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Jesse Underhill...another incarnation??

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Okay, here's the deal. I've had my suspicions about this one, and have compiled some pretty compelling circumstantial evidence.

In my opinion, Tony "Jon" Khamjoi is another one of Jesse's pseudonyms. The email address for this one is [email protected], and here's why I have my suspicions...

1) The writing styles are remarkably similar between Jesse and Tony.

2) Tony also claims to be working with various high-end morphs, just like Jesse did.

3) The vast majority of Tony's pics are fuzzy webcam captures. This is a typical representative
here_is_what_I_first_saw.jpg


4) Pay close attention here...When we get into the pictures of "his" morphs, the clarity increases dramatically. Also note that the picture is cropped (removing other's copyrights is something for which Jesse was famous for).
here_is_one_of_the_ten_albino.jpg


5) Sticking with the albino for a moment, here's the post that accompanied that pic
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">one of my 100% het sharp strain boa's had babies
on 6/4/01 all 38 of them 10 of them are albino's (
I'm keeping everyone of them)But She had all live
babies with no slug.All are doing great all are drinking
and all but 4 have ate a pink rat.they will be
shedding soon But if you want some awesome het boa 100%
het let me know for the price I have on these they
will not last long.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Note that the pictured snake looks an awfully alot like a Kahl strain. Also note that none of the albinos are for sale, only the alleged "hets"

6) Going with another post of his...
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My 9 foot hypo/66%poss for anery boa had 54
babies and 3 slugs this morning i was at work and came
home for lunch and had to go pass the snake room and
the smell of babies was in the air.She was bred in
august and I thougth she would drop them in the next
couple of weeks but I was wrong.She was breed to a anery
male.There 16 anery in the group and alot of other really
kill looking babies.Jon</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Interesting how no hypos or ghosts were produced, isn't it?

7) Here's another one that aroused some suspicion...
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have added 30 more cages to my room.I have one
gravid albino boa.and 2 gravid surinam boas 8 to 10 '
and 1 peruvian boa gravid she is 6 1/2 '.My hypo and
anery are breeding now and my monstor tail boas are
just alittle over 4 foot and my pair of white boas are
about 3 foot.I have 3 gravid columbian boas too now
they just shed yesterday so in 105 day give or take
I'll have babies.from the middle of April to the end
of june.All my boas are from jeff ronnie the
boaphile.I have 73 boas from babies to adults I am holding
for breeding .I'm getting a good digital camrea so i
can take good pictures of them to post.I'm hoping
someday I can just do the reptile thing.but till then
I'll have to keep pounding nails hehe jon</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Notice that his boas allegedly came from the Boaphile? I queried Jeff about this, and Jeff has stated that he has never heard of him, nor has Tony aka Jon bought snakes from him.

8) This person's name was given by Jesse as one of his "references" on the old BOI.

Yes, it's all circumstantial, but it is pretty compelling.
 
Sure sounds like him to me. Jesse always brags TOO much, that is what got him in trouble in the first thread, where he said " I'm a big time boa breeder" and R.L. called him on it.
 
Also note the substrate that the albino is on. In all of his webcam pics, the snakes are kept on newspaper, but the crisp, cropped pic has a mulch substrate.

IMO, there are too many similarities to chalk it all up to just being coincidence.
 
Good Job Ken.

Only if there was a way for you to get the IP number on that guy....because we know Jesse's IP and we know jesse's IP for his laptop...
 
Here is an old quote from one of Jesse's posts from a long time ago....It was on the old x3 boi....I quoted it on the old x2 boi.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"the albino is from pete I got from Jon Jones a local guy here I have the papers here his e mail is [email protected]"
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
 
I've been reading these Jesse Underhill posts for a while now,I find them entertaining and informative.
One thing that I noticed in this post he spelled Jeff Ronne wrong, he spelled it Jeff Ronnie!
I'm almost positive that in a Jon and Katie Larson post he spelled Ronne the same as in this post - Ronnie!
 
Nicole, they were posts made to various Yahoo groups within the past two years.

Since I also moderate two groups on Yahoo that he's a member of, I was hoping that I would've been able to come up with an IP address, but both are set to allow members to hide their IP.
 
hm....I'd send an email to Yahoo and tell them you have a fraudulant seller that you're trying to track down...they might help
 
It's definately Jesse/Jon Larson/Tony/etc  style

The emails are just too close to be coincidental.  Jesse has always claimed that his boas are from Jeff "Ronnie", and Jeff has never sold a single boa to this crook.  He and his aliases are the only ones I have EVER seen spell Jeffs last name incorrectly everytime.

