Security & Privacy, Personal information, Stolen Identities, Protecting Our Family

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Like the fact that you're using a fake name and vague location. Even if you messaged me right now and sent me your driver's license, social security card, and medical history, I would still wonder why you felt the need to hide your real name in the first place. It does not make me comfortable proceeding in business with someone who behaves in such a manner.

 

[Occidentalis]

This sounds like the forwards from my elderly relatives when they first figured out how to use the internet and email. Paranoia, fear mongering, and ignorance of the fact that a phone book (remember those?) provides more information than the profile here.

Unlike the phone book, if you don't like the terms, don't register. It really is that simple.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

I'm not going to argue this with you any more, either you'll put your real name and location or I won't see you again. Doesn't matter to me either way, just telling you the facts.

I said this a while ago and then got caught up . I'm over it, either you post your info or you leave in 24 hours.

 

[skygear]

I understand what you're saying, but from my understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong Rich), the fact that people post their name and location has NEVER led to any form of identity theft on this site. I personally have my business email, personal cell number, and picture of myself available on my website that is posted at the bottom of every single one of my posts. The fact of the matter is, I have nothing to hide. I am completely transparent with people because that's the sort of business I believe in.

I have had people who I have never spoken with call me or email me with questions about snakes. It has never been an issue. If they're looking to buy, I usually tell them to text me or email me with details (so that it is documented), but there is absolutely no need for someone to send me a formal message first to introduce themselves. I don't need to know someone's life story to give them a snake, I just won't deal with someone that sounds fishy from the get go. That's all there is to it.

And thats what I am saying. If it was a normal business transaction. All this Forum etiquette would be unnecessary. I simply joined to look for HELP in finding what I was in search of since al the breeders I have dealt with have had none or no leads to assist with. Some of them even have the right snakes on their site, but then claim they do not have it and that there is a mistake on the site. Months go by and they are still advertising the same thing I am trying to buy, but they do not have it.

I do business in the real world and on the net. People know who I am when they want to do business with me.

I HAVE been a victim of Identity and financial theft and why I am concerned with it here on an open board. Go through it once, it stays there your whole life. Try getting the equity back on a house that a second mortgage was taken out on fraudulently.


Everything seems well and fine until the bad happens. It should be the users choice and then the sellers choice wether to do business with the said user.

 

[skygear]

Nick, I do like this snake. Although I am not into balls.

Really nice collection. Your projects are turning out nicely.

 

[Big Borg Reptiles]

Thank you, we have some pairings coming up this season that I'm really excited about.

This forum really is a great place for information or to build up a business relationship, I encourage you to reconsider your stance. Providing your name and location will not make you susceptible to anything more than a phone book would, as Alexander stated previously.

 

[skygear]

I was reading about the pairings. Interesting stuff. Not setup at all in my house for anything breeding. Wanted to have some snakes for my daughters. They Love the all white snakes and all black. We helped a local rescue with a rat snake recently. They absolutely loved it. Fast, great temperament. The neighbor has a boa, they were not into it at all.

 

[skygear]

Anyways, was not my intention to cause waves. My apologies to all. Just wanted a fair shake at finding my daughters a couple new 'friends' to take care of without putting our perceived privacy out there.

 

[WebSlave]

You people, wow. Take the internet too seriously. There is real and present danger with your Personal information. It should be the users choice to openly display it or not.

Rich, you must know the risks of the information you want all of the users to display. There is no way you can't know. At 65 (displayed age) there is no way you don't watch the news and see the risks the news people even say not to use!!! Let alone the police!

I am not one of these ponzi importer scammers. I am a local guy wanting to get a couple inexpensive snakes for his daughters,.

My suggestion to you is that if you fear so much about such things, then get off of the internet and stay off.

As for actual risks, heck with the number of bad guys that have gotten deep sixed because I run this site and keep it running, you would think that if anyone were going to be a target for identity theft, that would be me. But has not happened. Heck, if someone wants to be me and have the headaches I have here, have at it. But don't bother me when you want out again.

 

[WebSlave]

My question is this. If I am a buyer, and you are a retailer or breeder with good rep. Why would there be an issue.? I send money via PayPal, you and I are both protected. NOW, you know my name and info since PP shows all that.

I PP invoice people multiple times daily without issue. In the rare instance there is a discrepancy, we handle it through PP and the funds are reversed, refunded, or a case is made with supporting facts.

Are you really that naive? You truly believe that no one has ever gotten scammed using PayPal?

Spend some time reading the Board Of Inquiry, fella, and see just how wrong you are about that.

 

[WebSlave]

I understand and still anyone could give a false name upon registration is my point here. No one would be the wiser. Anyone could put in a false location or use a proxy to spoof the IP location so everything seems in line. If someone was going after some high dollar animals or scamming, that would be a method I could see people using.

See, that is the point. If someone is using a false name here and/or a false identity, that will likely be exposed during the transaction process. If someone asks another to send animals to someone whose name does not match what is in their account here, or the location is not even close, THAT should be red flags to them. Point of the matter, they have already been exposed in a lie, and that should count heavily towards the decision to trust them or not.

The POINT of the matter is that it is much easier to catch someone in a lie if you have something to go on. Requiring REAL FULL NAMES and accurate locations gives people here that something to use to help them avoid people who will lie about such things, and therefor provide pretty substantial evidence that they will also lie about other pertinent details as well.

 

[WebSlave]

Your time is up. You can contact me through the Contact Us link at the bottom of the page whenever you feel you want to comply with the rules here. Otherwise, goodbye and good luck with the other places you want to hang out in.