| Author | Subject: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder < |
| Sande | Posted At 16:40:03 05/20/2001
Can anyone recommend Joe Polanco and his emeralds? Thanks, Sande |
| Jim |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3469.html Posted At 19:08:04 05/20/2001 Joe Polanco is one of those people that you would best stay away from. He is known to be dishonest and "inventive" at times. He is responsible for the shutdown of the treeboa forum on kingsnake.com after he was removed from the site after making a racial slur aimed at another treeboa breeder. He then attempted to sue kingsnake.com for removing him even though it is a private site. Do yourself a favor and keep far away from this individual. Jim Roper |
| Trooper Walsh |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3470.html Posted At 19:12:46 05/20/2001 I've known Joe for almost 25 years and he is still a legend in his own mind. I personally would not care to deal with the man. Trooper Walsh |
| Danny Mendez |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3471.html Posted At 19:24:07 05/20/2001 Joe is one of the biggest frauds in the industry today. He has never truly bred any emerald tree boas, instead simply purchases gravid females and sells the offspring. He claims to have been in the "industry" for a trillion years but no one has ever really recalled any dealings with him. As Trooper Walsh, a herpetologist with decades of TRUE experience has attested on a post above, this individual has a vivid image of himself that no one else can really recall or back up. This individual had tried numerous times to engage SEVERAL companies and organizations such as kingsnake.com in frivelous lawsuits in an attemtp to jockey a better postion for himself. Do yourself a favor and stay as far away from him as possible. Although I am no longer engaged in the commercial sale of treeboas if you email me privately I can direct you to a more qualified individual if you are looking for a nice specimen. Danny Mendez 973-455-0202 |
| Ken Harbart |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3472.html Posted At 20:16:57 05/20/2001 I personally couldn't have said it any better than Trooper, Danny, and Jim. |
| Mike Heinrich |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3480.html Posted At 22:57:03 05/20/2001 I know Joe very well, and I can say without hesitation that you won't be dissappointed in any animals you acquire from him. Joe's one of the most proffessional men in the business, and he backs up what he sells. I would challenge these previous posters to produce valid complaints by someone who actually has purchased animals from Joe, you won't find any. I'm partners with Joe in some breeding projects and I've witnessed first hand how he deals with people and I can tell you this; you won't find many people as helpful and giving of their time than this man. I don't personally know any of these other guys, but have heard tons of complaints by people who've purchased from Mendez. These guys talk about forums closing down, but appearently Trooper doesn't read rules/terms of service very well; it says in bold red letters that you must use a VALID EMAIL ADDRESS with any message posted, what's the deal TW? One other thing, (although it doesn't have anything to do with your initial inquiry) the racial slur Jim mentioned wasn't even a racial slur, it was the word "chalupa" which is Spanish for "boat" or "launch", it was used by Joe in a post to Danny. Both Joe and Danny are Hispanic, so how do you call that a racial slur? Ken Harbart, how do you even fit into this picture? Have you bought emeralds (or anything else) from Joe? |
| Jim |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3481.html Posted At 23:28:00 05/20/2001 I think some clarification is in order. This inquiry was on the integrity of Joe Polanco, not on any of the people posting their opinions here (ie, Trooper, Danny or Ken). It should be noted that Mike H (having a financial stake in Joe Polanco as stated above in his post) always comes to Joe's defense using the tactic of deflecting towards other people, namely Danny Mendez. I think it's time for people to grow up and stop trying to pass the buck. See other posts on this forum from Mid march which will further drive the point home regarding Joe Polanco's "professional" attitiude, namely with regards to the Arboreal Classifieds a forums C0-run with Mike H. Racial Slur: A negative and often offensive connotation regarding one's ethnic origin, regardless of the cultural relationship of the offender. Being hispanic (if he really is, I've heard many claims on behalf of Mr. Polanco) does not give ANYONE the right to make offensive comments aimed at anyone else's ethnicity. That's just immature and downright LOW. Jim |
| John Hedger |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3482.html Posted At 23:42:34 05/20/2001 I bought one CB Amazon tree boa from Joe Polanco awhile back. He was honest about the fact that it was not produced by himself and willingly told me the name of the breeder,etc.. The snake was honestly represented, very healthy & pretty, and has thrived. I would probably buy from him again if he had something I really wanted. Probably those baby emeralds he has recently had for sale are fine... Joe is mainly an emerald hobbyist/collector himself and as yet (as far as I know)an unproven breeder. Emeralds, however are a very tough animal to breed with regularity and most of Joe's collection has only been acquired over the last couple of years. So, of course we have yet to see if he will breed them(!). I have noticed that his advertisements are somewhat slanted as