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name that corn?!?

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Hello all,
I am trying to identify this corn snake I found. I thought it looked pretty normal, but after picking it up, I noticed the belly didn't have the typical black checkered pattern. It has been 15 years since I have kept and bred corns. Is this a specific morph? Also, the lumps could those be eggs? She doesn't seem big enough to be able to reproduce but has 3-4 pretty good size lumps in er bottom third. They could be a few large meals too, what do you think? Thanks for your help IDing her.
 

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Im not too keen on cornsnake morphs myself considering there are so many and new ones seem to pop up everyday but she appears to have a motley pattern and doesn't have a normal corn coloring or belly as far as I can tell. From the looks of her Id say get your incubator cooking! :thumbsup:

Congrats on a cool find!
 
She's not a motley. Have you sexed her to make sure it is a female? That would be the quickest way to maybe rule out eggs. She does look small to be pregnant. You got a weight on her? As for her morph, she kinda reminds me of a hypo, but normals can range soooo much depending on locality, that I'm almost 100% sure she's probably a normal. Pretty snake!

~~Tiffany
 
Carlton or Tiffany?

What make you say it's not a motley??? The motley pattern can very greatly from snake to snake, for instance here is a stripe motley that I had a short while ago & following is another motley, they look pretty similar in pattern to me.
 

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I haven't sexed or weighed her. She seems way too small to be pregnant... The others I catch and release around here look normal with lots of black on the belly and around the saddles. This one has very little to no black around the saddles. I had to hang on to this one to see what it is. Def very pretty. Thanks for the opinions so far. It is fun finding one a little different.
 
Ok, I was unaware of the patternless belly thing, I honestly thought motley was a distinctive pattern like on boas. As far as posting from another users account, that is against the rules of this site, husband, wife, brother, sister, mother, father, business partner doesn't matter it is against site rules. Just an FYI to avoid any problems with the Mods in the future. Every user has to be accountable for what he/she says and it is unacceptable to post under anothers user name. :thumbsup:
 
eggs!

Well it is most definitely a "she"! I woke up this morning to 4 eggs! I couldn't believe she was big enough to produce. I weighed her this morning- post eggs. A whopping 48 grams! She is a little thicker around than a pencil. So, now if anyone else has ideas as to what she might be? A normal with almost no black?
 

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Congrats! Can't wait to see what pops outta those eggs. I had a good feeling she was gravid, I have seen corns before while out field herping that were around her size that were gravid. Who knows maybe you'll stumble upon a new morph to prove out. Keep us posted :thumbsup:
 
SafariPets said:
Hello all,
I am trying to identify this corn snake I found. I thought it looked pretty normal, but after picking it up, I noticed the belly didn't have the typical black checkered pattern. It has been 15 years since I have kept and bred corns. Is this a specific morph? Also, the lumps could those be eggs? She doesn't seem big enough to be able to reproduce but has 3-4 pretty good size lumps in er bottom third. They could be a few large meals too, what do you think? Thanks for your help IDing her.
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Ok..... first that is NOT a motley.... motley have a solid clean white belly. No checkering whatsoever. I have several motleys in my collection. As to the morph... I have some outcross bloodreds that are similar in appearance. I have also had a 2yr old Sunglow Motley lay slugs and she had never been with a male.
 
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I weighed her this morning- post eggs. A whopping 48 grams!
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:eek:

OMG..... you gotta get some weight on that girl. I dont breed my females till they are 300 grams

Congrats on the eggs. Shoot me a PM if you want me to tell you how we incubate ours without an incubator. I'll give you full setup.
 
Aw! Poor girl must be so tired! She looks identical to 2 of my normal corns. They don't have the typical black checkers on their bellies either,but they're definetly normals. That's why I love normals so much. They can all look so different! Good luck with the eggs and good luck with getting that momma beefed back up!
 
thanks for all the advice. btw, just wanted to say, i didn't breed her that small. I picked her up in the middle of the road thursday night. I was shocked she could even be gravid at that size! Her eggs are in the incubator with my ball python eggs. Although, I'd still be interested in how you incubate with out an incubator...
 
I don't think anyone was implying that you bred her, I think kevin was just saying that he doesnt breed his till 300 grams just to say wow she really is small. ;) I have seen a couple corns in my days of field herping that were gravid at a very small size so I don't think it's too unbelievable though not very common. Anyway good luck with those eggs and I hope momma starts putting on some good weight for you.
 
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thanks for all the advice. btw, just wanted to say, i didn't breed her that small. I picked her up in the middle of the road thursday night. I was shocked she could even be gravid at that size! Her eggs are in the incubator with my ball python eggs. Although, I'd still be interested in how you incubate with out an incubator...
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Your incubating them WAY TOO HIGH. Get them out now. Incubate corn eggs around 83*
 
SafariPets said:
thanks for all the advice. btw, just wanted to say, i didn't breed her that small. I picked her up in the middle of the road thursday night. I was shocked she could even be gravid at that size! Her eggs are in the incubator with my ball python eggs. Although, I'd still be interested in how you incubate with out an incubator...
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Sorry...didnt finish reading... just saw you had them in with your BP eggs.

Get a 6qt sterlite container, punch two small holes in each of the long sides... fill the bottom with bed-a-beast (room temp). Place eggs on the bed a beast and pour very hot water around the perimiter. DO NOT GET HOT WATER ON THE EGGS. Once you pour in the water... put the lid on and place on a high shelf in your reptile room. It should be around 83* up there. If the eggs start to shrivel a little.... pour more hot water around the perimiter to raise the humidity. In about 70 days... you'll have baby snakes.
 
She looks like a Hypo. Hypos have reduced melanin (black). I'm afraid their is no Hypo belly pictures posted on the CMG, but what you're seeing on her belly is very common for that morph.
 
Hey All, bad news with the eggs, I fried them! I was considering keeping her and trying to prove her out. She is currently the only corn snake I own and I don't feel like putting the effort towards it at this time. Do any of you want her? I thought I would ask you before I post her for sale. I would love for some one to take her and prove her out, I have been feeding her lizards and small hopper+ mice. PM me if interested. I don't really have a price in mind but not much...
 
Id like to say Im sorry to hear about the eggs! Second she is for sure a Hypo as TripleMoonsExotic said. Its the belly and the size that gives it away. Large normals can end up with very little black around the saddles due to washing out of colors, however she isnt that old. Adults also retain black on the belly. Also at her size it may as stated be the eggs werent fertilized, corns commonly throw eggs rather they were fertilized or not. Heres a link to some pictures of the Hypo morph, http://iansvivarium.com/morphguide/hypomelanistic/.
 
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