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Update on Dave Lawson Situation

Dave and Ron
Neil and dave
the webslave flexing his digital brawn
Oh and lets not forget rumors
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the topic is?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?
Hey Neil shouldn't you just e-mail Dave?<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?
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This thread is about Ronald Allen's transaction with Dave Lawson.  If anyone has anything to say about this transaction, then please feel free to do so.

If someone is interested in knowing anything else about either two persons under a difference circumstance, please feel free to start a new thread about it.  Do not assume that the mention of anyone's name in any thread is an invitation to go off on an infinite number of tangents there.

My 'delete' trigger finger is getting itchy again.

Maybe I should set up an entire forum just concerning Dave Lawson and Neil Gubitz.
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I just responded to another thread concerning Ron Allen. Someone asked if he was a good business man, I said no then they responded as not likeing my answer, Well right here is an example!!
    Ron you are not a trustwothy person!  You have scamed alot in your day.  Sending the snakes to a third party are you deaf and dumb to this action.  That in itself proves the whole point!!  Ok, then what guarantee are YOU giving to the woman who sent them back?  Her money back? <img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>   Think about this ok.  Once you sold to someone else all of Dave's responsibility to the animal is done!
    I find it humorous how you post and complain about everyone else when you have some pretty shady business dealings yourself, not paying for auctions, saying you sent the money when you didn't, not answering e-mails or calls.
   If need to get with the program before you complain about anyone else!
   All I can say is Neil, if you are coaching Ron or anything else for that matter it tell of what kind of person you are.  Really to even be associated with him.

Just my opinion!

Torie Miller
 
Torie...this sentence...

...All I can say is Neil, if you are coaching Ron or anything else for that matter it tell of what kind of person you are.  Really to even be associated with him....

Except for a couple of emails, I wouldn't know Ron if I fell over him! When he contacted me for my help in this matter, he still refused to tell me who was involved (that's why I posted the second thread...to get him to tell us) and all I told him was to tell the truth and post all emails and any proof he might have....that's it!! I didn't know about his past and I didn't ask! When someone from my area (or anywhere for that matter) asks for my help....I will gladly give it, with nothing expected in return!
Everything that Ron said in this post has been corroborated by a third party to me as being true! That's the only reason I got involved in the first place! I did my own asking around before I said anything, that's how I got the corroberation I did...If you read the first thread....when I posted it, I had NO IDEA who was involved....it wasn't till after I posted that thread, that Ron contacted me for the first time! It's just ironic that it turned out the way it did!
....Neil
 
It has finally gotten to this point unfortunately. And I will sum these past few pages up in one sentence.

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Ok Neil I'll bite, who is this third party ? You should post a name and if you are not willing than you should not have mentioned it.
 
Jesus so what I'm finding out here is that anywhere on this boi, if Neil or Dave's name is even mentioned, they use it as an excuse to start another flame war.  This is pathetic.  I was probably guilty of instigating problems myself, and to the rest of the BOI I'll admit that I was out of line like so many others who threw in their 2 cents.  I wanna get out a couple of points here, then I'll end this.

Neil, you've went from a respected member of this site to being this site's biggest hipocrite.  I KNOW that you're loosing business from the way you acted here which is evident by the dozen's of emails that i received when people responded to a post of mine on this thread.  You think that you're internet business is doing fine but you dont realize that the repurcussions of your 120 page dietribe from hell will take months to pan out and probably years for people to change their opinion of you.

Dave, you were never a respected member of this site, but you proved points in your posts that were fairly imnportant.  However, there's not a lot of people here who believe that you're an honest guy, so give it a rest and don't start this war up again everytime Neil writes something about you because not many people here believe him either, so its not worth it.

Basically after this tirade, alls I want to say to the both of you is PLEASE GIVE IT UP.  This child like fighting definately hurt the BOI and probably destroyed both of your reputations.  

I could say with confidence that a good idea would be to see if you guys could not tear into each other for 2 weeks, that's all we ask.  And if you can't help but write negative things about each other and ruin your reputations more, I say we start a fund up to open a NEW REPTILE STORE in your area and put BOTH of your a$$es outta business.
 
This thread has reminded me of a classic phrase from our time that is so perfect here,
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I will agree with that if a thread or post does not concern a person then they should stay out of it.But it seems that if my name is mentioned in anyway Neil will come running to slander me or he will con someone else into doing it with his coaching and yes it is the snowball theory once it starts it gets bigger and bigger.Neil is and has been going out of his way to bad mouth me here and to customers at his store.So what I have decided to do is use his own tactics against him. For example ,on his website he is selling a hypo-everglades rat snake as a proven breeder,well I sold Neil that snake in April of this year and I got it as a baby.That snake is nat a breeder and has never bred.But I am sure that the spin doctor Neil will say otherwise and some of you may believe it.I have tried to let all this drama drop but it seems Neil like it.

Neil,a couple questions:

1)why won't you post the name of the third party you mentioned?

2)why did you have the post on kingsnake removed? you know the ones where you were selling all those burms for your friends that had to move out of state.It seems funning how some of those snake fit the discripion of snake stolen last week not far from you.The add was there on boas and pythons and now both are gone.Strange
 
I am opening up a new thread on the BOI called "Dave Lawson vs Neil Gubitz".  BOTH of you can continue your public conversation THERE and no where else. Do NOT let it spill over into every other thread on this board where anyone even hints at one or both of your names.

I am EXTREMELY busy right now, and if it will make my life easier to just ban both of you from posting here, believe me, that is exactly what I will do.

In case there is any doubt in what I have said above:  NO NOT CONTINUE YOUR BICKERING IN THIS THREAD!
 
After everything that has been put on this forum, true or not, anyone seeing how Neil and Dave respond to and handle the situations with name calling, unprofessional behavior and other miscellaneous immature garbage, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH EITHER OF THEM? There are plenty of great, established, competent people in this business. Anyone looking for animals has plenty of places to turn without having to support either of these guys. Evan Stahl
 
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