such as to often give one the impression that he is or could be the breeder...but alot of other people do the same. Perhaps a 10 year old could be fooled, but I think it is usually pretty easy to tell who the true breeders are and who the wheeler dealers are in this business(most of the time! Do your research!). In spite of that point, however,I have never known or heard of Joe purposely misrepresenting the health or condition of a snake he is selling. I think he is generally honest in those respects. I want to say also, personally, I don't like what Joe Polanco did (or tried to do)to Jeff Barringer and Kingsnake. I really liked the Tree Boa forum and feel it is a shame (in spite of all it's flaws)that the Tree Boa Forum no longer exists as a sharing of information on these facinating and beautiful boas. I rarely go on Joe's forum anymore (and I'm sure he could care less!)because of the resentment I have about what happened with Kingsnake. Joe, you really messed up there with all those selfserving lawsuits! It's a damn shame!!! John Hedger |
| Mike H. |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3484.html Posted At 23:46:31 05/20/2001 Jim, good point, you said "I think some clarification is in order. This inquiry was on the integrity of Joe Polanco", the inquiry was regarding Joe and his emeralds, not his forum conduct. My challenge still stands, produce some "real people with real names and real email addresses" who have purchased animals form Joe and who have been less than satisfied with his services or products. And NO, I don't have a financial stake in defending Joe, his reputation with emeralds has nothing at all to do with the projects he and I are involved with. As for your description of this racial slur, let's say you and I were in some European country and you did something funny and I called you a "hot dog", that would be a racial slur? That's basically equivelent to what happened. |
| Trooper Walsh |
This ones for Mike Heinrich
3486.html Posted At 00:20:43 05/21/2001 Sorry Mike...was listing my KS e-mail account which I rarely use and I messed up on the addie. Is fixed now. And I still think Joe is a legend in his own mind and don't care to do business with him. Glad you like doing business with Joe, hope for your sake it doesn't turn sour but would be suprized if it didn't in time. Best of luck to you...TW<< |
| Buddy Goetzger |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3488.html Posted At 06:45:53 05/21/2001 I have had dealings with Joe regarding Emerald Tree Boas and have no complaints. To my knowledge, I'm unaware of anyone who has had problems with Joe regarding animals that he has sold. That is the issue here, Correct? |
| Joe P. |
From the object of your affection.
3489.html Posted At 07:25:55 05/21/2001 In my own defense, I’ll just reiterate the statements of the only people posting here who have actually done business with me. I am totally unaware of anyone with whom I have had any business dealings, be it with regard to snakes, computers or otherwise, that has ever been left with a feeling of less than complete gratification. I advertise truthfully, never attempting to mislead and give a complete satisfaction guarantee. I want people to know that they have been treated as I would want to be treated were I the customer. Like everyone who has posted here that has actually done business with me has said, “If there is a person who was less than completely satisfied” I would URGE them strongly to post that here. Those individuals who have chosen to defame and flame my character here (with the exception of Danny Mendez), do so because of personality issues, or philosophical differences. None of them know me (including Trooper Walsh), the majority have never had any contact with me, and no not one has ever done business with me. Danny Mendez chimes in, as usual, in an effort to distract from the real issues surrounding his business dealings. For me and many others who he has chosen to rip-off in just the past 3 years (of which I am aware), this is business as usual where he is concerned. I had the misfortune, and bad judgement of choosing to purchase a pair of animals from him, contrary to what I had heard. I guess I am at least guilty of utter stupidity in that event. If you have purchased from me, and have a problem, please, post it here for anyone to read. If not, and I feel certain that NOT will be the order of the day, keep your personal assessments of my character to yourselves. Unless such information is requested, I see no point in rehashing what already has become common knowledge. You guys don’t like me. Gee, that’s upsetting. I just hope people who want quality animals, from a person who walks the walk don’t become distracted by your BS. As always at your disposal. Jose’ Manuel Polanco Ruiz P.S. Jim Roper – Porque no te pones a comer esa misma mirda que estas tratando de vender aqui? P.S. Ken Habart – Who the hell are you? |
| Dave Torro |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3490.html Posted At 07:33:51 05/21/2001 In my dealings with Joe Polanco, he has always been extremely helpful, quick to respond to any E mails of inquiry, and never heard of anyone who has had problems with Joe regarding animals that he has sold. DTbull |
