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September 13 I received a 16-lot of bearded dragons. Since the first day, one seemed to be very dehydrated. I spent 3 days trying to nurse the little one back to health and it passed away. I figured that it was because they were so young and he was just dehydrated. I marked it up to shipping.

Since then, three more babies have died. That's 1/4 of the animals. I keep them in 10-gallon tanks (it was 5 in one, 5 in another, and 6 in the last.) Now there is four in each one. The 3 that have died since the first little dehydrated one have been normal. Alert, healthy, eating... Then one day they don't seem to be eating as much, then they just pass away. They are plump and healthy-looking, then just cease to exist anymore.

My basking temperatures are between 98(coolest spot) and 112(hottest spot). They are fed crickets 2 times a day, as well as mixed vegetables (romain lettuce, mustard greens, apple). I mist them between 2 and 3 times a day. Once in the morning whenever the lights are first turned on and once 45 minutes before lights out.

Knowing that, what should I do? I've emailed the breeder (whom will remain nameless for now). I've explained all of this to her. The reason I did email her is because One died lastnight, and I found another dead this morning. So lastnight she got a rather lengthy email. This morning I just said "Let's update that number to 4. One died this morning". I'm really getting quite upset. I had been planning on raising most of them to keep and maybe start breeding Beardies again.

That's another point. I've bred beardies before. I've kept hatchlings. It's not like I just jumped in head first without knowing what to do.

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sounds like there was an underlying problem

I agree completely, if that many have died already. . .dehydration probably isn't your main problem seeing as you mist them regularly. How active are they? If i had to guess i would say a parasite is your problem. I would contact a herp vet to see if he/she has any ideas. Hope this helps and hopefully you get some better advice.
 
So the breeder just emailed me back. After a few back and forth she said that if I pay shipping, she would refund me the money back for the ones I send her.. Excluding the 4 that have died, I'm guessing. And excluding the two that I have in my freezer. I would think that was fair if I were the reason that they died and that I didn't battle with them to try to keep them alive. I honestly don't think that is fair, what do you guys think? :hot:
 
Well, not to be nit picky (this is not why I think they died, I'm sorry you are having such trouble) but get rid of the apple and romaine, and give them maybe collard greens and green beans, or dandelion greens... also bell pepper, acorn and butter squash are great... and rasp/black/strawberries are all things they enjoy...
On to their passing. You should definately take in a fresh fecal to a herp vet (get the poop and take in within 20 minutes so it stays fresh so they can see any little critters that might be in there). Was there anything like a garuntee on them health wise? Or did you buy them from her and she didn't give anything like that (like, if within a certain amount of time if something happens she will refund you?)
I would get the opinion of a vet before I try to get my refund because, maybe it isn't her fault. I'm just trying to think of what would be the best option...
Also, since you had trouble with the other ones, I would thoroughly clean out the enclosures that had the ones that passed away with a 1 part bleach/10 parts water ratio solution to kill anything that may be in there and do spot cleaning until you solve what is going on...
Just my two cents...
 
I did clean them out earlier this morning. I've just been given the "run-around" before I even had them. I adore these little guys and I hate seeing them die. Their stools seem to be perfect, or as close to what I've seen with all the ones I've had. I don't know, I'm just running out of patience. I absolutely hate getting animals that are sick. I'm too afraid that even if I keep them, to try to sell them later on down the road. I've always been upfront and forthcoming with any information about any of my animals that I have sold. My integrity is all I have in this hobby. So to sell some animals that I don't know whether or not they are 100% healthy would be against everything that I have worked for. I'm really picky about my animals. lol
 
At this point it does not matter what any of us think. If YOU are unhappy with the deal offered or the way things have turned out I would bring this to BOI and name names.Thats what it is there for. I am sure you will get action on your dealings if you do. Who knows, you may not be the only one dealing with the same problem.
 
Are these very young dragons? If they are not old enough to have had their first shed yet that could be part of your problem. The stress and pitfalls that come with shipping very young dragons can set some of them back, even kill them. That could be why you lost four over the last 12 days. Some breeders advertise these young dragons in quantity very cheep, so you can take the risk of wether they will survive. If you are buying young dragons cheep to resale later, well I guess you get what you pay for.
 
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