| Author | Subject: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ? |
| Dave Derrick | Posted At 05:15:57 06/07/2001
Anyone done business with em ? |
| Bill Horn, Briarpatch Herps |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4219.html Posted At 09:51:30 06/07/2001 Dave, Kris Mays of Bluegrass Herps is fairly local to me and ive known him for several years thru trade shows. the deals ive had with him went very smoothly and i feel very good about the quality of his animals. hes a very upfront honest kind of guy and always had a posative outlook towards you when doing business, i dont think youll have any problems at all in dealing with him. regards, Bill Horn Briarpatch Herps |
| ben siegel reptiles |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4224.html Posted At 11:43:50 06/07/2001 Kris is a good guy--we just received 30 jungle carpets, and some of them were new borns(we knew they were going to be)--alot of them fed immediately--they are beautiful animals and very healthy--we got 30 of them 4 days ago, and already sold 21!!!!!!!!amazing how easy it is to sell nice animals--thanks Kris!!!! |
| nikki penperthy |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4237.html Posted At 16:24:09 06/07/2001 use the search option and enter his name go to those post and you diside how honest |
| Jordan Russell |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4241.html Posted At 16:45:56 06/07/2001 Nikki point blank get a life. I am so sick and tired of you dragging a good herpers name through the mud because you have a wild hair up your ***. Kris is a quality herper and I think you need to realize this or get a life. As you can tell I am a little angry. Want to know the reason? People like you give this hobby a bad name. So many people bag on the good guys when there is no reason for it. GET A LIFE |
| Corey Estill |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4246.html Posted At 17:22:01 06/07/2001 Kris is definatly one of the GREAT guys in this buisness. He is always honest and always straight forward with his animals and customers. Like Ben said he sent him 30 baby jungles non feeding and Ben new that but Kris made sure he new that. I would strongly suggest Kris for anything and I'll back him 110% Corey Estill Estillian Reptiles |
| nikki penberthy |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4248.html Posted At 17:32:48 06/07/2001 I am a little angry too,the man ask about kris/bluegrass herp and all i did was tell him to use the keyword search option nothing more!!!! in my opinion it is people that lie that are driving this hobby into the ground and that is what he did and for that he is a bad guy but you have your head so far up his *** that you can not see the forest for the trees and i will show the proof to dave derrick go to this addy..http://www.kingsnake.com/forum/burmese/messages/92.html this is a snake that kris swears is 9' long...(yeah ..ok) then go to.. http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=984776&a=7234950&f=0&sp=0 and press the show all botton scroll down to the ghost albino burm [there is a couple pics] that ghost albino is the same that kris srears is only 8' maybe 9' at the most.these are the very same photos that kris from blue grass herp was shown before he paid for the snake.just to let everyone know the black burm in the photo is a true 11'-4" i know because i bought it and put the tape to it.so yes jordon you need to get a life and only speak of what you know you are defendending [in my opinion] a liar and cheat.so dave derrick read the post below and you make up your own mind and good luck if you buy anything from kris/bluegrass herps because he is not honest with you unless you are a big name like mr.siegal or a friend in my opinion.the man lied for no reason at all other then to keep me from buting from someone else instead of him. |
| nikki penberthy |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4249.html Posted At 17:53:39 06/07/2001 one more point needs to be made here to dave derrick and anyone else wanting to know ,if you do a keyword search on BLUEGRASS HERPS you will see that kris mays,bill horn,jordan russell and corey estill are the only people that posted good things about each other and bill horn said the very same thing about mays and estill..i find that "odd" |
| Bluegrass Herp - Kris Mays |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4250.html Posted At 18:28:20 06/07/2001 Nikki, Again, you make no sense. I could put photos of all kinds of animals online and that doesn't make them mine. I've seen Dave's photos too....They are not the animal that I received. She was only 9'. I'm not sure why anyone would care about that anyway. SHE'S DEAD!! She came in with a bad resp. and she died from it... It makes no sense why I would even bother to lie about any of this. What would I be gaining? I don't even know you. You never saw the animal I purchased so how can YOU comment on it??? Wow, you saw a picture of an animal that you are ASSUMING I received....The animal I received was NOT 11' or 12' or even 10'....She was no more than 9'. You are wrong in your whole attack on me and I have yet to see your motive. I've never sold anything to you and you've never even spoken to me. You asked for any dealing with Dave and I gave you one. Your crusade is misguided. I have hundreds of references and I run an honest business. Gee, since Bill, Corey, Jordan and I have done business together and have had a good business relationship don't you think we'd post for one another? That's what this board is for...Not for grade school kids to ramble on about things they know nothing about. Kris |
| Bill Horn, Briarpatch Herps |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4253.html Posted At 19:00:29 06/07/2001 i dont feel i need to offer argument against these juvenile comments offered by someone whos never done business with anyone formentioned, seems obvious that ones own ramblings are self descriminating and proves overall mentality. regards, Bill Horn Briarpatch Herps |