| Buddy Goetzger |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3491.html Posted At 08:04:44 05/21/2001 After re-reading the above posts, I feel it necessary to share some of my feelings publicly, which I never ever do. Joe has been a friend of mine for approximately one year. We talk often about animals, family and life. We disagree on many things, but have a mutual respect and understanding for each others feelings. None of us are perfect and neither is Joe, nor does he pretend to be. I personally don't get caught up in all the crap that gets flung around on these forums. The people that do, "in my opinion", have way too much time on there hands. If you really know Joe as a person and don't care for him - then so be it! But don't slander the guy based on having opinions that may differ from yours or rumors that may have been spread by someone that is insecure in themselves. Give the freakin guy a break! He's a good man who shares the same passion for life and these beautiful animals as we all do! |
| John Staursky |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3494.html Posted At 09:25:25 05/21/2001 Sande, I do not personnaly know any of these people either, but i have heard that Joe has nice quality animals and great customer service from people who have actually purchased animals from him... and that's all that counts to me. Some people are just followers and they like to get there 2 cents in where they can. In reptile dealings, even people with the best reputation can still be labeled a bad guy by anyone. I know a few people with so called "big time" status that i wouldn't spend $2.00 with. John Staursky |
| Belinda Binkley |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3498.html Posted At 15:18:08 05/21/2001 To whom it may concern; Though I have never made an actual purchase from Joe Polanco, he has been a very valuable source of guidance and advice for me (many times at his own expense though his 800#). I have a collection of 11 Amazon tree boas, some CB some WC and Joe has patiently walked me though numerous health and breeding issues. I would have to give credit to Joe for the success of several of my imported ATB's. He has never played "GOD" and acted as though he knew everything but he has shared his experience and my collection has benefitted from that information. I would completely feel comfortable purchasing an animal from Joe. For somebody being accused of not actually ever breeding anything, he sure gave good advice on getting mine to breed. Sincerely, Belinda Binkley |
| Tom Burns |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3499.html Posted At 15:29:29 05/21/2001 Although I've never done business with Joe, I've had numerous internet interactions with him & have found him to be a really nice guy who has a real passion for arboreal boids. He takes a great deal of pride in his very impressive collection & has about a gazillion photos that prove it. If my concern was in the quality of the animal, I would comfortably do business with him... |
| Tim Robbins |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3501.html Posted At 15:58:32 05/21/2001 I made a purchase from Joe just about a month ago.He sold me excatly what was in the ad.The snake looked just like the photo.The snake was shipped when he said it would be shipped,and he was in perfect shape.Joe was very quick to answer all the questions that I had,and was very professional.I could'nt have been happier.In fact, I plan to make another purchase from him before to long.Anyone planning to buy from Joe Polanco, don't hesitate. Tim |
| anthony napoli |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3502.html Posted At 16:10:38 05/21/2001 I dont know if anyone else noticed this or not, everytime someone say's something nice about Joe, with in 10 minutes someone else does too. This thread could be dead for hour's and then with in 15 minutes 2 people have written great thing's about him. That's a little fishy to me. Anthony |
| brian lebanik |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3503.html Posted At 16:14:34 05/21/2001 i have purchased from Joe P. and am completly satisfied. about 4 months ago i was working in cinn. ohio.i saw an ad for a captive born emerald(columbo).i called him and went to see it 2 hours later.needless to say i purchased the animal from him.he honestly represented the animal in every way!! He has since helped me secure a male mate for her,from another vendor!!! I believe joe to be a helpful, honest, and sincere individual.He has helped me numerous times with all 5 of my emeralds. just my oppinion,from someone who has purchased from him. brian L |
| Tim B. |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3504.html Posted At 16:44:31 05/21/2001 I havent been lurking around the web for very long so I missed out on the history behind these "disagreements" of sorts. Aside from the Joe's right to be as selfconfident or arrogant or "a legend in his own mind" what ever you want to call, whats the harm in that. Its his life. Let him live it his way. As for never truely breeding an emerald, so what, thier are dealers all over this internet who NEVER breed but only sell babies of all sorts of back ground. Its called BUSINESS not fraud. He always represents them as they are, and if you think I'm wrong please show me the proof. Lawsuites, well get used to them thats the American way. Just look at a court docket and see all the dumb lawsuites that have been choking our system for years. If he or anyone wants to bring one, go for it, its your rights to do so. Doesnt mean that I agree with it but it is your rights. I dont really know any of you personally, even Joe P. for that matter. So I am a real third party observer who needs more info than what was provided, because data and hard facts are what makes up a good gripe. Aside from the KS suite is thier any? If not, then leave the man alone and get over it. Move on and or get a life. In the grand scheme of life Joe is but a small minute particle. Sorry Joe, your not the grand pooba after all. Hate to break it to this way. Please give verifiable factual data to disprove him or leave him alone. |
