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Sugar Gliders

I've been looking through the various diets and I find it notable that so many are complicated and difficult and others require special ingredients like 'wombaroo powder' and bee pollen.

Still others bemoan the complicatedness of it all and try to sell you their brand of dry glider kibble as an alternative.

I find the whole subject smacks of elitism and commerce that sometimes does not seem to have the best interests of the gliders in mind.

Nutrition is not the rocket science that some with gliders make it out to be.
And I find it distasteful that some of these glider boards expect newbies to arrive, make a ritual bow of obeisance, kiss the ring of the current nutrition queen, and empty their wallets for the benefit of vendors preying on the natural inclination of pet owners to want the best for their pets.

I think that a good working knowledge of nutrition is all it takes, and I'm hoping that some will start threads here to provide ideas for diets that are simple, and healthy.
 
lucille said:
I've been looking through the various diets and I find it notable that so many are complicated and difficult and others require special ingredients like 'wombaroo powder' and bee pollen.

Still others bemoan the complicatedness of it all and try to sell you their brand of dry glider kibble as an alternative.

I find the whole subject smacks of elitism and commerce that sometimes does not seem to have the best interests of the gliders in mind.

Nutrition is not the rocket science that some with gliders make it out to be.
And I find it distasteful that some of these glider boards expect newbies to arrive, make a ritual bow of obeisance, kiss the ring of the current nutrition queen, and empty their wallets for the benefit of vendors preying on the natural inclination of pet owners to want the best for their pets.

I think that a good working knowledge of nutrition is all it takes, and I'm hoping that some will start threads here to provide ideas for diets that are simple, and healthy.
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Exactly! My Gliders thrived and I never had any issues with joeys being killed or anything else, and I fed what I stated above. I also added a vitamin/calcium supplement to the food a few times monthly.
 
lucille said:
I've been looking through the various diets and I find it notable that so many are complicated and difficult and others require special ingredients like 'wombaroo powder' and bee pollen.

Still others bemoan the complicatedness of it all and try to sell you their brand of dry glider kibble as an alternative.

I find the whole subject smacks of elitism and commerce that sometimes does not seem to have the best interests of the gliders in mind.

Nutrition is not the rocket science that some with gliders make it out to be.
And I find it distasteful that some of these glider boards expect newbies to arrive, make a ritual bow of obeisance, kiss the ring of the current nutrition queen, and empty their wallets for the benefit of vendors preying on the natural inclination of pet owners to want the best for their pets.

I think that a good working knowledge of nutrition is all it takes, and I'm hoping that some will start threads here to provide ideas for diets that are simple, and healthy.
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Some of what is included in their so-called diets, ie.. wombaroo powder, bee pollen, etc... are somewhat over the top IMHO. Sure, its great to give them EXACTLY what they have in the wild but is it feasible and necessary in captive life?

KelliH said:
Exactly! My Gliders thrived and I never had any issues with joeys being killed or anything else, and I fed what I stated above. I also added a vitamin/calcium supplement to the food a few times monthly.
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Kelli, are you talking about the typical reptile supplements that we know and love? If so, those are what I use everyone once in awhile. My gliders seem to thrive in the enviroment that I have them in as well.
 
StrictlyExotics said:
Some of what is included in their so-called diets, ie.. wombaroo powder, bee pollen, etc... are somewhat over the top IMHO. Sure, its great to give them EXACTLY what they have in the wild but is it feasible and necessary in captive life?
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I agree. At the cellular level, it does not matter where the nutrition comes from. Expensive supplements such a bee pollen should not be neccesay if the nutritional requirements are met in other ways.
 
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lucille said:
They are such cute critters!!!
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The only thing cuter than sugar gliders are little baby sugar glider joeys, of which I now have 2 from my whiteface/white tail pair:) Will try to post pictures soon.
 
lucille said:
I thank you for the link, went over there, it's a big glider site. They have some folks who really know their stuff and are extremely helpful. It's been my pleasure to talk to a few of them.
But the site also has TB- Toxic Biddies, you know, those women who breathlessly toddle into a conversation just to show off, or be the center of attention. I ran into a doozie while throwing out a few ideas in the nutrition forum a few days ago.
There are one or two glider recipes which call for those tiny jars of baby food chicken, and when you have a bunch of gliders that stuff can really add up (not to mention that fresh food might be better) I suggested that perhaps a recipe could be devised using fresh chicken.
So one of the TB crew toddles over and announces that if I'm worried about saving money on a few jars of baby food, maybe I have the wrong pet.:rolleyes:

We ought to get a little glider forum going over here. TBs that toddle over to this site usually toddle out pretty fast :D

I love my gliders, they are so cute!!!!
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It's the same on the parrot forums..and boy do I have FUN! I have birds that aren't biting me..(but one got out alas), eat fresh foods, drink from bottles and live in peace..they don't like me much on those forums. :rofl:

I had been looking at Sugars some time ago, made a few inquiries, but lost interest when a breeder tried to force me to buy TWO (saying that they can't be sold singly) when I only wanted one.
 
