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The truth about Blue tegus!!

shrap said:
Instead of a providing any info you refer to me as an unfriendly troll that is attacking you personally. Where you got all of that from my simple request for information about Blue Tegus is beyond me.
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Perhaps he has made statements that he cannot backup.

Perhaps this making statements that he cannot back up has embarrassed him.

Perhaps this embarrassment has angered him.

Perhaps this anger has caused him to project his shortcomings on others who merely seek the truth.

I hope not, but perhaps such is true.
 
Well get ready guys, there is more yet to come. This crap has been hidden way too long. Everyone asks why I do not breed them, well this is why.
 
Also, I cannot see why anyone would breed for albinos in these animals. They know they require UV lighting, why does the animal need to suffer?
 
varnyard said:
Also, I cannot see why anyone would breed for albinos in these animals. They know they require UV lighting, why does the animal need to suffer?
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On this one I have to take the other side Bobby. There has always been an interest in unusual animals. As long as that interest is there someone will breed to produce unusual animals and there is nothing inherently wrong with this.

There may well be a way, I don't know how, to keep these albinos alive and healthy. Just because you personally don't like it does not make it wrong nor give you the right to sya those who do are less than you.

IF they were misrepresenting these animals or making claims they cannot backup, then that would make them wrong, but merely producing animals you don't like does not make someone a bad guy.

Saying you've produced snows and then tucking tail and running away, THAT could be construed as a large step on the bath to becoming a bad guy, but it's too early as yet to tell if that is what has happened here.

You may want to, and I sincerely hope you do, back down a tad on this Bobby.

rick, I'm still waiting on you to prove what you have claimed.
 
Wes,

Are you after Riverside Reptiles because of his statement or because you think he is me?

You end your post with...

rick, I'm still waiting on you to prove what you have claimed.
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You then join my website and ask me to prove I produced snows and posted a thread back here.

I never claimed I have produced snows.

Rick
 
SiscoReptiles said:
Wes,

Are you after Riverside Reptiles because of his statement or because you think he is me?

You end your post with...



You then join my website and ask me to prove I produced snows and posted a thread back here.

I never claimed I have produced snows.

Rick
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Well while you are here, lets have your expert opinion. Is there such a thing as a true Snow tegu?
 
SiscoReptiles said:
Wes,

Are you after Riverside Reptiles because of his statement or because you think he is me?

You end your post with...



You then join my website and ask me to prove I produced snows and posted a thread back here.

I never claimed I have produced snows.

Rick
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Riverside Reptiles.

I had NO idea there was another Rick involved.

Is riverside reptiles the same rick who deleted my posts? If he is then you've got problems on your site. If he isn't, then you've got my appology for not realizing you're two different people.

I'll wait until I hear from you, Sisco Reptiles, before I proceed.
 
Wes,

Ron posted above as Riverside Reptiles.

Rick is the one who deleted your posts over on thetegu. As is the norm over there.
 
Wes,

I am not Riverside Reptiles.

You joined my site just to demand proof from me for something that I did not say. You made a wrong assumption. You posted your post in an existing thread and it should have been made in a new topic.

I send you a PM explaining why it was removed and told you specifically it should have been in a new topic.

I then joined the topic here, which you linked to, and I responded that I was not Riverside Reptiles.

You then still made further posts on my site regarding it.

I will call it a misunderstanding and let it go. Even though I was not involved in this thread I was still drawn into it. I see how touchy this BOI can really be. Perhaps riverside reptiles was correct in is comments about people trolling on here.

Rick

Rick
 
SiscoReptiles said:
I see how touchy this BOI can really be. Perhaps riverside reptiles was correct in is comments about people trolling on here.

Rick

Rick
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Except for the fact that this thread isnt located in the BOI.

Things are touchy if people make false claims. or ones they cant back up, such is the nature of this site. Far too much scum has been taken down. Maybe some are just too used to the "routine" and can tell when something is fishy.

Most honest people will be able to back their claims up, providing pictures and other such things to prove their stance. We have yet to see that here.
 
Rick, I am terrible with names. I thought Riverside was run by a guy name of rick.

Sorry about that.

e. m. allen, you have made claims that I would like to see proof of.

Can you prove that you have produced snow tegus?
 
Wilomn said:
Rick, I am terrible with names. I thought Riverside was run by a guy name of rick.

Sorry about that.

e. m. allen, you have made claims that I would like to see proof of.

Can you prove that you have produced snow tegus?
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i always find it amusing when people will make a claim here, and then when the water gets too hot... run away. Go figure eh?
:rolleyes:
 
Wilomn,

Appology accepted.

Now, since Bobby is making the claim that there is no such thing as a snow tegu. That snows are just a light albino (which I may agree with as a matter of my opinion) isn't the burden of proof upon Bobby to prove what he is stating as fact?

I have tried to prove beyond all doubt that the snow was just a light albino, but I have been unable to prove that it is anything more than my opinion. I have heard people say this and say that.. but really.. I'd love to see the proof.

Rick
 
SiscoReptiles said:
Wilomn,

Appology accepted.

Now, since Bobby is making the claim that there is no such thing as a snow tegu. That snows are just a light albino (which I may agree with as a matter of my opinion) isn't the burden of proof upon Bobby to prove what he is stating as fact?

I have tried to prove beyond all doubt that the snow was just a light albino, but I have been unable to prove that it is anything more than my opinion. I have heard people say this and say that.. but really.. I'd love to see the proof.

Rick
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You bet, there has never been any Melanistic blue tegus at all, if so then by all means show us Rick.
 
http://thetegu.com/postx5203-0-0.html
SiscoReptiles, I realize there was a fairly small group of animals originally obtained, but there is no proof or evidence that those animals were even related. This whole "albinos in blues are from sever inbreeding" is crap since albinos were produced in only a few seasons of breeding. This means that if all of the blues that Ron obtained were all directly related, that every single one carry the albino gene from the wild? If this is the case, why is the tegu market not flooded by albinos?
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SiscoReptiles, I am sure there is some inbreeding, just like there is with almost any other reptile out there.
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So you agree it was a small group of animals?
 
You have proof of a Melanistic blue tegu? You must have them to produce true Snows, there never were any, not one.
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Are there any Anerythristic Blue Tegus or Axanthic Blue Tegus? Normally to make a Snow you would breed an Anery/Axanthic to an Albino, creating Double Hets, then breed the Double Hets to each other. So unless there have been Double Hets created that way, there cannot be a Snow Tegu unless there was a wild caught Snow imported from the wild (slim chance but it's possible).
 
I'm beginning to think that ol b.m. allen there is full of crap.

He has read this thread, he has seen the questions and he has refused to provide the proof of his claim.

I smell TUNA, bigtime.
 
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