| Tom Burns |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3505.html Posted At 16:50:57 05/21/2001 Hey Anthony, some of us work during the day... |
| brian lebanik |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3507.html Posted At 18:01:50 05/21/2001 if it's so fishy,try the emails.unlike the person who started the thread,the emails are real. not to mention som of us have lives and children. |
| Jeff Craven |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3508.html Posted At 18:59:28 05/21/2001 Well Sande, you probably didn't know that you were going to open a can of worms this big! I wasn't even going to write but I couldn't resist. I too have not purchased any animals from Joe...YET, but have had several dealings with him through his forum board. He has been helpful and quite informative on elementary matters that many experienced breeders would find too trivial to spend there time on. I have been keeping various species of snakes for about 15 years and recently made the jump to arboreals. I found it refreshing that he was willing to answer questions without trying to sell me anything. I have also read papers by Danny Mendez and found them equally informative. My only advice to Sande is to try to sort through the emotions posted here and look for facts. I would do this by privately emailing a few of the "pros" and "cons" and ask for specific details. |
| Ryan Morris |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3517.html Posted At 23:18:19 05/21/2001 I have delt with Joe a few times with Emeralds, and amazons. I have never had a problem with his snakes. Well, I have once, but it was barely noticeablt. He had a tiny scar on the under side of his tail. It ate fine, stool samples show no signs of worms, and It is healthy now. Both of them are great. Thanks for the wonderfls snakes Joe. |
| Pete Olszewski |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3520.html Posted At 23:32:54 05/21/2001 I only know Joe from the tree boa fourm and have never purchased a snake from him. But his input to the fourm is very helpful, and I have not found any of his tree boas for sale post to be misleading in any way. Also the tns line of cages look fantastic and make any arboreal snake look great in. And I do enjoy alot of his post in the tree boa fourm, (Thank you Mike for making it possible) keep up the great work you two, and John Hedger the few post the you place in the forum are very educational hope to see you there more often. Best Regards, Pete |
| Trooper Walsh |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3532.html Posted At 09:13:58 05/22/2001 >>Well dang, Joe...perhaps you can teach an old dog new tricks (we're the same age, who's the dog?). You certainly have a following of faithful supporters - you empty your address book getting them to post here - ?...LOL...!. And our mutual buddy whom I respect a lot, Buddy G, tells me you're actually a nice guy? Wow. Hmmmmmmm. I concede there could be something to all this, and I'm willing to look beyond my limited, unfavorable experiences with you...will try to focus on the good things you are doing for folks and critters these days...reserve my forked tongue about the past, as appropriate. So go for it, Joe - keep up the good work...!...maybe one day we can share drinks and a laugh or two. Hmmmmm...dunno. Not a Joe-hugger yet but I'm willing to bury the hatchet...offer you a personal apology for speaking out publically on my narrow views of you. So "woof"...?...TW<< |
| Joe P. |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3534.html Posted At 10:42:04 05/22/2001 To Trooper Walsh: It takes a certain type of individual to reach down and admit that their view on and issue or an individual may have been incorrect. Doubly so, when that individual is generally admired and believed to be beyond reproach. A very gutsy move on your part. I accept your comments as sincere and in good faith. I trust I'll continue to demonstrate those qualities which have brought so many of these kind comments out, and try not to disappoint. I hesitate to label your comments as an appology (not sure there was anything to appologize for), but will just say, thanks for offer to start over. I'ld like that. |
| Ken Harbart |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3537.html Posted At 11:16:27 05/22/2001 Likewise, I also feel that I owe Joe, and everyone else an apology. My experience with Joe was limited to philosophical differences earlier this year, and has no bearing whatsoever on the quality of his animals or customer service. My interjection in this thread was irrelevant and uncalled for. There are those who will no doubt claim that I am merely miming the actions and opinions of Trooper by apologizing. That's not the case- I don't personally know Trooper, and I can assure you that we arrived at our decisions independently. In closing...Joe, you asked who the hell I am- I'm no one of consequence, who just served himself a plate of crow. |
| Eu |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3549.html Posted At 17:11:14 05/22/2001 Trooper you came thru and showed yourself to be the class act you really are.And it was cool of you also Ken.anyone who`s followed Mike H`s treeboa forum knows that Joe and myself often see things at different ends of the spectrum but one thing I can say is I`ve never heard a single story about Joe P. doing somebody wrong when it comes to selling them an animal.Now I know Joe`s gotten screwed a few times but even then he`s given the person a chance to redeem themselfs.(if anything he`s been way to easy going)Joe likes to talk but the guy has a good heart that`s for sure. |
