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My New BTS...Amazing Growth Rate!

bennybbc

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I got my new Northern BTS about 10 days ago and he/she
was born 6-25-05. I thought he was pretty big when I
got him at 9 3/4" nose to tail. I measured pretty carefully
and I use a ruler/tape measure for a living, (woodworker)
so I'm sure I got it right. I just measured him again last
night and I'm amazed that he's grown 1 1/4" already! How
can this be??? I read that they grow fast but I never
expected this. He's noticeably larger all over and he eats
very well. I want to be careful not to overfeed but I'm
not sure what that is with a baby BTS. I want him to grow
as much and fast as possible but I don't want him to
become obese either. I've held an obese ball python and
it was pretty obvious. But this guy feels just fine with no
apparent layer of fat. But I don't know if that's a good
indicator or not.

I feed him a mixture of about 60% veggies and 40% meat.
Specifically, I mix frozen mixed veggies, (carrots, green beans
peas, etc.) with some more green beans and a little banana
or whatever fruit I have around together with some cooked
ground turkey breast and some high quality low fat canned
cat food. I also have offered some rose petals. I feed about
2 tablespoons of this a day dusted with a calcium supplement.
I have a vitamin/mineral supplement coming to my house via
the USPS as we speak and I'll add that when it comes. I also
use a UVA/UVB light just in case he needs it. I also have some
canned crickets, meal worms, grasshoppers and snails coming
as well. I have no interest in dealing with the maintenance of
the live versions of these insects and the BTS doesn't really
need them to thrive anyway. But I thought he could benefit
from the variety. This diet is similar to what the breeder I
bought him from feeds her skinks,
http://www.captivebred.com
and he seems to be very healthy and is quite active.

So does this growth rate sound extreme or is this normal
for this type of skink. I know that the Northern is usually
the largest of the skinks with adults at around 24" and the
largest getting up to almost 30", or so I've read. And I don't
suppose they grow for ever so I guess he might be on his
way to becoming a big one.

When I first talked to Donna at Captive Bred she told me
how nice and gentle this particular guy was. When I got him
he was understandably a bit upset. I tried to handle him for
a couple of more days and he was what I would call vicious.
Constant hissing and puffing and frequently trying to turn
around and bite. If he seemed to calm down I'd relax my grip
and he'd struggle and try to bite again. I talked to Donna
and she was perplexed by this. She said she had rarely
experienced this in 10 years of breeding and this was one
of the more tame ones she had. Obviously he didn't like being
shipped and was pretty freaked out by the relocation. She
recommended that I walk around while I hold him to distract
him with constantly changing scenery. I tried that and within
about 20 minutes it was like he was a different skink. It was
like breaking a horse. He might still hiss or huff a little right
before I pick him up but he doesn't try to bite anymore and
he's quite tame and calm withing less than a minute after
picking him up. He likes his head stroked and closes his eyes.
The other day he was on my forearm and I actually put him
to sleep for a few minutes just by petting his head. He kept
his eyes closed for several minutes even after I stopped
petting him. That's nice and tame and just how I want a
2 foot long lizard with strong jaws to be. He likes to crawl
around too and seems pretty curious.

I've owned/own several breeds of snakes so I'm not
new to reptiles but this is my first lizard. My brother kept
his two very large green iguanas at my house for quite a
while but they were a pain to feed and care for. This guy
is so cool and really easy to care for. I highly recommend
a Northern BTS to anyone wanting a beautiful and tame
lizard that is easy to care for and gets pretty large.

Bruce
Redding, California
 
I think it sounds pretty normal..Mine is a year old and just under 20 inches..He grew really fast..I feed him about the same but dont use any cat food he doesnt like it. Although he does like the occasional dry dog food or scrambled egg..They basically look like overstuffed sausages with little tiny legs, so its hard to tell if they get fat.here is a great site for lots of info
http://bluetongueskinks.net/blue.htm
 
Hi Bruce,
I am glad to hear that your BTS is calming down. Did you get F2H? I notice that one sold recently - and it is a nice one. We purchased two northerns from Donna recently and experienced the same scenario. Both were vicious and jumped to bite at anything that came near them. We affectionately called them our "pirranahs". *LOL*

We left them alone for a few days and then began to handle them (with thin leather gloves) and after a while, they got the message that we wouldn't hurt them. While they don't try to bite anymore, they are no where near as tame and calm as our other 27 BT skinks. Some of ours are actually affectionate and love being part of the family.

Yes, we are breeders too, and we handle our babies from the moment they are born so they never fear the human hand. We have had many folks remark at the tameness of our skinks, so it seems that all breeders don't do the same thing with their babies.

Growing fast? Yes, at this age they grow quickly. It sounds like you have a pretty good varied diet going too. During the fall, try some cooked squash with the turkey - ours all love squash. I just cook it in the microwave till tender and mash up (chunky) with the turkey or other meat. Lots of good nutrients in squash... :)

Best of luck with your northern, they are great lizards!
Morgana
Reptayls, Ltd.
 
I must have gotten really lucky, I bought my Northern at a petstore that had a guy who worked for them that had a batch of babies.This blue tongue has been so absolutely friendly from the day I got him, He huffed at first and still does but will climb up on my hand himself(except if hes in a shed then hes cranky and really huffs).He also will come and look out his cage door like he wants to come out on occasion, if I open the door he will come right out...
 
Celia,
It sure sounds like you got very lucky!
We sure know about the begging at the door routine... most of ours learn that trick quickly. Aren't they personable?? Blueys are really quite intelligent too, its fun to give them a challenge to solve.

Good luck,
Morgana
Reptayls, Ltd.
 
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