• Responding to email notices you receive.
    **************************************************
    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

  • IMPORTANT! PLEASE READ!! About the Google Adsense ads being displayed

    =====================
    Posted 08/15/2025
    =====================


    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

    =====================
    Addendum: 01/10/2026
    =====================


    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Stupid dog owners!

M

M.Dwight

New member
Joined
Jun 28, 2005
Messages
164
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Age
63
Location
29 Palms California
There are several people who live in my neighborhood who let there big dogs (like rots and dobermans) run loose. The rest of the neighborhood is held captive in our own homes because of these damn dogs that try to bite everyone who walks down the road. I like to exercise by taking walks but I can't even do that for fear of being attacked. Someday one of these rots are going to kill some poor child on a bike or playing ball. I've called the police several times and they will do nothing. In my mind people who let big dangerous dogs run free are the scum of the earth. How many people have to get bit and children have to die before we do something about these scum. I just heard on the news another two year old girl was killed by her neighbors Rottweiler. When the hell are people going to wake up?
I'm going to do my best to get stronger laws past on the keeping of dogs. I'm normally against strong laws or bans on animal keeping but when a person can not even walk down his own sidewalk something has to be done. These big dogs like rots are every bit as dangerous as any large wild animal like bears or large feline species....they can kill you just the same. There have already been to many victims. I'm going to do my best to put a stop to it.
 
M.Dwight said:
There are several people who live in my neighborhood who let there big dogs (like rots and dobermans) run loose. The rest of the neighborhood is held captive in our own homes because of these damn dogs that try to bite everyone who walks down the road. I like to exercise by taking walks but I can't even do that for fear of being attacked. Someday one of these rots are going to kill some poor child on a bike or playing ball. I've called the police several times and they will do nothing. In my mind people who let big dangerous dogs run free are the scum of the earth. How many people have to get bit and children have to die before we do something about these scum. I just heard on the news another two year old girl was killed by her neighbors Rottweiler. When the hell are people going to wake up?
I'm going to do my best to get stronger laws past on the keeping of dogs. I'm normally against strong laws or bans on animal keeping but when a person can not even walk down his own sidewalk something has to be done. These big dogs like rots are every bit as dangerous as any large wild animal like bears or large feline species....they can kill you just the same. There have already been to many victims. I'm going to do my best to put a stop to it.
Click to expand...
I suppose everything is open to interpretation. When I lived in New England in a rural town with 2-5 acre minimum lot sizes many people allowed their dogs free run and had no fences. Most were not vicious and there was plenty of "home territory" for them to stay on. We had about 5 acres of woods behind the house and most of the time our dogs stayed there or in the neighbors' woods. I used to worry more about them during hunting season as people often tresspassed on our posted property. They rarely if ever got in anyone's actual yard and the road was over 1000 feet away. Some people closer to the road did have some more aggressive breeds and most were responsible.

Here in Virginia Beach which is a more like a huge suburb, most people use fences and leashes. Our yard is fully fenced and the dogs can be out there safely as much as they like. Animal Control comes at a call so it is generally not a problem.

Sadly it is the few who spoil it for the many of us who are responsible keepers.
 
It's not the dogs that are the problem, it's the owners. Being a vet tech, I've met tons of big dogs like rotties and dobies, and 90% of them are are the sweetest things. It's the owners who don't take the time to socialize their dogs and teach them right from wrong that end up with problem dogs. Instead of banning certain breeds, there need to be stricter laws on dogs running at large, and they need to be enforced. Next time you see a dog running loose, call animal control and have it picked up. Maybe when the owners have to pay to get it back, they'll be less likely to let it loose again.
 
Jim O said:
Sadly it is the few who spoil it for the many of us who are responsible keepers.
Click to expand...
I agree. I have kept German shepherds my whole life and my father is even an AKC judge who has been breeding GS for over 40 years. But we are RESPONSIBLE and keep the dogs indoors or in locked kennals where they belong....not roaming the streets. Why is it always the folks with brains the size of flea turds that keep rots and pit bulls. I will be working VERY hard to pass harsher leash and housing laws for dogs in my state.
 