Well, I thought I would update this thread as I am going to hopefully go to Houston to pick up 1.1 White-Faced sugar gliders this Friday if all goes well. Very cute and will add to my menagerie quite nicely.
 
I had been looking at Sugars some time ago, made a few inquiries, but lost interest when a breeder tried to force me to buy TWO (saying that they can't be sold singly) when I only wanted one.
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I don't have any experience with only one glider, but I have had a glider self mutilate from being alone. I had one colony already and I found a neutered male that needed to be rehomed. I had him for maybe 3 days before he started to overgroom and pull his fur out (he was unhandable, which may have contributed to how fast he became depressed). He stopped sleeping and hung out on the bottom of his cage, whenever he heard a noise or saw me walk up to his cage he would fling him self around and throw his arms up in the air. In a desperate attempt to make him more comfortable I put one of my girls in with him, and it worked. Eventually all 4 were living together.

I only had him for about a month before he died. The others went to the vet and were all healthy, so I really think the stress of a new home and being away from his colony got to him. He was 6 years old.

With joeys its a different story. My first glider was kept singly in a TINY cage, and he was and still is the happiest little guy I have! He also has the nicest fur, which is a mystery since his first home fed him hamster food. He also had many hours of out of cage time, which probably kept him from becoming depressed.

If you still want a glider, try to find a local breeder. They will make exceptions to their rules if you can meet face to face and they really get to know you. They are AWESOME pets.



As for diet, since it's been talked about, I feed Leadbeater's Mix in combo with Reliable Protein Products Insectivore Diet. I did feed BML, since it seemed a highly recommended diet with easy to obtain ingredients, but my vet said the only diet she can back up is Leadbeater's. She's done extensive research on sugar gliders, has been to Australia a couple times, so I trust her way more than the biddies on any board who say sugar gliders are 'still a mystery'. I am not bashing any diet, I know many people who feed BML, HPW, and even their own versions of Leadbeater's/BML and have had awesome results, I just found a diet that works for me and my gang :).

The glider community is also extremely close knit, which is good and bad. Good in that if you make friends with the top breeders, you're friends with everyone. Bad in that if you make one enemy, you can never redeem yourself. I have made friends with breeders and owners, and every single one of them only uses the boards to advertize their joeys or cage accessories because it's so bad. I stopped going on all together. Even though most people I encountered were comepletly moderate, the ones who were intense were also incredible loud, and oftentimes had many followers who would flock to their side or change their opinions because of them.
 
I had been looking at Sugars some time ago, made a few inquiries, but lost interest when a breeder tried to force me to buy TWO (saying that they can't be sold singly) when I only wanted one.
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Sugar gliders should NOT be kept single, no matter what breeder you go to a good breeder will not let you buy just one. Sugar gliders are bonding animals. Even if you can spend a lot of time with them they need another one of them around to groom, sleep with, and play with at all times. If you had bought just one then you would have a very stressed out sugar glider who would self mutilate himself and will eventually die on you.
 
SilverRaichu said:
Sugar gliders should NOT be kept single, no matter what breeder you go to a good breeder will not let you buy just one. Sugar gliders are bonding animals. Even if you can spend a lot of time with them they need another one of them around to groom, sleep with, and play with at all times. If you had bought just one then you would have a very stressed out sugar glider who would self mutilate himself and will eventually die on you.
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If you have the time to spend with it 5 hours a day they are fine but no not all single gliders get stressed out and self mutilate and die. thats a little over drastic. I have bred them for almost 9 years so yes i would advise getting a friend but at the same time I have had singles that were single and then I tried to put them with other gliders and they just wanted to live alone
 
Someone posted a picture of a sugar glider that their friend owns on my FB and its nails are disgustingly long!!!! Curled right around :( I made a comment it needs its nails cut bad, hopefully they will or get someone to do it.

I had one when I was younger, its tough to cut nails on them, due to their size, but not impossible. Simply no excuse for it :(
 
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Sugar glider info refers to the most basic details about sugar glider pets. It is important to know the origin of these animals and the type of habitat they are used to. This is necessary to understand their basic needs. There are different ways to breed sugar gliders but the initial steps always involve having proper awareness, education or understanding of the most common information about these exotic animals. By starting on the right foot, you can be sure of the good development of your pet. More importantly, you can share what you know to people who want to become glider owners.:thumbsup:

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Lucille you want info and some help just text ,message me lol I have 9 currently. but good places are glidercentral.net ( like stated before ) there also plenty of facebook groups too I know i am a member of a rescue group and such.
 
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