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Lowest incubation temps

I would think 72 would be as low as you can go but I have never gone below 78 or even 80 degrees for that matter.
 
He said "safe" I said I would not go below 78. When I said 72, I figured it is pretty low and when you dip into the high 60's most tropical reptiles don't do well at those temp sfor prolonged periods of time not to meniton that the eggs would be at that temp for probably 100+ days. What do you think the lowest temp is?
 
Mark and Aimee said:
So... what makes you think 72 is the lowest you can go? :shrug01:
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Due to a faulty thermometer I had eggs incubate at approx. 74 degrees. they hatched, but it took 82 days. I discovered the bad thermometer after about 2 weeks, but wanted to see what would happen so I let them incubate at the lower temp to see how long it would take. Both eggs hatched and the geckos were fine, needless to say they were both females.... :)
 
yeah every once in a while when we get a *cold front* my incubators like for my females will go down to 76-74 but breifly.... i would not go ANY lower than that...

He said "safe" I said I would not go below 78. When I said 72, I figured it is pretty low and when you dip into the high 60's most tropical reptiles don't do well at those temp sfor prolonged periods of time not to meniton that the eggs would be at that temp for probably 100+ days. What do you think the lowest temp is?
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these are not tropical animals they come from rocky desert like areas, very rough and rugged area with sparse to medium amounts of trees and shrubery. most likely the animals in most of those areas arent even breeding right now and are still in brumation. the outside temps in those area right now are very similar to texas... some cooler spots 50's and some warmer up into the 70's
 
Makes me feel better. I have mine set to maintain 80 but with some of these freeezing nights I go down and check and it is at 76.....It has never dropped below that but I know these first few clutches are going tot ake forever to hatch! . But they will be females!
 
Thanks Robin

robin s. said:
yeah every once in a while when we get a *cold front* my incubators like for my females will go down to 76-74 but breifly.... i would not go ANY lower than that...


these are not tropical animals they come from rocky desert like areas, very rough and rugged area with sparse to medium amounts of trees and shrubery. most likely the animals in most of those areas arent even breeding right now and are still in brumation. the outside temps in those area right now are very similar to texas... some cooler spots 50's and some warmer up into the 70's
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:) your the best!
 
Gecko_Den said:
Due to a faulty thermometer I had eggs incubate at approx. 74 degrees. they hatched, but it took 82 days. I discovered the bad thermometer after about 2 weeks, but wanted to see what would happen so I let them incubate at the lower temp to see how long it would take. Both eggs hatched and the geckos were fine, needless to say they were both females.... :)
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I had the same problem last year. I was stupid and relied on the thermometer that came with my incubator to tell the temps inside, well surprise..surprise, the thermometer was wrong. The temps in my incubator were at least 6-8 degrees off. I thought I was going to get a bunch of males, but alas all of them were females except 1.

I can't wait to get my new Temp Gun!
 
Those of you who are experiencing a temperature drop in your incubators on cold evenings... Are you using hovabators, or other incubators with a similar thermostat?

I've been incubating all our gecko eggs in the freezer portion of our fridge/freezer incubator this year, and I have had no more than 1 degree of temperature variance regardless of room temperatures (low of 65, high of 80).

I'm convinced that hovabators are worthless for anything you need a constant temperature for.
 
When I incubate for female, I don't keep the eggs in my Hovabator because my room is usually 80-82 degrees during the day and gets to 77-79 at night. However, I used to keep a few eggs in my brother's room too, and they were able to deal with night time drops down to the low 70s and high 60s. They hatched at an average of 65-70 days. I do have to emphasize that it was only as a night time drop. Last winter when the thermostat to our house broke, temps stayed that cool for several days. This led to a few stillborns and some very delayed hatchings. One female took over 90 days.
 
one question, I was going to get a hovabator, but i feel that my reptile room stays at a nice temp (80-90 degrees), so i was just going to put them in that room and possibly get one of those thermostats to control the radiator heater. I just did not know if this is a good idea, or do i still need to get a incubator?

Also, in the summer when temps are high, do you all cool your house's down to achive the proper incubation temps?
 
I read in many sites that if the eggs move out of a constant temp range from 2-3 degrees, hten you will get deformed babies and hot and cold leo's.

I had no idea you could dip as low at 75. Why would you want to do that anyway! At 80, you are sure to get female, have less spots and they will hatch faster. Makes no since to go lower, you should see how high you cna go, like 92. :scatter:
 
Hovabators are great for egg incubation. I used them for many years. The key is a good thermostat. I recommend a Helix.
 
in the summer time we use a window ac to cool the room.... i use hobovators and they work great but like kelli said with a proportioal thermostat like a helix. and if you live in a house that remains relitively constant like 78 just put them on a shelf!!... 92 for males is entireely too high and will result in egg death... most times anything over 90 will.
 
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