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Rescues from tlyons

This is the email I have just sent..
I hope it isn't to harsh but ohwell if it is..

Ok it has been a week now, I see no need for this wait, also paypal says that you have told them you have alreay paid us back.. If we or paypal do not recieve our money by tomorrow I will take your IP address that I have from your email and I will turn it in to the FBI Internet fraud Div. and your local police department. As well as your phone company whom I have already contacted, and yahoo as well.
I am sorry but this wait is NOT acceptable.. you have untill tomorrow morning to respond and send our money back through paypal...
It took us all of 5 minutes to send you your money.. It should be the same to return ours..
This will be the last time I email, if there is no response by 7:00am my time 9:00am your time, I will turn this case over
Sandie
 
You go Sandie!! After reading this thread and the other one, I knew the Name Tracey Lyons was familiar. She is in the yahoo groups I have for posting animals for adoption. She also heavily advertizes on Mice-On-Ice's adoption board. In both my groups and on Mice-On-Ice she actively seeks out animals and has had some ads advertizing them for adoption. I have just removed her from my groups and banned her. Do you know if she has a website? I have many other rescue websites listed on mine, and the last thing I would want is to be advertizing her site.
 
No I have no idea of a web site, and thank you btw..
If you have any info on her or her brother I would really appreciate it too..

Thanks so much
 
No, no money yet but these are the 2 emails I got this morning..



"Tracey" <[email protected]> | This is spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Payment Accepted!
To: "Sam Wallace" <[email protected]>



ok it may have taking you 5 minutes but once she transfered it into our account I have to pull it out of our account. through paypal. I am not waiting. I just have not been home I am going to send a cashiers check. could you please give me a address again
________________________________________________

I just got in from hospital this morning. I am sorry that I have not been answering your e-mails. I am not meaning to. Just been at the hospital. I have told paypal I am sending you a cashiers check instead of useing them.
 
That's bogus! If Paypal has access to their account, they can withdraw it immediately, just like they did when you sent it to them in the first place. If he/she does not send you the money ASAP, I would have Paypal freeze their account until the debt is payed.

It's really strange that all of these people who cannot pay their debts are always in and out of the hospital when their debts a re due, but have great health when taking in money. Guess that's why the medical system in America is in such bad shape, Huh? All of the deadbeats are filling up the hospital beds!!!!!

;)
 
you know I am trying my best to be nice and understanding here but that will only go so far.. they can send pay pal a reciept for a money order and then will they drop the case?? that doesn't mean they sent it!!!
I don't like it one bit.. I think it should be returned the same way it was given....
 
Address ??

This is the address that Tracey gave me when she applied to adopt iguanas from my rescue. I never found out if they were legit...I'll email the addy I have for her and see just who responds....maybe she has internet in ICU??
Name: Tracey Lyons

Full Address (No P.O. Box allowed)

Number and Street:6246 East Circle Dr.#4

City, State, Zip: Columbia, MO 65202

Phone: (573)875-6725
cell phone 573-864-3223
 
No problem.....I hope it is a good address and phone number for her.
 
Todays email!!!

05-01-03


This has turned it to a joke, now I am the bad guy!!!


Well it takes time to get it into the paypal that is why I wanted to do the cashiers but I will return the cashiers check and pull it into paypal. I just wont have time to check and make sure you got it. Tracey is being sent to a different hospital for yet another surgery. I will try and get on a computer at the library to make sure you got this money that way I cant rid myself this headache over your worring. I am very sorry this happened but this is getting stupid. I have reported your e-mail address for harassment. I told you I would return the funds and you keep insiting to now make it longer. This will only delay from paypal. But after you get your funds then never email me again. Or I will report you again my attorney has instructed me to let you know that e-mails need to be directed to the e-mail address that follows

[email protected]

This way you cant state I never stated I would do a cashiers check instead of taking so long through paypal after as I count and he has 23 e-mails from you. This is considered to be harasment. And it is not allowed by law. Even through e-mails. And I also informed you that over half of the babies have died and also that we were in a car wreck that has my wife confind to a wheel chair and she cant remember what happened. This could be alot more easier if you had a heart and let me take care of what I had to before you went and made threats and stated to paypal that I did not send you your shipment. After a car wreck would have made a good reason no contact. I am sending a copy of this to my attorney as well. That way he know what I stated.
 