Most states have leash laws and I'm surprised California doesn't.

Like reptilemama said, it's them owners. I have an Akita that would try to eat most anything that moved if she got out. I'd rather not have her get hurt or hurt someone or another animal so she stays either in the house or in the 50 x 100 area of the yard that is fenced in.
 
DAND said:
Most states have leash laws and I'm surprised California doesn't.
Click to expand...
We do have a leash law but it is a joke. The police don't want to be bothered with this sort of thing and mostly just hand out warnings.
I want to see SERIOUS fines handed out to those who let their dogs run free. And if found running free a second time the dog is removed from the owner.
I find it strange that most states require that you get a permit to keep harmless wild mammals but anyone can own a 150 pound rottweiler that can kill you in a heart beat. Does that really sound logical to you?
I'm whole heartily for our right to keep animals but my safety, the safety of our children and my RIGHT to walk down my road without being harassed comes first.
 
Karen Hulvey said:
I know you said you called the police, but did you call Animal Control? I don't think the PD handles animals.
Click to expand...

In my city animal control is a part of the police department...same thing.
The current animal control system is useless. The proof of this is all the dogs we see on the streets, the thousands of dog bites reported every year and the many deaths from large breeds of dogs. The current system does not educate the public or hand out strong punishment for those who break the law. It is past time for a change. It's time we made dog owners responsible for their pets. If you don't have a enough common sense or care enough to keep your dog off the street then you should not be allowed to own one. This is also to protect the dog...how many dogs get killed by cars every year?
The bottom line is that people who let their dogs run the streets are people who just plain don't care about much of anything....they don't care who their dog may bite or kill...they don't care that a car may hit their dog or someone may shoot it....they don't care that it may crap on or tear up someones lawn....They just don't care...Caring is perhaps the most important human trait...if you don't posses it you shouldn't be allowed to own a dog.
 
While I agree that "some" animals are dangerous, I have to agree that the owners are usually to blame. The owners have to be held responsible for the animals behavior. Just as parents are held responsible for thier childrens behavior.
Would those owners that allow thier dogs to roam at large allow thier children to roam about with out any supervision.
It is all about responsible pet ownership. I have small dogs and I keep them in the house or in my fenced yard as much for thier protection as for the protection of others.
Ginger Ambrose
 
DAND said:
I'd contact your local City Counsel member and voice your concerns. During this, I'd also ask hot to go about getting such things you are speaking of put on a future ballot.
Click to expand...
Good advise Dand. And a good starting point. I thing this is just what I will do.
 
old beginner said:
While I agree that "some" animals are dangerous, I have to agree that the owners are usually to blame. The owners have to be held responsible for the animals behavior. Just as parents are held responsible for thier childrens behavior.
Would those owners that allow thier dogs to roam at large allow thier children to roam about with out any supervision.
It is all about responsible pet ownership. I have small dogs and I keep them in the house or in my fenced yard as much for thier protection as for the protection of others.
Ginger Ambrose
Click to expand...
Hi Ginger. Glad to see someone understands my points. Do you think most people will see these points or do you think I'm wasting my time trying to make a change?
 
I would think others might agree that we as the "adults" are responsible.
An animal cannot be allowed to roam free to do what "comes naturally", any more than a two year old would be allowed to do the same.
The person that allowed a child to freely roam at will would most likley have that child removed from their care. The same should happen to those pet owners that choose to allow their pets to do so. Just as allowing a teen to run amok and damage other peoples property is unacceptable, allowing the family pet to run around and cause havoc is just as irresponsible.
We profess to love our animals as our family, we should then care enough to protect them, and keep them at home where we know they will not be harmed or harm someone else.
 
Back
Top