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Texas Controlled Exotic Snake Permits are.......

Keith Northrop

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Now available at your Local Walmart or anywhere hunting licenses are sold.
If you posses any of the controlled specie I advise getting your permit.
$20 to possess......$60 for Commercial......Later
 
Keith, is this the list?

(1) Commercial possession--The possession of a controlled exotic snake for the purpose of sale.

(2) Controlled exotic snake--Any live snake that is:

(A) a venomous snake not indigenous to Texas;

(B) any of the following:

(i) African rock python (Python sebae);

(ii) Asiatic rock python, (Python molurus);

(iii) green anaconda, (Eunectes murinus);

(iv) reticulated python, (Python reticulatus);

(v) southern African python, (Python natalensis); or

(C) a hybrid of any species listed in this paragraph
 
Yes, except the cheap permit is for keeping. Those of us with the intent to sale have to buy the slightly more expensive permit!
KJ



lucille said:
Keith, is this the list?

(1) Commercial possession--The possession of a controlled exotic snake for the purpose of sale.

(2) Controlled exotic snake--Any live snake that is:

(A) a venomous snake not indigenous to Texas;

(B) any of the following:

(i) African rock python (Python sebae);

(ii) Asiatic rock python, (Python molurus);

(iii) green anaconda, (Eunectes murinus);

(iv) reticulated python, (Python reticulatus);

(v) southern African python, (Python natalensis); or

(C) a hybrid of any species listed in this paragraph
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From the Horses Mouth........

NEW STATE PERMIT REQUIRED FOR
POSSESSION/TRANSPORTATION/
SALE OF CERTAIN SNAKES
As mandated by House Bill 12 (80th Texas Legislature), an annual permit for the
possession of certain non-indigenous snake species, including the listed snakes
purchased as pets, is required for recreational or commercial activity involving any
of the following:
• Any venomous snake not indigenous to Texas,
• African Rock Python (Python sebae),
• Asiatic Rock Python (Python molurus),
• Green Anaconda (Eunectes murinus),
• Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus),
• Southern African Python (Python natalensis); and
• Hybrids of the snakes listed above.
AVAILABLE: April 1, 2008
FEES AND ACTIVITIES ALLOWED UNDER PERMIT:
$20.00 – Recreational Controlled Exotic Snake (RCES) Permit (Item 580):
• Allows possession and/or transportation of an unlimited number of snakes, but does not allow sale.
• Sales receipt for purchase of affected snake serves as a 21-day temporary RCES permit for purchaser.
$60.00 – Commercial Controlled Exotic Snake (CCES) Permit (Item 581):
• Allows possession, transportation, and/or sale of an unlimited number of snakes.
• CCES permit required and must be maintained on premises for each permanent place of business.
• Legible copy of CCES permit required on permittee’s person if regulated activity occurs off-site.
• Daily activity log for purchases and sales must be maintained and available for inspections.
The Commercial Controlled Exotic Snake Permit Report (PWD 1195) is available on-line at
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/business/permits/
For controlled exotic snakes imported to Texas by common carrier, a bill of lading shall function as a
temporary permit until the controlled exotic snakes are received by the consignor indicated on the
manifest. For controlled exotic snakes transported through Texas by common carrier, a bill of lading
shall function as a temporary permit during transit.
Permits are available at Texas Parks and Wildlife Department offices and wherever hunting and fishing licenses
are sold (aproximately 1,700 locations). There are no application requirements. For more information, call
(512) 389-4381, 1-800-792-1112 (option 9, then 4381), or go to http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/business/permits/
PENALTIES:
• Penalty for conviction for a violation of CESP rules is a Parks and Wildlife Class C misdemeanor
($25 – $500 fine).
• Penalty for conviction of releasing an affected snake from captivity is a Parks and Wildlife Class A
misdemeanor ($500 – $4,000 fine and/or one year in jail).
Persons convicted of a violation of CESP law may not obtain a permit for five years thereafter.
PWD PR L2000-1551 (2/08)
 
If you read

the original law as written, it does not define the indigenous parameters, nor does it specifically say for Texas. This could easily be challenged in court.
 
Here is the Form needed by all Commercial keepers....

PWD 1195 ........Does this mean if you buy one from me I can't buy it back unless you get a commerical permit???? :shrug01:
 

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Keith Northrop said:
PWD 1195 ........Does this mean if you buy one from me I can't buy it back unless you get a commerical permit???? :shrug01:
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Exactly...or trade or anything. I assume you may accept it as a bona fide gift, but I'd still have a copy of the owners $20 permit on file along with a receipt saying it was a gift due to the inability of the previous owner to maintain the snake in captivity.
 