All pictures of "his" animals are taken with crappy webcam, and all of his pictures NEVER show the animals he claims to have had.  Especially when they are picture of Het to het breedings. He has NEVER produced a single picture of babies with anything other than NORMAL babies.  He also always claims that he is getting a digital camera for himself, but yet  when he does produce pictures of an albino, the pictures are obviously of great quality camera (and obviously someone elses pictures), because we know he only has a webcam and as he stated in his email he is "planning" on getting a digital camera. So where do the GOOD photos come from? And the pictures he uses are cropped and chopped to hide whatever logos or other identifing marks are being used.

Here is my webpage dedicated to Jesse if you are interested in reading more on him.
Jesse Underhill Page
 
Just a little note to everyone.....
The larsons aka Underhill has gotten a new camera.  It is a little better quality...So watch out people.

When Jesse makes a come back it will be a little harder to trace him because his pictures are going to be a little better.
Also
He has two computers ....one lap top and one desk top.
both have different IP numbers.  But they are still almost the same

But one thing is for sure...He spells Ronnie wrong everytime.
and instead of saying "well"...he spells it "will"

You know what...nevermind.....it is still going to be to easy to track him down

Clay keep those IP numbers I e-mailed to you handy.
My hard drive crashed again and this time it is forever....I will have to buy a new one....If you can..kindly e-mail both of them to me...

anyway gotta get off before I get caught typing instead of working.
 
Ken,

Ask him to send you a photo of his NEW 30 cages he added to his room.

Then compare it with Jeff Ronne's Video...  Jesse has already used Jeff's video to post pictures of "how he set up his racks" before.  There is a link on Jeff's site to this as well.
Jesse's Page on The boaphile's site
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From:  
Tony Khamjoi  [email protected]
To:  
Daniel Wagoner
Date:  
Friday - August 16, 2002 12<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1 PM

Subject:  
Re: Board of Inquiry
      
Dan,
I have no clue who this people are nor this jesse guy
.I would like to know who's photo they are posting
saying they are mine when I don't have photos of any
of my snakes.They are normal ball pythons females plus
a couple of other balls I picked up from other people
around here.I don't have a web cam I use my parents
digital camera.I live with 3 other guys none of them
are the people they listed on the board.By the looks
of the BOARD alot of people have nothing better to do
then talk crap and falsely accuse people they don't
even know.How would you go about clearing my name from
this? I have seen this Ritchie guy post alot about
people I want him to pay for talking about me like
this.  Tony I was sending out a money order today for
you.

</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

The funny thing is.......I never say anything much about Jon Jones or Tony Khamjoi.....
I did say a lot about Jesse Underhill.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have seen this Ritchie guy post alot about
people I want him to pay for talking about me like
this</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>  Let me repeat myself......I was talking about Jesse and never really mention too much about Jon Jones or Tony Khamjoi.  sounds to me like a freudian slip !


Here is an old quote from Jesse
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"the albino is from pete I got from Jon Jones a local guy here I have the papers here his e mail is [email protected]"
So Jesse gets a snake from Jon......But Jon has never heard of Jesse.
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Hey moderator 01 or webslave.....can you post for us the IP number of Tony khamjoi...Also tell us if it is the same as Boababe's or Jon and kate Larson or JJUnder.  I will bet my left nut it is the same as one of those two people.

I betted my left nut that Boababes IP number was the same as the larsons and I was right.....Now I will bet my left nut AGAIN !!!!
 
it's that time of year again

No news, just wanted anyone new to this site to be aware of this guy. Gone??? Not forgotten!!! If anyone is interested, (and has lots of time)there are several more threads on this guy
 
It's Definitely Jesse!

Unbelieveable!!! This guy has more lives then Freddie Kruger!! IMHO it's Jesse. His writing style, grammer and spelling are a dead giveaway. And anyone that knows Jeff Ronne or have watched any of his videos can pick up the fact that Jesse writes just like Jeff talks! For example, Tony, Jon or Jesse was quoted
"I'm hoping someday I can do the reptile thing. but till then I'll have to keep pounding nails."

One thing for sure is that he is Relentless!!!
 
Okay, I guess the link did work, but I don't know how long it will be up so I moved the pics to my new website.

Jesse's pics

It's amazing though. Nothing new for this many months - has to be a record.
 
Well well well, once again when breeding season is here Jesse shows up again. Having found this place on the net a while back because of Jesse, I can't believe he is still trying to pull this same old scam.. Ken,Ritchie,and Clay there is a way to find out his ip on the Yahoo groups even if it is hidden. One of you please e mail me which group he is in and let me have my guy go to work in cracking it.

From what I can see so far the writing styles and misspellings are a Jesse trademark. I was unable to view the pics but from what I gather from other members it is another Jesse trademark. So he acually got another better camera? Still he should be easy to bust once again. One question though, would it be possible to have this guy put away on Federal Fraud charges. He has used the mail to recieve money's for animals which were misrepresented,and that according to title 18 law is mail fraud. Couldn't this be brought against him so we could have about 5-15 years without him mucking up our hobby?
 
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