John Staursky(good or bad guy?)

Author Subject: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
Jesse Garcia Posted At 21:59:30 05/30/2001
Has anyone dealt with John? I have the oppurtunity to do some business with him and would like to know the pros and cons. Thanks, Jesse
George Maloney Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3927.html Posted At 23:10:39 05/30/2001

Well gee, I dunno. I just used the keyword search program here and came up with
56 matches for the name 'STAURSKY'. But who am I to suggest that you should use that?

HEY WEBMASTER!! You need to make that KEYWORD SEARCH button MUCH BIGGER!!
John Staursky Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3928.html Posted At 23:40:42 05/30/2001

George,
What is up your A$$? Give the guy a break, maybe he has never used this site before. Gee, you sem to have a lot of free time on your hands, amybe you should get a LIFE ha ha ha ha.
John Staursky (an a-hole with nice reptiles)
George Maloney Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3930.html Posted At 00:10:48 05/31/2001

So, you HAVE to have been to this site before to know what 'KEYWORD SEARCH' means?

Gimmie a break! I have to download this file over a modem and it's getting bigger by the
day. So do we need a new thread about everyone posted every couple of weeks? How many threads
exist about you allready? I can understand someone not wanting to scan down through all of
the threads here, but just popping in and typing in a message without even attempting to find out
if the guy you are interested in is already mentioned here is rather irresponsible, in my opinion.

Maybe the webmaster can make up another one of his famous rules by making someone check the search
program first before posting here? Sooner or later he's going to figure we're all just a bunch of
goobers and close this site down in disgust. And I'll bet he won't even give us our money back,
either!

Time? Just enough to mostly lurk, but sometimes I just gotta say what is on my mind when I see someone
urinating upstream in the stream we are using for our own drinking water.

OK, ok, John. I realize that this guy might be a potential customer of yours, but deep down inside, you
KNOW I am right about this.
chad bisbing Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3935.html Posted At 04:34:02 05/31/2001

Children, please...............
Steven Lewis Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3937.html Posted At 06:14:23 05/31/2001

I have delt with John twice since the first of the year. He is honest and professional breeder I would recommend him to anyone you cant go wrong dealing with John
Steve
Jesse Garcia Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3942.html Posted At 09:53:37 05/31/2001

George,
what is your problem? I posted and you replied with an a**hole like comment. All I wanted was a yay or nay answer. Your comments are the reason I come here very scarcely. Another is I posted another time and no reply. This board is for inquiries, as the name would suggest, not for flame wars. You want flame wars then stick to chat rooms and flame newsgroups. Crap comments like your's are part of the reason why it takes so long to download this file, well then again it doesn't take so long for me. I have cable. Laters, Jesse
George Maloney Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3947.html Posted At 11:48:05 05/31/2001

Jesse,

Ok let us see if YOU can define my problem here.

Just explain to the viewing audience why you DIDN'T use the KEYWORD SEARCH
program first for JOHN STAURSKY before posting your message.

It has to be one of the two reasons:

(1) You were just too lazy. Dropped in here from out of the blue, not bothering
to read through any of the existing threads and just figured to hell with us all,
you just want your question answered right away.

or

(2) You don't have a clue what a KEYWORD SEARCH is for. LOTS of other sites use
them, so it is nothing exotic or specific to this site. Matter of fact, you could
use the search function of your browser to even search through the topic lines on
the main page.

So pick one.......

And no, 'crap like mine' added to a thread does not increase the time it takes to
download this file. People irresponsibly starting new threads out of pure laziness
or lack of understanding of simple internet tools does.

And as I have seen before, no dog likes it when you stick it's nose in the crap it dumped
on the carpet. I just rubbed your nose in your lack of courtesy and you got all pissy on
me. But maybe you learned something.....

Seems to me you and John are the only ones flaming here. I'm just stating the facts and
my opinions without the slang you are using towards me.

So go ahead and prove me wrong with a nice logical well reasoned discussion of why it was
better to start a new thread rather than spend a few extra moments in consideration of everyone
else whom uses this board, by LOOKING for your topic or using the KEYWORD SEARCH.
JOHN A Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3948.html Posted At 12:26:56 05/31/2001

Well now
maybe jesse is new to computors
I am relatively new to this game
i just learned what a keyword search is
about a month ago having a computor for about 6 months
do we make fun of people who can't read
Well gee i dunno
get a grip George dont be so hard on the beaver
i am sure some people dont know what a keyword search is
[i didn't] hell i just learned how to IM people
remember what someone said
"can't we all just get along"
Apple
Jesse Garcia Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3949.html Posted At 12:41:18 05/31/2001

