I figured this should be posted in the proper location when people search for info on him.
I have been waiting a year for Mike to make "good" on two animals that I bought from him. They both died a month after they were purchased. After being ignored for months by him....It took threatening him that I was going to go here and air how crappy his service has been to get a response. So, now that he is in jail. I am making a good assumption that I will be out for my 450.00.
Hopefully when he gets out my e-mail will warn others when he gets back into the buisness of selling animals. I will be sure to make it known how bad he is to purchase from. He is one of those sellers when things are good he will respond back to you. When things go bad. He will ignore you till he is put in a position where him actions will be put out for all to see.
Here are all our e-mails.
>----- Original Message -----
>From:
[email protected]
>To:
[email protected]
>Subject: Message from JohnLokken about Lets see your boas......
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:38:45 -0500 (CDT)
>
> >
> > Both mine died a month after I got from you. Not too happy about that. I figured I'd e-mail my response instead of posting it for all to see.
> > John
> >
> > This message was sent to you by the user: JohnLokken
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http://forums.kingsnake.com >From: "Michael Barrera" <
[email protected]>
>To:
[email protected]
>Subject: Re: Message from JohnLokken about Lets see your boas......
>Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:42:12 -0500
>
>No way???!!! Why didnt you contact me? I would have done something to help you out. Thats a shame, do you know what happened?
>Mike
I figured I was screwed past a month of ownership. It was the female that had whatever she had. She went fast. The male went through exactly the same thing she did quickly after her. I figured it was because they were bagged together. Or, because they came together from the same farm. All I know is........I have two frozen babies in the freezer and I'm out 450.00 bucks. I toy around with the idea of getting them checked out by a vet. But, they're dead. Spending anymore money isn't going to bring them back. I'm just glad I quarantined them from my other snakes. Sorry to sound totally jaded.........But, I'm just not too happy about losing two great looking animals and then 450.00 on top of that. I now have two frozen snakes that I bought for a lot of money. Mostly I am just kicking myself. I knew to never buy farmed animals. I spent 450.00 to remember that.
John
>From: "Michael Barrera" <
[email protected]>
This message was e-mailed to him in April 2005.
All I want is to have this resolved. And, if you would have e-mailed me back when I e-mail you...It would not have escalated to this level. I expect a lot from a seller. I give a lot as a lot as a seller myself.
The whole mite issue.....Let's not get too deep into this. I know they came from your animals. You may "fall on your sword" saying otherwise. But, being a VERY anal keeper.........I know where the mites came from. There is NO other place they could have came from.
I appreciate the fact that you will look at my e-mails first. I guess if that is the best you can do for me.........That will have to do. Right now I expect a miracle from you to make me feel somewhat ok about this whole "transaction". Again, I am feeling that I have in no way been treated like a valued customer. And, when we are done her...........We are done.
The fact that you are offering this deal a month after the fact is a good thing. My downfall was not getting to you sooner. I will take some blame for that. I had too much going on at the time.
Again, I just want this issue resolved. I want something for the 400.00+ dollars that I gave you. The fact that you are following this through is a good thing. It just sucks that it took a "threat" to get a response from you. I hate being that guy. It's not how I like to do business.
Again, let's just take care of this and be done.
John
>From: "Michael Barrera" <
[email protected]>
>To: "John Lokken" <
[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: So, since you can't answer e-mails at all.........Do I need to take this tothe
>Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:36:45 -0500
>
>no sold, i would have you sent that....
>nothing right now.....waiting for shipments to come in....
>mites dont come out of colombia.....only indonesia, and I have never had a mite in my collection, remember alot of these animals were for my possesion.....not to resale, unless they turned out to not match other snakes, or similiar.\
>If I see an email from you on a snake, i will read it first..
>MikeB
>p.s. honestly I did not recieve any emails from you other than one for a boa I was selling.
>I believe you have the wrong impression of me as I offered you that deal and you had never made a claim....I offered you that deal a month or two after the fact, you had never notified me, so I was doing this as show of good faith and what kind of operation I run here.
>I do not screw people.......and I do not liek being pushed to do something non obligatory....it will happen when it happens....i am doing this out of good faith...not to"look" good.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Lokken" <
[email protected]>
>To:
[email protected]
>Subject: Re: So, since you can't answer e-mails at all.........Do I need to take this tothe
>Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:03:18 -0800
>
> >
> > So, it took this to finally get some sort or response from you.
> > It sucks that it took me sending complaints to the BOI and
> > kingsnake to get a response from you. But, better a response
> > finally than none.
> > Why didn't you just let me know that back then until letting it
> > become what it is now? I would have been satisfied with that. I
> > am a patient man. Now I am just ticked off by your "customer
> > service".
> > And, trust me. The mites came from those animals. The last
> > animals I have received were back in 5/21/03. There were no mites
> > here before that.........And, there were no mites after that
> > purchase. There were mites just after I got your animals. I
> > sprayed them as well. It doesn't mean that you have killed
> > everything.
