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Well, My male that I had gotten a while back was perfectly fine, and all of a sudden started to act a bit, funny. And eventully lost ALOT of weight. I took him to the vet and he said that he had a TERRIBLE case of parasites. Even though he knew he wouldnt make it we tryed treatment. After his death, dispite my efforts, we got the ladies checked out. Now its breeding time for them again and ever since the male has not been around they to, are not normal. The female housed with him, clear of parasites completly stopped eating and even when made to eat, vomited once back in her cage, she to has died, even after a vet visit when all they could see was wrong was that she wasnt eating. So now in an effort to correct my beautiful girls, and have a male for breeding this year I am looking for a nice male. Nothing amazing is needed, any morph is fine, as long as the price isnt to large. shipping is a killer now..


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Thank You,

Shea
 
I wouldn't introduce any new geckos to your geckos now. You have just had two die and the others have been exposed to the ones that were ill. What parasites did they have? I would also just throw out the cage you had those two in as well. If they had crypto there is no point even trying to clean it. Crypto also does not show up on regular fecals. Whatever it is it is contagous since two have died already.

Trust me the girls do not need a male, almost all of mine are housed without males.
You also shouldn't breed untill you are sure the other geckos have not been infected.
Sometime diseases can incubate for awile before showing any signs. Crypto and maybe coccidia are two I can think of that would cause fast deaths. Did the vet give you any idea what they had?
 
the male died a month ago, the girls have been treated just incase. and they actully had another check up today, once the male showed signs of wieght decresing i moved him
 
QUOTE=Shea<3Leo]the male died a month ago, the girls have been treated just incase. and they actully had another check up today, once the male showed signs of wieght decresing i moved him[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...you posted here that you had a male die in the end of february of mild parasites. So thats three from parasites since the end of february? You really shouldn't get anymore.

What were they treated for? Like I said before some things do not show up on fecals. You need to have an acid stain, or a neoscropy of the deceased.
And it doesn't matter if you seperated them after he showed signs they were exposed. Why expose more if you don't know what they have/had?
 
And just so you know, The female that died, DID NOT die of Parasites, she was checked and treated along with the others, and when she begain loosing weight, she was checked again,still NO parasites. The vet said she just appeared to not be eating, To my best effort to feed her, she would vomit it up.
 
Sounds like a diesease. Vet didn't know what it was?? Dang...I would personally seperate everybody for a few months. JMO
 
wel the girls have been for a few days. The vet told me bu ill have to ask him again i completly forgot
 
No one is trying to badger you, everyone here is just trying to get down to the point of what the vet actually found and see why you are having trouble with your leos. Until then and till the point that you are able to not loose anymore for whatever reason I personally would not introduce any more anywhere near the ones you have for at least 3-4 months if not longer. It would be in the best interest for them :) Good luck and please let us know what the vet said. Shanell.
 
Shea-
I think maybe it might be worth finding a new vet. If you want to PM or email me, I can recommend an excellent vet in the area.
 
The male may have been infected with more than one type of parasite and there are no available medications that work on all parasites.

Worms / nematodes are among the easiest parasites to detect and treat. Pancur is the drug of choice due to it's wide margin of safety.

Most protozoans are treated with Flagyl, Pancur wouldn't work.

Coccidia is harder to detect in a fecal and requires treatment with Albon.

Crypto parasites are not reliably detected in standard fecals. A gastric lavage and the application of an acid fast stain yield the best results. There are some experimental treatments, but I'm not sure how widely available they are or how effective they are on leos. Crypto infections are not uncommon in petstore geckos and are highly contagious.

If your male was infected with a combination of worms and crypto, for example, it would be very probable that the worms were detected and the crypto missed. Since the females were also treated, they could seem to have clean fecals since they too would be worm free. Regurgitation and anorexia are both common symptoms of parasitic infections, that's why everyone is so concerned.

If the females are not acting normally, they should not be subjected to the stresses of breeding. A gecko can be shedding parasite eggs etc. in the feces long before they start showing symptoms of infection and pass them to their cagemates during this period. I would recommend housing all of your remaining geckos individually on paper towels so that you can easily monitor poos and regurges (runny poos = problems). This way you could also monitor food intake. I would maintain these conditions for 90 days. If at the end of those 90 days, everyone is healthy and eating normally and of breeding weight, you could put them back together and consider adding a new male. Any new leos (the new male) should also be subjected to a 90 day quarantine to protect your females from anything he might be carrying.

Good luck,
Alice
 
As everyone has said above (especially Alice, great job there, very informative!), a parasitical infection is not to be taken lightly. Also, breeding can stress even healthy animals and make them more prone to infections. You should not rush breeding.

The title to this thread makes it seem like you are desperate to acquire a male to breed to your females. This puts warning flags up in my head. If you have to miss a breeding season to ensure that your animals are healthy and free of parasites, then so be it. Leopard geckos are exceptionally fertile creatures. Sacrificing one season is certainly a lot better than losing your females because of your eagerness.

I know it's sometimes hard to make the call, but if there is any doubt over your animals' well-being, then you should wait. You should not risk the lives of any more geckos until ALL your animals have been quarantined and given a clean bill of health from a qualified reptile veterinarian. I'm not accusing your veterinarian of anything, but most veterinarians are trained for mammals, not reptiles. Unfortunately there are no vets in my area that have been trained for treating reptile ailments. You should definitely ask for a second opinion with that vet someone else has suggested in here (can't remember who offered the info). Second opinions never hurt.
 
Wow, this whole thread seems so familiar.

Shea, I'd also suggest waiting to breed your animals. At the beginning of this year all my geckos suffered exposure from crypto from an animal out of a pet store. I ended up losing my entire collection of 8 geckos. They refused to eat and eventually all were put down. I threw away everything I was using and bought all new enclosures for everyone. breeding healthy leos is the number 1 priority in this hobby. Not breeding as fast as you can. I ended up waiting for 4 months just to be sure my house was free of crypto to get any more leos.
 
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