Tim....."What are you saying?" are you throwing a wrench

Tim Cole said:
the original law as written, it does not define the indigenous parameters, nor does it specifically say for Texas. This could easily be challenged in court.
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in the Mix. I see from KS you had your permit on April 1? What's left to define?
Non-Indigenous .......A parameter in its self???
 
Indigenous to where?

Antarctica, Africa, North America? The way it was written before TP&W put it's spin on it, it was indicated to apply ONLY to snakes non-indigenous to the USA.
TP&W cannot change the law.
 
Well since it is a State issue, one would

assume this is about Texas??? Since when does Texas Laws ever apply out side of Texas??? Antarctica, Africa, North America? With Non-game pemits covering native venomous. It would only seem logical Non native venomous would be covered by the Exotic permit. That's Non native to "Texas" Not
South Florida...HaHa...Besides this would leave the group of Venomous USA indigenous in a void??? Unregulated.....
 
Keith Northrop said:
assume this is about Texas??? Since when does Texas Laws ever apply out side of Texas??? Antarctica, Africa, North America? With Non-game pemits covering native venomous. It would only seem logical Non native venomous would be covered by the Exotic permit. That's Non native to "Texas" Not
South Florida...HaHa...Besides this would leave the group of Venomous USA indigenous in a void??? Unregulated.....
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Actually, I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but the intent of the law - according to what I have been told by the "big guys" at TPWD is "exotic to the US." Not just exotic to Texas. You need it for a cobra, but not a red rattlesnake. Rd rattlesnakes are not regulated under this Texas permit. TPWD doesn't have the authority to regulate exoticsUNLESS there is a special law about it...and THIS particular law was intended to only apply to venomous NOT found within these United States naturally.

KJ
 
KJUN said:
Actually, I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but the intent of the law - according to what I have been told by the "big guys" at TPWD is "exotic to the US." Not just exotic to Texas. You need it for a cobra, but not a red rattlesnake. Rd rattlesnakes are not regulated under this Texas permit. TPWD doesn't have the authority to regulate exoticsUNLESS there is a special law about it...and THIS particular law was intended to only apply to venomous NOT found within these United States naturally.

KJ
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Exactly!
 
That doesn't sound Kosher.....

That makes No sense........To leave such a loophole........KJUN Who are these Big Boys at TPW that you spoke with???? HaHa :rofl:
 
Tim Cole said:
Antarctica, Africa, North America? The way it was written before TP&W put it's spin on it, it was indicated to apply ONLY to snakes non-indigenous to the USA.
TP&W cannot change the law.
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Tim where can one find the law as written before TP&W put their spin on it??

Chuck
 
Here you go...

This link takes you to the original HB 1309 where it does say "indigenous to the country"...
Hb 1309

This is an exerpt from HB 12 which it was added to.

"SUBCHAPTER V. NONINDIGENOUS SNAKE PERMIT
Sec. 43.851. PERMIT. (a) The commission by rule shall establish permits that allow permit holders to possess or transport in this state a live nonindigenous:
(1) venomous snake; or
(2) constrictor that is one of the following:
(A) African rock python, Python sebae;
(B) Asiatic rock python, Python molurus;
(C) green anaconda, Eunectes murinus;
(D) reticulated python, Python reticulatus; or
(E) southern African python, Python natalensis.
(b) The commission shall establish separate permits for recreational and commercial purposes.
(c) A permit under this subchapter is not required for:
(1) a state or county official performing an official "

Notice, it does not set the parameters.
 
That changes Nothing! If you take the.....

context of the paragraph you will conclude that "Country" is Indicative to "State". we are talking Texas Law.
 
You are ASSUMING

and you know where that will get you. Contrary to what most Texans think, Texas is a State not a Country! LOL
 
Keith Northrop said:
context of the paragraph you will conclude that "Country" is Indicative to "State". we are talking Texas Law.
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Yes we are talking about state law. HOWEVER in the state law it says 'country' in black and white in 1309 which failed. HB 12 has passed so far and does not say from where. I'm with Tim on this, coule be fought in court. Is it our fault the guy who wrote this got a 'D' in his English Composition class in college???I'm not going to argu with a loop hole the size of Texas, Just relish in it.....

Chuck
 
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