| Rob McRobbie |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3563.html Posted At 23:24:14 05/22/2001 All, I am just someone starting out in the ETB game and during my first conversation with Joe, I asked him his opinion on a certain ETB for sale in the Canadian Classifieds. He took the time to blow up the picture of the animal on his computer, inspect it the best he could and offer his opinion on the animal...An animal he wasn't even selling....Just shows his love for these green beauties and his willingness to help out... BTW... I purchased the animal based on his good judgement... And of course a little wishful thinking... Thx Joe for sharing your knowledge.. |
| Tony Nicoli |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3657.html Posted At 17:11:20 05/24/2001 Wow !!! What a responce. No, Joe didn't ask me to post a responce, but I thought I would anyway. Joe is a good friend of mine and as honest an individual as you will ever meet. His enthusiasm for his animals is amazing and his husbandry first rate. He gives of his time freely and asks for nothing in return. Joe and I talk often and from our discussions, it's apparent that he runs a tight ship. I would have no problem purchasing or exchanging animals w/ him. In fact, we will be doing a breeding project this year with the "Black" Emeralds. With the collection of animals Joe is putting together, it will only be a matter of time before Joe is producing amazing babies every year. |
| Bluegrass Herp - Kris Mays |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3714.html Posted At 09:18:20 05/25/2001 I know Joe from emails and the local swaps and he's a very informative person. If he had an animal I was interested in I wouldn't hesitate to purchase from him. Kris |
| John Hedger |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
3734.html Posted At 20:40:03 05/25/2001 For what it's worth...Upon rereading my previous post (and feeling some tinges of guilt in the last couple of days!) and then reviewing his advertisements I believe I WAS out of line when I said that his "advertisements are somewhat slanted as such as to often give one the impression that he is or could be the breeder". I believe I focused on that aspect because Sande's inquiry was titled "Joe Polanco, emerald breeder" which admittedly got me riled a bit. Joe does give credit to other breeders and it occurred to me also that when breeder's names are not specifically mentioned...some of the emerald and amazon breeders from which Joe purchases his emerald babies (or gravid females)might wish to remain anonymous for whatever reason. Polanco's adds and sales do serve to promote the buying and selling of captive born emeralds and I believe any wild caught animals he might put on the market are ones he has kept for himself for long term and for one reason or another has decided to sell. I do not really think of Joe as a "wheeler dealer" as I may have implied... Joe doesn't sell wildcaught junk as we all know many other careless brokers do. And Joe does care about customer satisfaction. Heck, he must have sent me a half dozen different digital pics of that amazon baby I bought from him!!I do agree with Buddy Goetzer that Joe has a real passion for his emeralds although I too have often disagreed with Joe's philosophies about handling & keeping emeralds...but that is beside the point...I'm sure Joe goes out of his way often to give many beginner's and newbies good,sound advice for their problems. Another thing I wanted to mention ...when I went over to Joe's house to pick up my snake....his cages were squeaky clean..most of them had waterfalls which I liked. All in all it was a very serious arboreal emerald collection. There was more than one animal that I had to constrain myself from drooling over! He seems to be doing the right thing, buying CB Basin & Suriname emeralds and taking the time and patience to grow them up (and they DO take time and patience!!)... I hope him all the best in future breeding efforts and will applaude his successes! I believe that my original post was mostly favorable and factual and, because it was not contested by Joe, I would guess he felt the same. I just got a bit off on personal gripes, having nothing to do with the inquiry. Sorry to all! While I may or may not have any future dealings with Joe and may or may not post my thoughts on his and Mike's forum (*actually, I did today...Hmm!LOL*) I do not favor burning any bridges in this business...do not wish Joe or anyone else any ill will, and hope there are no hard feelings either way. If there are Joe, I appologise. Sincerely, John Hedger |
| Dan Atkinson |
Re: Inquiry on Joe Polanco> emerald tree breeder <
4592.html Posted At 05:42:53 06/16/2001 This is a good reason WHY I hate these places. As I have said in a few, posts in the past. Anyone can post here. They can say what ever they want to, and it dose not have to be true. Which means there’s allot of BS that fly’s in these places, and bad folks are shown up. That’s great, but good folks are also harassed and screwed by anyone that wants to put in the time to type. I think that kind of sucks. As far as Joe P. goes we have done many, many deals for thousands of dollers over the past 2-3 years. ALL OF OUR DEALS HAVE GONE VERY SMOOTH. Except when I take to long to ship out. J But as far as Joe goes. If someone is complaining about his character I’ll bet,. no im sure there is another side to the story. He has some great emmys, I would buy from him or recommend him to anyone. In fact I do. Just my 2 cents Dan Atkinson |