George,
What's the point in your reply? If you didn't have any info on John, then why did you even bother waste your breath or should I say your fingers. There's absolutely no point to your relies. And how do you suppose you rubbed my nose into anything? You don't can't even reply to simple question, instead you took up precious bandwidth with an assenine reply. If you don't like my ?'s then go screw yourself don't reply. And why should I bother with a keyword search I thought everyone had the right to post questions? So I guess I am one of the few who can't. Take your childish and worthless replies somewhere where they will be appreciated. Teen chats come to mind.
Laters, Jesse

p.s. When was the last time you "actually" inquired?
Webmaster Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3953.html Posted At 14:07:34 05/31/2001

Looks like it's time for me to step in here.

To be quite honest, despite his rough way of putting things, I find I am siding with George's points. I have requested that people use the keyword search program and even have it stated right above the place where you post new threads.

No Jesse, no one says you have to do it that way, but it was a request made with the understanding that people not doing so are being rather inconsiderate of everyone else that has to wade through countless inquiries made that could have been easily answered if they had taken the time to use the search program.

In the effort of conserving bandwidth on this file size, I may very well begin deleting new threads started that ignore my plea for common sense. I put in a lot of work to get that search engine working correctly on this site. I spend HOURS on it and in contact with my domain host support group figuring out a way to have the files reindexed every night automatically to keep it up to date on a daily basis.

I would certainly appreciate everyone using and appreciating the fruits of my labors. This entire message board was set up to help everyone, so everyone is going to have to do their part to help everyone else as well. I would certainly hate to think that I am the only one here bending over backwards to make this a useful tool to those interested in it.

I hate to sound like I am siding with George, but I'm trying to say the same thing nicely, where he seems inclined to use the 'slap in the face' technique. You can either choose to ignore the advice, or help us all out here, the choice is yours to make.

George Maloney Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3966.html Posted At 18:15:47 05/31/2001

Jesse,

RE: "p.s. When was the last time you "actually" inquired? "

Why don't you try out the KEYWORD SEARCH and find out! LOL!
Anthony Chodan- GRADE A Reptiles Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3975.html Posted At 21:15:44 05/31/2001

I have dealt with John in the past and find him to be very easy to work with. He didn't charge an arm and a leg for shipping which a lot of guys do. His animals were exactly as described, and they even looked better than the pics. I will not hesitate to do business with John again. Actually I would look at him first if he had something I needed.
Ken Casstevens Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3979.html Posted At 23:00:30 05/31/2001

Jesse, back to your original question. John is a very reputable businessman. I have bought from him before, and would not hesitate to buy from him again. He is very professional, has quality animals at good prices, and like Anthony said, doesn't charge an arm and a leg for shipping. He also amswers email quickly, and is happy to answer any questions you have. I bought a pair of mex. black kingsnakes from him last season, and they are awsome! My advice is buy from him.
Jesse Garcia Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3982.html Posted At 00:53:34 06/01/2001

George,
I am gonna squash this once and for all. I did do a search on your name and John's name. For yours I came up with 15 crap "REPLIES" and no inquiries, so I guess that answers one of my questions. For John's I came up with a lot of replies and only 2 people that were unhappy. So in a sense a keyword search would have done me the least bit of good. Since in this thread the good out number the bad, which has accomplished what I set out to do. Even doing a keyword search I couldn't give a rat's ass who he thinks has the best rodents because I breed my own. If you payed any attention to what you said and if others did the same this thread could have been a whole lot shorter. people like you, George, is what gives herpers and bords like this a bad name. Keep up the good work and good luck, Jesse
Jordan Russell Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3988.html Posted At 03:09:19 06/01/2001

I couldn't care less about this chatter back and forth but I have a question for Anthony. When you say he doesn't charge and arm and a leg for shipping like everyone else, what does that mean? People get charged (By everyone I know at least.) the amount that it costs to ship an animal. Are you stating he eats some shipping costs? Or using unsuitable "Cheap" means to ship live animals? I wouldn't want that advertised about me as a "benefit" of doing business with me.... just my $0.02

Jordan
John Staursky Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
3991.html Posted At 09:34:20 06/01/2001