My reply...


Please do send this to your lawyer, if he has any questions tell him to feel free to email me as I have also saved every email you have sent me. though they are few and far between...
Or if you prefer have him call me that would be fine too.. you have my number and address as I also now have yours.
you have made many promises and changed things even before the transaction took place.. yes I still have those emails as well..
I am not harrassing you I just want what is fare and what is owed to me..
I do not see why this is such an ordeal as I said before it took less then 5 minutes for me to send you the money and it has taken over a week for you to return it to me..

Also had you responded to my emails in a timl
y manor, I would have had no need to email so many times.. I have tried to be understanding but you make it very hard..
In MY OPINION, if you have enough time to email me, you have enough time to send money through pay pal..
As far as it taking time to get to pay pal, it didn't take you very long to take the money out...

I do not take kindly to threats Mr David Lyons and will not hassitate to fullfill my previous warnings, this is not a game to me and my paitents have worn thin..

This will indeed be my last email if all goes well and my money is returned by tomorrow..

PS I have also sent a copy to your lawyer to save you the time.. yes this is a big headache for me as well..

Thank you and have a good day sir.
 
Something is wrong with this entire thing.

I don't know what Michael Kipps, an electrician in Ohio, would have to do with any of this? Before they have a chance to change the information on that email address, here is what is showing right now:



m_kipps's profile Search: Members by Interest Members by Name White Pages by Name Members by Yahoo! ID for



Profile Stats
Last Updated: 02/28/2003

My Email
[email protected]

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Basics
Yahoo! ID: m_kipps
Real Name: Michael Kipps
Location: Tiffin, OH
Age: 32
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Occupation: Union Electronics Technician

I wouldn't bother with the new address at all. Keep all of your correspondence sent to the SAME EMAIL ADDRESS YOU SENT THE PAYPAL TO so that there can be no question about what THE PERSON WHO RECEIVED THE PAYPAL was told by you.

Personally, I would send all of this to PayPal so that they could see the refund has not been processed as was indicated to them by the seller.
 
Thank you so much..


You know just when one thinks all is lost you guys come in like a bunch of knights on your white horse's!!!

Ya'll are great people. Thanks for standing by me!!

Sandie
 
Here's another kick in the butt for them...lol! When her application was processed we found out that her landlord will not allow for them to have any reptile more than 8", yes, 8 INCHES! Also, the vet reference she gave she has never been to. BTW, just so things don't get confused, Kathy and I are partners in rescue :D
 
From the phone number and address you posted this is the name I got..


Tettaton, L

6246 N East Circle Dr
COLUMBIA, MO 65202
573-875-6725
 
This is the message I recieved today from asking her if she was still interested in adopting.....

I am sorry but Tracey was in a car crash and is not making progress we have not been able to get the
money up for more reptiles and I can not take on another at this time. Sorry. I am her husband.
 
OK, so there WAS a police chase

Why am I obsessed with this one? Because it's Missouri, I was born and raised here, and I don't like people giving it a bad name. Once I saw that these people had listed an address in Columbia, I started doing some digging there.

Anyway, I found an interesting article in the Columbia Tribune. There WAS a police chase on Friday, 4/18. The car that was being chased DID hit another vehicle. However, that's where the similarities end.

I don't know if Tracey was the female driver that was described. However, if so she was treated and released. No mention of the car being full of reptiles (which CERTAINLY would have been news worthy). I'm also wondering why they were on their way to UPS at 8:39 p.m.

