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Leo gecko deformation?

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I just had two more baby leo geckos hatch last night but when they came out i noticed they looked different and i noticed that one has an eye that is smaller then normal and the other one has real loose skin under its jaw and its not from dehydration. How should i go about this b/c they both appear to be strong and healthy? I'm thinking this might have to do with too much temp flunctuation in my incubator but im not sure and im positive the breeders that produced the babies arent related.
Eric
 
I've seen the loose skin on a few babies who have hatched a bit prematurely. It usually tightens up as they grow although some may retain a wrinkle or two on the chin.

Lots of theories have been floated on here to account for eye defects including genetic, nutritional shortfalls, and temperature fluctuations. I've had quite a few eye defects this year from unrelated breeders, many of whom have been breeding for several years with nothing but healthy babies. I'm pinning the blame on teperature fluctuations and some nutritional need that's not being met since I switched them over to mealworms.

Babies with eye malformations should not be bred. In severe cases where they baby is missing eyelids entirely etc, I feel euthanaisa is the most humane option. If the defect is such that it does not impact the quality of life, I choose to raise them up and adopt them out as "pet only" leos.

-Alice
 
thanks for all the advice, so even though they arent from inbreeding you wouldnt suggest breeding them? thanks for all the advice btw my camera is messed up right now so i cant take pics.
Eric
 
There's no way to be 100% sure that it isn't genetic. Even if it's not inherited from the parents, it could be the product of something like a mutation in the developing embryo caused by swings in temperature etc. If this was the case, it could potentially be passed on.

It could also be polygenetic, the leo has to get multiple defective genes from each parent in order to manifest itself. Since all the morphs share a common ancestry, (take blizzard for example), all are somewhat related. So, even if you got blizzards from two different breeders the lizards would share a common ancestry, therefore, making it more likely that they would be carrying genes for the same defects. This happened with the patternless morph and kinked tails. Because kinks have become so firmly entrenched in the morph due to indiscriminate breeding, you need to be very careful about selecting your breeders and screening their offspring.

With all the "perfect" leos out there, there really is no need to breed leos with defects and exacerbate the chances of bad genes getting more firmly entrenched in the captive population than they already are. So, I don't think the leo with the eye defect should be bred. If the loose skin on the neck of the clutchmate disappears with age so that he looks normal, I'd have no problem breeding him.

-Alice
 
alright thank you, i'll probably just keep the eye defect one as a pet. my mom already named him blinky lmao. thanks for the advice
Eric
 
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