Hi Jordan,
I ussually eat some of the shipping costs myself because I realize that people don't want to buy a $50 pair of snakes and pay another $50 to have them shipped.
I use boxes and heat/cold packs from Superior Enterprise for every order and they are not cheap. I lose a little profit on the small orders but the larger orders make up the difference.
I have NEVER had a dead on arrival incident even when shipping in the dead of winter. I don't skimp on heat packs when needed, I will use as many as needed depending on where the box is going, and not charge extra for it. There are also specific ways of packing that some people don't realize, I have recieved shipments from people that are supposed to be reputable with deli cups containing a snake sitting directly on a heat pack, guess what, the snakes didn't make it, I have also recieved cold shipments with all of the snakes bellies full, not very smart either in my opinion.
The clincher was when I order some snakes from a commercial dealer and when it arrived it looked like the box had come out of a dumpster.
So I can only determine that my means of shipping are very suitable because of the success I have had doing so.
Not many of these small time guys like me will order $300 worth of shipping supplies before they have sold a thing. But if someone sends me money I want to make sure they feel like they are getting proffesional service and not dealing with some kid on the internet (p.s., I'm 34 years old..lol)
That's what I expect because I am a very demanding consumer, it's that easy, just treat people the way you would want to be treated and everything should work out fine. There are always one or two customers that you can't please no matter what you do, but that's how it goes in any business.
I hope you weren't insinuating anything bad about me Jordan, I kinda like you now..lol (remember I used to give you a hard time? lol)
Take care man,
John
Jordan Russell Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4000.html Posted At 14:11:23 06/01/2001

Hey John,

No I wasn't saying anything negative. I just wondered what Anthony was implying. I find that to be pretty good customer service to help by eating the costs of shipping partially. I have nearly completely cut off selling colubrids that are juveniles due to the fact that no one wants to pay shipping on a $50-$100 snake.

Take care,
Jordan
Ritchie Luna Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4024.html Posted At 03:03:52 06/02/2001

Okay webmaster...maybe george is right...but can he say it much nicer. Can he maybe become less rude. Does he have to have his panties in a bunch. Is it that time of month. Or is he going to scream and yell and pretend to be all tough because he can hide behind his computer.

"I am just stating the facts here"
george "no dog likes it when you stick its nose on the crap it dumped on the carpet" I am rubbing your nose in YOUR lack of courtesy. he is a human being who made a mistake. If you have never made a mistake....then keep right on going. but with an attitude like yours....I think your life probably has been one BIG HUGE MISTAKE.

I will not hide behind a computer playing tough.
I stand by my comments.
My name is Ritchie Luna
I am educated unlike some people.
I have manners Unlike some people


And John and jesse are not flaming....you are flaming...GEORGIEBOY....in more ways than one. Are you like a little kid or something....did you get permission from your mommy to be on the computer? Grow up!!!
Tom Chambers Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4028.html Posted At 09:16:32 06/02/2001

Well said Ritchie! Nothing to add other than I think George needs a Midol. It might curb that PMS!
TC
Kelli Hammack Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4032.html Posted At 15:23:27 06/02/2001

Please keep your "time of the month" and "PMS" and "Midol" comments to yourself, thanks!! Some of the lady herpers who visit this forum might find those type of comments offensive or something, geez!

;-)

Kelli
Ritchie Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4033.html Posted At 16:26:55 06/02/2001

hey kelly...your right. But it was the wife's idea...she was reading over my shoulder....but since I typed it and she did not....I take full responsibility
Tom Chambers Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4035.html Posted At 20:54:11 06/02/2001

Sorry Kelley, no offense intended....we have our "time of the month" too, there's just no official name for it so you ladies take the hit!
I will try to stay away from gender specific terms in the future!
;-)

TC
TC Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4057.html Posted At 19:07:52 06/03/2001

ooops......Kelli. My bad again...
Anthony Chodan- GRADE A REPTILES Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4060.html Posted At 20:21:27 06/03/2001



Hey Jordan-

A lot of dealers I have dealt with give you a good price on the animal, then charge you say $35 to ship a baby garter USPS. John didn't give me any bogus box charges or heat pack charges. I'd say 99% of us recycle boxes we get anyways. It's kind of like going to the pet shop and having to pay for the bags they put the crickets in, the boxes the mice come in, and the plastic bag your other stuff is in.
I know a dealer who charged my buddy $35 to ship him a baby rat snake usps. The box charge included was $10. Well he got the snake in a CRICKET BOX W\O any padding or heat pads during the New Jersey Winter. The sticker said $16 and change. It took many threatening e-mails to have him give some $ back.
John charged me $15 to ship a pair of milks. They came in a well packed , clean professional box, and the sticker said $18. He had no bogus box charge whatsoever!!!

