed it a "sausage" every week or so, and then wonder why the snake never eats and dies...

If you can't properly care for the animal and handle the animal's current diet, then don't try to change the animal to suit your needs. People can just be ridiculous sometimes. Kind of like people trying to feed their carnivorous dogs and cats a vegetarian diet... Not going to happen. I am a veterinary technician and I know what happens when animals are fed the incorrect diet. It's not a good outcome for the animal or the owner who has to pay for the vet bill.
 
hmmmm. do I sense some hostility? time to play, then.
SatanicIntention said:
Carnivorous snakes are required to eat warm-blooded prey items consisting of mice, rats, guinea pigs, rabbits, pigs, goats, etc.
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What do the non-carnivorous snakes eat?? And what of the many snakes that include coldblooded prey items in their diet?
SatanicIntention said:
They cannot digest the ridiculous Snake Sausages and they CANNOT digest hot dogs.
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there have been snakes that have managed to eat & digest the snake sausages. I've seen them do it. and cleaned up after they were duely processed. I can't speak for the longevity of the snakes, or if there are any negative effects from long term use, though.
SatanicIntention said:
Ever see a dog get sick after eating a hot dog? I have, and it's not pretty.
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I've seen dogs get sick without eating hot dogs, and let me tell you - that isn't pretty either.
SatanicIntention said:
Those can cause some severe gastrointestinal upset, and can result in diarrhea and vomiting.
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I've seen them have that effect on people
SatanicIntention said:
If you can't properly care for the animal and handle the animal's current diet, then don't try to change the animal to suit your needs.
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What if the animal's current diet is not the best one for it? or it is eating something that you do not have ready access to? Are you saying that I shouldn't buy a burm that is eating chicks/chicken, if I intend to switch it to rats?
SatanicIntention said:
People can just be ridiculous sometimes.
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hmmm. yes, that one is true
 
a brown tree snake might eat it!

In the book "Out of Eden : An Odyssey of Ecological Invasion" by Alan Burdick, the author mentions that among a long list of other things the stomach contents of Brown Tree Snakes on Gaum included raw hamburger, empty styrofoam plates that had previously held hamburger and other meat products, and used tampons. So at least in this one case a hotdog would not be that much of a stretch. Not that I am suggesting anyone offer any of the above to their pets.
 
SatanicIntention said:
Ya'll are all incorrect. Carnivorous snakes are required to eat warm-blooded prey items consisting of mice, rats, guinea pigs, rabbits, pigs, goats, etc.
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I believe, actually I know, YOU are incorrect. Not to say that I believe a hot dog would benefit the snakes nutrition tremendously. I believe they would have plenty of meat protiens in them, and digest them just fine. Hot dogs come from warm blooded animals, do they not? And to say they cannot digest anything else is totally incorrect. Kingsnakes, Cobras, and many others are known to be not only carnivorous, but canibalistic as well. Feeding on other snakes as well as lizards and other reptiles. Many kinds snakes feed on lizards as there meals for the first year or longer. Maybe not their only prey item, but very, very, common. Garter snakes feed primarily on amphibians and fish. Do all these species NOT digest this food they injest naturally?

I am glad you are a vet tech, it is a noble trade. But you have a lot to learn still, and shoould do so before telling everyone they are wrong.

Just My humble oppinion.

Rick
 
Prevailing opinions aside, it is ignorant to tell a prospective snake owner that they can rely on feeding a snake hotdogs as a staple diet. Hotdogs are not balanced. Certainly they do contain anatomical items that most of us would not eat if recognizable, but they do not contain WHOLE animals. Hairless/featherless, bloodless, boneless and gutless. And, they do contain aritificial colorings and preservatives.

Personally, I'll not be offering any to mine.

I used to toss the used tampons in the outside trash when I still had my water monitor. She was allowed liberty in the house and I just knew she'd dig them out of the bathroom trash.
 
I believe I read somewhere that feeding hot dogs was more intended for snakes who had gone off feed and were becoming unhealthy.... a hot dog would be pretty easy to push down thier throat.
 
Are you sure they weren't talking about "T-Rex Frozen Reptile Nutrition Series
Snake Steak Sausages" which are hot dog shaped processed food "things" made specifically for snakes. I believe they are just processed mouse/rat parts but look like sausage links for the reptile owners that dislike feeding dead rodents to their snakes. Per T-Rex, this is all your snakes ever needs. Per me, good luck getting a picky eater to eat a snake sausage.

Remember years ago when everyone fed live and if some would have suggested feeding frozen/thawed he would have possibly been considered a lunatic. Maybe in 20 years everyone will be feeding snake sausages and we will gasp when someone still feeds f/t :)

Read about snake sausages here; http://www.t-rexproducts.com/Dynamic/default.htm under T-Rex Frozen Reptile Nutrition Series if you want.
 
I think they were talking about using hot dogs as an easily accessible thing for when your snake is on the verge of death or something and needs food immediatly. Not something meant to be fed repeatedly even to get it a bit healthier though.
 
whole prey

hot dogs are made from animals that small snakes at least would never eat. plus the additives and lack of any good nutrition in the form of bones and prey's last meal are necessary, and that seems to benifit most wild carnivores, not just snakes. Since most snakes weren't hunting domestic cows and pigs in the wild, yeah hotdogs are a pretty stupid idea, unless it's possibly a life saving issue..
I thought that mouse sausages were just whole ground mice and/or rats? I think they are sort of silly and are expensive, but i was under the impression that they could be a decent substitute. Honestly, if you can't get(or feed) your snake whatever prey it needs, you really shouldn't have a snake. but the T-Rex sausages sounds fairly respectable- as long as all the mouse is in it without unhealthy additives, it at least has the nutrients needed. As for the ground up part-i'm curious if it makes a difference. I've heard some places in Europe have banned all prey frozen or live, so some people are forced to feed their snakes the sausages, they have no other options.
 
darkbloodwyvern said:
I've heard some places in Europe have banned all prey frozen or live, so some people are forced to feed their snakes the sausages, they have no other options.
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I knew about the restrictions on live feeders...hadn't heard anything about not being able to use frozen. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
 
So, are these same places in Europe restricting ALL carnivores to vegetarian diets? Dogs, cats? Are the people restricted to vegatarian diets and cloth shoes.
And, from where are these European countries getting the dead rodent ingredients to make sausages with?
The whole idea seems a bit far fetched.
 
ohh wow... on there website, they show an iguana eating one of those snake sausages~!!!
iguanas are vegetarians, and there diet should consist of 80% dark leafy greens,10%fruits, and 10%vegetables....no meat!!!!
 
coolcars011 said:
ohh wow... on there website, they show an iguana eating one of those snake sausages~!!!
iguanas are vegetarians, and there diet should consist of 80% dark leafy greens,10%fruits, and 10%vegetables....no meat!!!!
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I made this same claim in another thread about these sausages. But another poster pointed out that it might not be an iguana, that it is a water dragon. Maybe so. Not a very healthy looking one in this image, IMO.

The one pic with the chameleon looks photo shopped to me.
 
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