What I'm saying is that I think a quick read about this incident might in the morning paper on Saturday or Monday might have just given them the idea to use the story. How cynical am I?

Anyway, here's the story. You can check it out yourselves at www.columbiatribune.com I am cutting and pasting 2 articles, one from Saturday, 4/19 and one from Monday, 4/21. Draw your own conclusions.

Here is the link to the 4/19 picture:

http://archive.columbiatribune.com/2003/Apr/20030419News002.asp

Columbia police officers last night examine one of two cars involved in a collision about 8:45 p.m. yesterday at Spring Valley Road and Broadway after a pursuit that reached speeds of 70 mph on Pershing Road. The crash closed a stretch of Broadway for more than an hour. Columbia police Sgt. Ken Hammond said the incident began as officers tried to stop a car with four men inside after someone reported individuals with a gun at Columbia Mall. The suspects’ car crashed into another vehicle. One vehicle came to rest in the front yard of a home on the southeast corner of Spring Valley and Broadway. All the vehicle’s occupants fled. Police captured two suspects last night, and two others remained at large late last night. Police did not find a firearm but did find a bag of crack cocaine at the scene. Hammond said police arrested Marcus Brown, the driver who led police on the chase, on suspicion of narcotics trafficking, felony leaving the scene, felony fleeing in a motor vehicle, misdemeanor resisting arrest, second-degree property damage and other traffic violations. The woman driving the other car was taken to University Hospital, where she was treated and released.

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By JUSTIN WILLETT of the Tribune’s staff
Published Monday, April 21, 2003
The four men fled in different directions when the Buick LeSabre they were in crashed into a car at the intersection of Broadway, Pershing Road and Spring Valley Road after a high-speed chase with police Friday night.

Two of the men were apprehended at the scene; one was arrested and the other admitted to University Hospital.

The other two men, however, might never be identified because their cohorts have not cooperated with police.

The incident began at 8:39 p.m. Friday when Columbia police were sent to the parking lot of Barnes & Noble at the Columbia Mall to check out a report of people with a handgun loitering around a parked car.

According to Columbia police Sgt. Ken Hammond, when officers arrived, the four suspects got in the Buick and fled. Officers chased the Buick through west-central Columbia, at one time reaching 70 mph on Pershing.

When the suspects tried to pull onto Broadway, however, their car crashed into another car and came to a stop in a front yard at the southeast corner of Broadway and Spring Valley. The men ran away.

Police captured two suspects at the scene.

Officers found no firearm but did find a bag of crack cocaine.

The crash closed a stretch of Broadway for more than an hour.

The woman who was driving the other car was taken to University Hospital, where she was treated and released.

Local attorney Mitch Moore, who lives on Broadway almost directly across from the southern end of Pershing, said he wonders if the men were worth chasing.

"Who is the source of" the report of the gun?" Moore asked. "I could call and say you have a gun. I’m interested to know more about what prompted the police to engage in that sort of chase."

McCrary said officers have the discretion to initiate chases for any offense - even running a red light. He said officers must, however, notify their supervisors, who can end the pursuit at any time if they think it’s too dangerous.

Columbia police identified the driver of the Buick as 22-year-old Marcus Brown.

He was arrested on suspicion of narcotics trafficking, felony leaving the scene, felony fleeing in a motor vehicle, misdemeanor resisting arrest, second-degree property damage and other traffic violations.

A 20-year-old black man captured at the scene was admitted to University Hospital.

Police Capt. Moon McCrary said that if he were to be arrested, it would be after he is released from the hospital.

"The other two haven’t been caught," McCrary said. "Marcus Brown didn’t even tell" investigators "if anyone else was in the car. The only names we have are Marcus Brown’s and the passenger."
 
well the funny thing is they were on thier way to ups on monday @ 2:00, so unless it is a 3 day drive to the ups there was problems...
lol
 
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