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Bad Guy Steve Vigo (Lieber)

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I know this guy has many bad guy threads but I need to add one more. I sold $375 worth of Veiled chameleons to this guy and have $50 to show for it. What makes it really bad is this guy is LOCAL! He has done everything to evade me. I have driven by and caught him at his apartment a few times. After talking with him there for a bit I would give him a little more time because of whatever story he would throw at me. It has been around 2-3 months now and I am not being a nice guy anymore. You'd think if someone owes you money they would try and get into contact with you and come clean, not with this guy. Turns out he is KNOWN around here as a NON-PAYER. He can LIE with the best of them and make you believe all kinds of crap. I'm pretty sure he has moved from where he used to live but I will be following up with legal action against him. It's only $325 but he's not going to do this any longer. I don't really care what it costs me in court costs, he's going down! Don’t believe his ads, I know for a fact he sells w.c. veiled chameleons as ones he produced from some of his adults.

Thought I'd also add he has a number of Custom Cages from a LOCAL company. After speaking with them it turns out he NEVER PAID for them! I know he's screwing people over the internet, but he's also doing it to local people.

Here's his info:

Steve Vigo
Posts as "Lieber" on kingsnake.com
Cell: (954) 729 0999
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://www.TheVeiledChameleon.com
 
There was a misunderstanding to Steve's and My agreement. I just recieved payment (which we agreed on) and Steve owe's me nothing. Thank you Steve.
 
Curious George said:
He still owes money to Beardeds and Veileds, The Chameleon Company, and others. There's threads on it, and notes in some web sites.
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I was contact by admin saying I had to name the Cage Company. The local company is: L.D.S. Company Inc. http://www.screencages.com/

I didn't get the full amount owed but I'm happy with what I was able to get.
 
I met Steve early of 2009 and he seemed to be one of the good guys.I purchased some young Veileds from him and now a year later most are dead,or they dont grow big enough to breed and the one or two that did breed became eggbound and died.By far the worst quality of reptiles I've ever purchased.My brother wanted to get out of Veileds because of the cost of maintaining them so he sent Steve Vigo 15 adults for $750 + $116 to ship.That was 4 month's ago and my brother still hasn't been paid.I was also supposed to get an adult female,het for leucistic, monacle Cobra from him 4 month's ago and still havent got her.Steve will not answer my phone calls or respond to e-mails.I have now been completely ripped off and lied to by Steve Vigo,Jay Eaton and Rick White.Steve and Jay are both out of Florida and Rick White is out of Colorado.These three individual's all have something in common:they are all professional thieves and liars and are the scumbag types that ruin our business and love for reptiles.
 
In addition to their normal site (http://www.theveiledchameleon.com/), they also have a second site (http://www.veiledchameleoncare.com/). The WhoIs info for their main site is an address in Portugal but here it is for their other site:

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Hey John, go get him!!! He has taken me for $3600 of veileds and bearded dragons. Using kevin soto from Touch of class of reptiles, collecting my money from kelvin, he gave steve cash after some bs story and of course I never received the money. I have tried contacting steve, thru texting, emails and phone calls and never get a reply. If I lived in Florida I would of went after him. Go get him. He has alot of other court stuff to deal with from what he has told me and I could only assume it is because of his scams. Also kelvin soto agreed to give me half of what he owed me but never paid me. Wonder if them two are both together out to rip off others? Keep the posts up, would love to see the outcome and hope steve gets what he deserves. Karma, what comes around goes around...
 
Steve does not have a FL venomous reptiles permit and CAN NOT get cobra's period. I have never had a problem with Jay Eaton and will continue to do business with him, pretty sure he does not deal with Steve. I made a deal and I'm happy not losing everything, I'm done chasing him down. I'm just happy I got out when I did!
 
I just wanted to re-ignite this thread. Steve contacted me approx 2-3 weeks ago wanting to come clean and pay me off what was rightfully owed to me. After keeping in contact with me for a day or so it came time to meet up. I didn't think anything of it when he didn't show. After the excusses he agreed to meet up again. The entire time he promised to send a check. Again he didn't show. He no longer answers calls or texts. I thought he was going to try and change and figured I'd give him another chance. The man stayed true to his colors. I will now go through the process to have him banned from kingsnake.com as a seller. If we cut off his means of advertising fewer people will be scammed. It's a real pitty, he's got a nice little web site.
 
It's a real pitty, he's got a nice little web site.
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Nope, it's not a pity at all. His nice little web site only lures new scamming victims. His nice little web site doesn't mean (and I'm cleaning this up) squat when he and Karin Lieber have proven over and over again they are nothing more than liars, thieves, lousy animal caretakers and scammers. Smurf his website, smurf his "business", IMO.
 
Its hard to keep it clean when talking about these two...I would rather buy garbage out of a random garbage truck and throw it in a tank and throw a light on it before I would send these people a dime for any animal....I wouldnt even give them a nickle for a candy apple red cham that produced its own metallic flakes for its color pattern...
 
Can anyone of help me verify the current address for Steve Vigo is 4562 NW 58th Court Tamarac, Florida 33319. IF you know of a different address post it here, or pm me asap. Thanks in advance. Randall
 
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