Hey- if you're going to ship a 25' psycho anaconda, a rabid panda bear, or a box of angry squirrels-then maybe I could see a box charge, but I believe it has gotten out of hand. I'm a small guy, and would NEVER consider charging $2 for heat packs like some dealers do right now. I believe it our duty as breeders\dealers to do everything in our power to get the animal to the customer in the safest way possible.
eating some of the s\h cost is another great idea.
Rich Zuchowski Re: Shipping expenses
4068.html Posted At 23:45:58 06/03/2001

This is getting to be a bit off topic, but I feel another perspective needs to be presented here in reference to shipping costs.

Anthony - Some people do buy their boxes. They cost me around $4 - $5 for the cardboard and styro inserts. This doesn't even take into consideration the $2,000 shed I had to buy in order to store the shipping and related materials. Heat packs also come out of my pocket as does everything else associated with a shipment going out the door. I just got in a shipment of 3,000 deli cups and lids this past week. Unfortunately, I could not talk Superior Enterprises into just giving them to me. About the only thing associated with a shipment that I get for free is the newspaper we shred to pack inside the box. And even then, my wife has to bake brownies for the people at the local newspaper in order to get to the top of the list of the people asking for substantial quantities that we use.

Why shouldn't I try to recover those costs? If I go to a show and sell a Motley corn snake, it is $30. If someone calls up and orders one, it is $30. At a show, I hand the customer the deli cup, write out an invoice and take the money. Selling this snake and having to ship it is a whole lot more trouble on my end. So why should I take the shipping expenses as a loss on my end? Shipping out that one snake is a lot of hassle. I have implemented and dropped a minimum order standard more times than I can count over the years. Depends on my patience level at the time. Some times of the year, I just can't be bothered to pack up and send out a package that is making me less than $100. Just locating the animals, printing up labels and invoice, packing up a box, then arranging pickup for door-to-door service or running out to the airport can take at least an hour or two out of my life. Packing up an order of a half dozen snakes may mean that I have to search through 1,000 or more baby snakes to find ones that I feel are suitable to ship out.

If packages gets lost or delayed, whom is it that has to do all of the phone calls and leg work to get it straightened out? If it shows up at the destination in poor condition, through no fault of my own, I am responsible for making it good, and this also comes out of my pocket.

I am already taking a substantial hit on the sale when the customer pays using a credit card, but I don't charge for this and eat this percentage. On a small order, it sometimes would be better for me to just open the door and release the animal rather than spend the time effort and expense of shipping it. For me to ship a $10 snake at cost for shipping would basically mean I was doing the equivalent of throwing a couple of dollars into the box along with the snake.

Quite frankly with all of the hassles associated with shipping live reptiles, it's a wonder anyone even offers to do it at all. I came pretty close to terminating shipping reptiles completely last summer and still wonder if maybe it might not be in my best interests to only sell at shows.

I probably charge more for shipping than most people do, but that's the way it is. I'm sticking my neck out and going through all of the hassles necessary to make the shipping work and standing behind the customer being happy with the transaction. Why should I do this for free or at a loss?

I'm all for getting the animals to the customer in the safest way possible, but my eating some of the cost doesn't help this to happen at all. Matter of fact, I think it would behoove the customer to be prepared to investigate fully the manner that the person is going to ship the animal to them and be the one most interested in insisting the safest and most reliable method of shipping. If they can't afford first class service, then maybe they need to find another way in order to get their animal. Anyone looking for the cheapest animals at the cheapest way to ship them may be in for some disappointments down the road.

Quite frankly, if it is not worth my time and effort to ship my animals, then I would much rather spend my time doing something else rather than putting up with the hassles of shipping.

IMHO, of course.
John Staursky Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4071.html Posted At 01:20:55 06/04/2001

Rich,
I understand your frustration, but let's be honest... if it weren't profitable would you really be doing it?
I'm going to be honest here and say that I wouldn't bother selling hatchlings on the internet if it weren't profitable. Even with all the headaches of shipping, people falling thru on deals, a few unhappy customers here and there, supply costs, long distance phone bills, $2,000 snake racks, $100 thermostats...etc. etc. I still make a profit on the snakes... the supplies and equipment I use are for me.. I could produce the animals in cardboard shoe boxes if my only concern was money, but it's not. I'm anal about having everything just so.. down to the millions of little $2.99 ceramic water bowls that I MUST have...LOL
What was my point again? Ohh yeah, it's just fun watching those little guys hatch out in the spring..lol
IMHO of course :)
John Staursky
p.s. this thread is getting kinda long huh? lol
Rich Zuchowski Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4076.html Posted At 09:12:25 06/04/2001

Profitable? Well gee, that's a tough one.

If I had to pay my wife for the work she does, and give myself a salary, then no, I don't think it would be profitable at all. I have two part time employees that I pay out of my pocket already with the possibility of adding a third one in August.