> > They were also not sold before I contacted you. Because a week
> > after my e-mail was sent to you I saw other anerys posted by you.
> > That is what really ticked me off.
> > It is obvious we will never do business with one another again.
> > Let's resolve this issue now and be done with it. If you are not
> > going to issue me my money back let me know what you have. I will
> > see if something interests me. If not, give me a heads up when you
> > are posting animals on the classifieds. I think I deserve a least
> > you going out of your way somewhat to get this resolved.
> > Do you still have that pink surinam for sale? Or, has that sold?
> > John
> >
> >
> > > From: "Michael Barrera" <
[email protected]>
> > > To: "John Lokken" <
[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: So, since you can't answer e-mails at all.........Do
> > > I need to take this to the
> > > Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:20:38 -0500
> > >
> > > they are sold before you contact me.....I have never had
> > > complaints from anyone else.....
> > > you will get hooked up once boas come in....I do not issue
> > > refunds. I have also never had mites here, so I have no clue as
> > > to how you got mites. I have never ever had a mite in my facility.
> > > Everything gets sprayed when bought, and when placed in the faclitly.
> > > Anyways, take t who you want, I will only issue replacement animals.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Lokken" <
[email protected]>
> > > To:
[email protected]
> > > Subject: So, since you can't answer e-mails at all.........Do I
> > > need to take this to the
> > > Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 07:42:09 -0800
> > >
> > > >
> > > > BOI and Kingsnake?
> > > > I really a pretty mellow guy by nature. But, your lack of
> > > > contacting me back is really becoming annoying. I am trying to
> > > > resolve this problem away from the public eye. But, I am beginning
> > > > to think that this might be the only way to have you resolve this
> > > > problem.
> > > > I lost over 400.00 here. You said you would take care of me. And,
> > > > I am using your words. Each time I e-mail you with a possible
> > > > replacement..........I hear nothing.
> > > > The politeness has left for me. I don't want an animal from you
> > > > anymore. Paying me back is seeming better and better each time I
> > > > have to try and deal with you about this. (And, me dealing with
> > > > you is one sided venture.)
> > > > I have to honestly say that I am afraid of your animals. When I
> > > > received the two they had mites and then died shortly after I
> > > > received them. And, to paraphrase you.........Your contact has
> > > > cleaner animals than most keepers. I have not found this to be
> > > > true at all. To think that I might be possibly introducing more
> > > > animals like that into my collection scares the crap out of me. I
> > > > have worked too hard and spent way too much money on my animals to
> > > > have them lost because of unclean animals.
> > > > I spoke with two friends about you before I bought your animals.
> > > > One said that you will never return e-mails or calls if there is
> > > > something wrong. The other said your animals were not clean. I
> > > > should have listened to them. Because I am dealing with exactly
> > > > those two issues with you.
> > > > Unfortunately, I went off what was said about you on the BOI. And,
> > > > it was all pretty positive. I am kicking myself for not listening
> > > > to my friends.
> > > > This was suppose to be resolved in December of 2004. It is now
> > > > April 2005. I have yet to hear from you. If you think I'm just
> > > > going to go away and give you over 400.00 you're crazy.
> > > > Make things right with me. If I don't hear from you in a week from
> > > > this e-mail I will file complaints with kingsnake and I will take
> > > > this to the BOI and keep on until this is resolved.
> > > > Like I said before, I am a really mellow guy. I have tried to be
> > > > very patient with this. My patience is up. I would like this
> > > > issue resolved.
> > > > John Lokken
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > MikeB
> > > M n R-Reptiles
> > > 10121 sw 118 terr
> > > Miami Fl 33176
> > > 786-853-7065
> > > Please make all Money orders and checks payable to Michael Barrera.
> > > Paypal addy:
[email protected]
> > >
>
>
>MikeB
>M n R-Reptiles
>10121 sw 118 terr
>Miami Fl 33176
>786-853-7065
>Please make all Money orders and checks payable to Michael Barrera.
>Paypal addy:
[email protected]
>
>--
no sold, i would have you sent that....
nothing right now.....waiting for shipments to come in....
mites dont come out of colombia.....only indonesia, and I have never had a mite
in my collection, remember alot of these animals were for my possesion.....not
to resale, unless they turned out to not match other snakes, or similiar.\
If I see an email from you on a snake, i will read it first..
MikeB
p.s. honestly I did not recieve any emails from you other than one for a boa I
was selling.
I believe you have the wrong impression of me as I offered you that deal and you
had never made a claim....I offered you that deal a month or two after the fact,
you had never notified me, so I was doing this as show of good faith and what
kind of operation I run here.
I do not screw people.......and I do not liek being pushed to do something non
obligatory....it will happen when it happens....i am doing this out of good
faith...not to"look" good.
