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Mack Snow prices already dropping

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This guy's advertising Mack Snow x RW albino and MS x Double Het PA for $750-950.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=10&de=314439

This is great, but I wonder if this guy is an 'approved' seller :raspberry :rofl:

Really, I agree with the posts the other day. This is probably one of the best things to happen to Leos since I got into them. Well, the first Albinos were a big thing...and so were the Hine-line Hypos, and the Blizzards, and a few others, but this is the biggest. I can't wait til next year to see what these snow albinos and such will look like.


Oh wait, I just found this one, as well - $1650 for a pair

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=10&de=314218
 
I saw both of those today... I dont think the people Mack sold to before Alex were asked a price to sell at.

Interesting though, I'd like some to play with. I would rather invest my money in Aussie geckos who will hold their value more so than leos.
 
High end geckos have a very limited customer base. With something like a co-dom snow, most of the individuals in that bracket aren't going to need more than one or two to start with. If they breed their co-dom, with a ton of females they're going to have ton of co-doms. This year a lot will be held back, I imagine, to produce supers. Once people start working with the supers and producing 100% co-doms, they're going to have to drop the prices to move them or limit production to keep prices up.

Like I've said before, I think that the mack snow gene has loads of potential. It will be the cutting edge mack morphs, however, that will maintain their high values, not the run of the mill co-doms and supers.

When supers hit $300, I may even jump in :dgrin:

-Alice
 
MatthewK said:
I saw both of those today... I dont think the people Mack sold to before Alex were asked a price to sell at.

Interesting though, I'd like some to play with. I would rather invest my money in Aussie geckos who will hold their value more so than leos.
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It is my understanding that only Albey and Steve of geckosetc bought from Mack before Alex....
 
I saw the pair, but not the other add. I just tried to view it and it looks like it was swiftly removed, or the link was wrong.

BTW, told you there was no price fixing :p

Anyone can choose to sell them for what they feel they are worth, there are no conspiracies. I'd like to see those who said so publicly eat some "humble pie"

I'll anxiously await this :)

Nice to see more macks popping up here and there :)
 
TopShelfExotics said:
I saw the pair, but not the other add. I just tried to view it and it looks like it was swiftly removed, or the link was wrong.

BTW, told you there was no price fixing :p

Anyone can choose to sell them for what they feel they are worth, there are no conspiracies. I'd like to see those who said so publicly eat some "humble pie"

I'll anxiously await this :)

Nice to see more macks popping up here and there :)
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Actually there was another thread about someone selling some of them, and it seemed he caught some flack for "selling them to early", so to speak. If my memory serves correctly, Alex even lumped him into a certain catagory (unethical? I forget)with another who has mack's. Maybe I took his comments wrong, anyway, even though there may be no actual conspiracy, seems that there is a lot of cr@p given. Wouldn't surprise me if that was a factor in the pulling of the ad, if it was indeed pulled. I wasn't one of the conspiracy theorists, but like many in the other recent thread feel this is getting old, and there does seem to be a jumping on mentality. At any rate IMHO only, still seems a little early to expect eating of any kind of pie, given it hasn't been that long since the posting of "ugly" threads.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if the reason the ad was pulled is because the geckos sold immediately and the poor guy was still being flooded with emails from other hopeful buyers.
 
The co doms really dont look like anything. This isnt unlike the regular comment I usually make but bare with me. They seem to look like high yellows, is anyone worried about counterfeit co-dom macks? is there something specific to look for in a co-dom mack snow?
 
TopShelfExotics said:
I saw the pair, but not the other add. I just tried to view it and it looks like it was swiftly removed, or the link was wrong.

BTW, told you there was no price fixing :p

Anyone can choose to sell them for what they feel they are worth, there are no conspiracies. I'd like to see those who said so publicly eat some "humble pie"

I'll anxiously await this :)

Nice to see more macks popping up here and there :)
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I'm with John on this one. There was a very specific accusation directed towards Jodi and Alex in that recent thread which was never addressed, as far as I remember. Were these guys who are now selling a part of the group that bought from Alex? If not, then this has nothing to do with the previous 'price fixing' accusations, since these guys weren't part of that Group of Eight, or Ten, or whatever it was.
 
maybe its a ploy , to make sure more price fixing accusations aren't brought up ? Has anyone heard of razor back reptiles before this? Maybe its someone who doent want others to know they have macks.
 
That is ridiculous. I know Stan or "from the gecko" very well. Give it a rest, there are websites for you to post on if you are into conspiracy theories. Stan could care what everyone else sells their animals for. He will sell and price his as he sees fit! The story on razorback reptiles has been known for a few weeks now.
 
Good lord these mack snow threads are just getting rediculous... If you all know notice I avoid posting on them as much as possible, although I have kept myself current on the activity of these threads.

All we're doing is making sure that the reptile industry is never truely accepted. We should be spending our time working with our animals and a little less time wondering what everyone else is doing... or how about a "Leopard Gecko Industry Advancement Association" would could help educate the country? Surely that would have to be a better investment of time then complaining or guessing or accusing or continuing to shoot ourselves in both feet. And yet we wonder why people from other forums think we're all a clique.

People need to stop taking everything personally, stop contributing only negative comments, and start to focus on what we can do with the animals we've all come to love so much. Or maybe that is lost upon some of us? Stop this internal bickering, we've already broken enough friendships and business relationships. We've also lost people from this forum that I consider to be valuable due to this subject, how much more do we have to hurt ourselves before we get over it? The past is done and gone and there's nothing that anyone can do about it now.

I urge all of you: take the high road, stop all this BS, and let's get back to doing what we love: working with Leopard Geckos.

This will be my first and last post regarding the negativity surrounding this subject. Hopefully I can help lead by example and you all will do the same.

Edit: After thinking about it some, this isn't really the thread that started my line of thought, so this isn't really the best place for it (we all know which thread would be), but I'm leaving it here for now. I just thought I'd mention that before someone tells me this thread isn't that bad.
 
Ditto!

I actually called Stan yesterday. Although I have never met him or heard of him he seemed to be on the up and up. He stated what he would have available and where he got his animals from. Might be working out a payment plan with him for a snow!
 
Vince said:
The co doms really dont look like anything. This isnt unlike the regular comment I usually make but bare with me. They seem to look like high yellows, is anyone worried about counterfeit co-dom macks?
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Of course scammers are going to try to sell counterfeit co-com mack snows, fake hets being an old old game in the herp world. You have to trust your source if you're buying hets.

Vince said:
is there something specific to look for in a co-dom mack snow?
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I believe it poops gold nuggets.
 
Blazin said:
I actually called Stan yesterday. Although I have never met him or heard of him he seemed to be on the up and up. He stated what he would have available and where he got his animals from. Might be working out a payment plan with him for a snow!
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That's cool, Chad. Let us know how it turns out and post pics when you get them.
 
leaftail said:
Of course scammers are going to try to sell counterfeit co-com mack snows, fake hets being an old old game in the herp world. You have to trust your source if you're buying hets.

I believe it poops gold nuggets.
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I'm sure you're right and someone will try to pass off fake ones. Hopefully prospective customers demand to see pics of the parents as well as baby pics. From the pics of babies everyone has shown on here, they definitely look different. Luckily, with these, are there any real hets that look normal? I know the snows look somewhat normal as they age, but don't they all hatch pretty much black and white?

I read on an earlier thread that someone let the cat out of the bag on the golden nugget-pooping geckos...they're really rare and only a handful of select breeders have them...perhaps I'm one of them. Don't dare talk smack about them or I will smash your rep.
 
My neighbor is in the actual gold bar production phase right now . . .
 

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