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I would say the pictures from paul showing the box weighing 1.02lb and the weight on the label at exactly 1.00lb are pretty normal.
Lets say there had been an ackie in there and it would have pushed the weight up to even just 1.5lb total then the label would have been rounded up to 2.0lb as Fedex do not deal in fractions of a lb.

However there is also this to consider.
It does look like the label is a home printed one and if that is the case when you make your label online it only knows what you tell it, so you could punch in 1.0lb for weight even if box was truly say 1.7lb. The label will only show the 1.0lb entered not the true shipped weight, you would need to see a copy of the senders actual Fedex billing which shows actual weight AFTER it was scanned and weighed at whatever location it was dropped off at.

So with all that being said at this point it is still a he said/she said situation.
Without either a boxing or unboxing video at either end, either party could be telling the truth or untruths.

Somebody is going to end up being out a sum of money on this one unfortunately.
 
True but if you also bother to read my post you will see I said the 1.0lb on the SELF PRINTED label has NOTHING to do with actual weight of the box, it is just the figure the seller punched in while creating the label.
That I know for a fact as I create my own labels all the time and it only shows what you personally enter.

Shoot, I could ship a 10lb box and enter it as 1lb while making the label.
Then when it was scanned it would show up as 10lb IN THE SYSTEM but still the label would show just 1lb!
When my monthly bill for fedex becomes due I would see they charged me for ACTUAL WEIGHT of 10lb not the 1lb I entered.

Do you now see my point?
 
No problem and just to be absolutely clear I am not taking any sides here at all.
Just pointing out why the 1.0lb printed on the label cannot be taken as an absolute guarantee that nothing was shipped in the box.
As I said without definitive proof one way or another this is a tough one.
Sorry and good luck.
 
MikeCurtin said:
Paul, will Fedex give you any information at all? I know they said the sender has to file the claim, but could you request the actual weight of the package?
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That's a good idea, especially since it seems the seller has no interest in figuring out what has happened to the ackie that he says was in the box. His disinterest is suspicious, if I had shipped an animal & my buyer said the box was empty, I'd be on the phone to FedEx in a heartbeat to figure out where the animal was.
 
If the animal escaped from the shipping box during shipment, the bag would be torn, the box would be torn also. Is the box intact on all sides? If so, then you can rule out any claim that the animal must of escaped by itself during shipping.
 
Unfortunately by the circumstances and responses from both sides so far, my gut feeling is that no ackie was ever shipped and the buyer has been stiffed.
That being likely he should start a PayPal claim right away, stating all circumstances so far.
 
aqui4no said:
And post documents of my car accident? That has nothing to do with what’s going on Chris.
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It seems like one of the BOI reasons given for late reptile shipments/broken agreements/nonpayment is an automobile accident followed by hospitalization resulting in the subsequent transaction problem.
Please, drive carefully.
 
As you can see from the email I sent you with the pics there is no sign of escape and I also found it odd that the sender didn't call FedEx right away I called FedEx immediately and was told the sender has to call
 
FedEx does not like to deal with anybody bar the person who set up the shipment and paid for it, that is true.
At this stage I would go direct to PayPal, unless you paid by friends and family which i hope not
 
Well fortunately American Express will credit my account and do there own investigation I just hope no one deals with this shady guy if anyone has an adult female red ackie for sale please contact me
 
roughryder194 said:
As you can see from the email I sent you with the pics there is no sign of escape and I also found it odd that the sender didn't call FedEx right away I called FedEx immediately and was told the sender has to call
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That is because as far as FedEx is concerned, the shipper, who actually paid their shipping fee to them, is really their customer, not the receiving party.

You can certainly complain to FedEx about HOW, WHEN, or WHERE something was delivered to your address, but concerning the actual package contents itself, I'm sure that will be strictly between yourself and the shipper. FedEx, as far as they are concerned, did what they were paid to do.

The problem, as I see it, is that neither side, so far, has provided any actual proof of their side of the story.

IMHO.
 
Do we know if the seller PERSONALLY packed and shipped the animal? It sounds like his wife/gf (?) was responding to texts after he had the car accident and she was going to be the person to ship it. I'm not saying that "Simone" didn't send it....but is there any chance the seller had a buddy send it? A less than reliable buddy maybe?

It just seems like a scam that would never work, shipping an empty box, especially if you take a payment backed up by Amex (who will probably support their customer). A person who cooked that up would likely be more on the defensive right away, and maybe have some kind of story ready. And would have wanted payment that couldn't be taken back by the buyer easily. Whoever was getting the texts seemed honestly surprised when told the box was empty.

It just doesn't seem to make sense for the seller or buyer to do this. Odd situation and really hard to tell what happened.
 
tlmoon said:
It just seems like a scam that would never work, shipping an empty box,
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I'm not saying it is a scam, however, we have seen this scenario play out before:
1. Shipping empty boxes :yesnod:
2. Shipping rocks :yesnod:
3. Shipping substitute/less valuable animals :yesnod:

Not all scams are thought out very well, often times they evolve over time. Back in the day, I personally was shipped a $50 ball python instead of the $1,000 one I paid for. That attempted scam wasn't going to last very long either and my scammer played just as dumb too.
 
If a girlfriend/wife botched the shipping by mistake, well that means there is one extra ackie still sitting in its cage back in Omaha right now.
 
Robert Walker said:
If a girlfriend/wife botched the shipping by mistake, well that means there is one extra ackie still sitting in its cage back in Omaha right now.
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I would suggest she register here. I would suggest that he show documents I mentiined earlier (thanx Lucille for the reminder). I would suggest both af them come on here and utilize this forum the what it is intended. The truth shall set...somebody...free.
 
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