Overhead in this business is immense if you do what is right and best for the animals and not what is cheapest. And I am embarrassed by the number of animals I have in cages that are too small for them simply because I don't have larger cages available, nor room for the larger cages. Building another building for the additional space would be another huge expense. Then I would have to increase the size of the mouse colony, which would mean a larger building for that as well. Then I'll need another shed to be able to hold increased amounts of rodent chow and shavings we'll need on hand...... etc., etc.

Believe me, if I were doing this for the money, I would NOT be breeding corn snakes! It is a real tough sell to get someone to spend more than $200 for a corn snake, yet those same people would think nothing of forking out that kind of money for an odd ball python or another boid.

My idea of a vacation is the Saturday night inbetween a two day herp show out of town. That's why I don't normally do one day shows. I haven't been able to take a real vacation for about 12 years now and there are none in the foreseeable forecast. Most nights I am up till around 11 pm, and during the hatching season, I am very familiar with the wee hours of the morning. Did I forget to mention that I have a full time day job?

Every year I get into a funk over the amount of work needed to keep this all running, the number of frustrations that are part and parcel of dealing with living (and dying) things, and how imbalanced the work/income ratio really is. And then I'll get an email from someone offering to take a $25 snake off of my hands if I throw in free shipping. It takes an immense amount of self control to remain civil in situations like that. A couple of times, I did not have the necessary self control.....

A LOT of people have gotten out of this business recently. Quite frankly, sometimes I wonder if they aren't the smart ones.

John Staursky Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4077.html Posted At 09:50:18 06/04/2001

Rich,
C'mon rich, your starting to sound like a guy named Jim K_ _ e LOL... I think your suffering a slight case of burnout. You know if you give it up your going to regret it after accumilating all those nice animals. Do you have a nice display set-up to look at to just enjoy the snakes? If I was Rich Z. I would have this really cool naturalistic set-up in my living room with ever morph in it, plants, branches, a waterfal...ahhh, that would be awesome!
Besides, you'r not allowed to get out because you're to famous now, heck, you have been in books and magazines, your somewhat of a corn snake "Icon".. i'm not brownosing people, I just admire Rich..lol
Well I can't even imagine the work you put into your snakes at that scale, maybe cut back a bit? I would hate to see someone with your success get burned out and throw in the towel out of frustration. But I know what you mean about cornsnakes and money.. people won't pay that much for even the nicest of corns. The last show I was at a few months ago a guy had a table with all of these really, really nice corns, a lot of them were yearlings and they were cheaper than a lot of hatchlings and still, they just sat there. I wanted to buy them all up!
Take care,
John
ERIC BURKETT Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4079.html Posted At 12:39:21 06/04/2001

Hey Kelly, Will you tell the TV Stations that??....LOL Tired of seeing those commercials....ERIC
Rich Zuchowski Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4080.html Posted At 13:19:57 06/04/2001

John - no I'm not planning on throwing in the towel. It's just that this thread turned towards the topic of shipping, and that was a big pain in my side around this time last year. Just the idea that some people think we breeders are making so much money at doing this that we should provide the shipping for free or subsidize some of it just rubbed me the wrong way.

Many people only have the perspective of being on the buying side of the table at a show and it must look like we are raking in the bucks. But of all the things people have said when they stopped by my place, the one I have heard the most often is "How in the world do you do it??"

And no, we don't have ANY reptiles in the house. If a snake sees you, it will find something for you to do.
John Kellar Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4081.html Posted At 14:51:07 06/04/2001

I'm with Rich on this one, I charge $5 box fee for orders under $200, and that doesn't cover my costs. Occassionally I reuse a good box from an order I received, but I ship way more than I get, plus the used ones I do have I normally save for the under $200 purchase, so I can waive the fee anyway. Anthony mentioned it is like charging for the plastic bag or mouse box at a pet store, well you are paying for that stuff, that's why stuff at a pet store costs so much, usually at least double what most of us sell our herps for, I could get jungle corns (actually I don't deal in hybrids, just an example) for $30 and have seen them at pet stores for a pair for $299, I kid you not.
So I have no problem with paying a box fee from breeder's that charge, I usually by more than the minimum anyway.
John Kellar
fliptop Re: John Staursky(good or bad guy?)
4225.html Posted At 11:44:09 06/07/2001

Back to topic: Staursky's a great guy. I was real happy with the animals I got from him, not to mention dealing with him (through a botched shipment thanks to the USPS). Recommend him wholeheartedly. Andy "fliptop" Fotopoulos

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