| nikki penberthy |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4254.html Posted At 19:10:08 06/07/2001 kris,the photos in photopoint that i posted the addy for contains the very same photos that were posted for the ghost albino burm female on kingsnake the very same photos that are of the very same snake that you admittedly tried to treat yourself and faled at it.from the e-mail you kept stateing that dave misrepresented the snake and lied to you but you have no proof at all yet i have lots of solid proof that you lied and keep digging deeper.people know that the photo of the ghost albino female that is in the photopoint album is indeed the same animal that you say was only 9' and they also know that the snake that you have now is not 9',the fact that you never called dave lawson to say "hey this snake is dying of a u.r.i. or it is a whole 3 foot smaller"is so very odd,i do not think any other person in the world would spend $5,000 and admittedly let themselves get screwed.make no sense at all.you lied to me so that i would not buy from lawson you were mad at him due to the fact that he told you "no" when you made a offer on a albino retic[2 months after he sold you a dying snake]funny how keep changing your stories!!!oh and by the way i have talked to 2 people that know the snake that you were shipped and both say at least 11 1/2 to 12 1/2 feet long.but they know you and they know dave so they want to stay clear of it for now. |
| Ken Harbart |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4255.html Posted At 19:11:29 06/07/2001 Dave, as Nikki has said, look at the below thread. It proves who is honest, and who is living in a fantasy world of conspiracy theories. While you're reading it, be sure to note all of the contradictions and doublespeak in Nikki's allegation against Kris. Also note the idiocy of this statement, "[...]the man lied for no reason at all other then to keep me from buying from someone else instead of him." This statement defies logic- Kris and Dave are not in direct competition with one another, and there was nothing to gain by telling Nikki about a snake that arrived in poor health and 2/3s it's advertised size. Aside from a lone nonsensical conspiracy theory riddled with contradictions, doublespeak, and hearsay, you will be hard-pressed to find any complaints about Kris. As a matter of fact, I have never seen a negative comment about Kris (aside from the aforementioned NP conspiracy theory) posted on this forum, or either of the previous herp dealer blacklists. In short, my $0.02 coincides with the rest of the rational replies to this thread. I would not hesitate to recommend purchasing from Kris. I've corresponded with him several times in the past about boas and hots. Like everyone else has said, I also have found him to be honest and forthright. |
| Dave Derrick |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4276.html Posted At 04:51:39 06/08/2001 Thank you ALL for your post. It's nothing personal toward Kris or Bluegrass Herps. I'm going to be making a purchase from Kris and I think it's wise to find any info before you buy. Kris even agreed to work out a payment plan for me,which I think is super great of him! Not alot of people are willing to keep up with ALL those little payments and hold animals that could have already been sold! I did not mean to cause a "stir" sorry for that. Again thank you ALL for taking your time to answer to my post. I look forward to doing business with Kris. When my dept is paid and I have received my animals, I'll come back here and post how everything went.Thanks Again..............Dave |
| Jeremy Stone Reptiles |
Re: Chris is straight up
4287.html Posted At 12:46:44 06/08/2001 I am embarresed to think that Chris offered his hand to help, and someone acts as if he is a bad person. I know Chris, and he has always been very honest with me. We have had many dealings together, and I can verify Chris has a VERY high quality collection. He takes care of his snakes, and the projects he works on shows his dedication to the business. I would not hesitate ONE SECOND to buy from Chris. For those who have done business with him knows that he would make any wrong right should he come across a wrong. People with integrity like this need to be commended. He will always have a good reference in my book. Keep up the good work Chris. He is really taking a lot of risks to get some killer animals out, and I admire anyone with the balls to do that. |
| Jeremy Stone Reptiles |
Re: Chris is straight up
4288.html Posted At 12:46:58 06/08/2001 I am embarresed to think that Chris offered his hand to help, and someone acts as if he is a bad person. I know Chris, and he has always been very honest with me. We have had many dealings together, and I can verify Chris has a VERY high quality collection. He takes care of his snakes, and the projects he works on shows his dedication to the business. I would not hesitate ONE SECOND to buy from Chris. For those who have done business with him knows that he would make any wrong right should he come across a wrong. People with integrity like this need to be commended. He will always have a good reference in my book. Keep up the good work Chris. He is really taking a lot of risks to get some killer animals out, and I admire anyone with the balls to do that. |
| nikki penberthy |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4293.html Posted At 15:50:35 06/08/2001 yes you know him so very well and have done so many dealings with him that you can not even spell his name right. |
| Ken Harbart |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4297.html Posted At 18:41:03 06/08/2001 Nikki, the fact that you have zero credibility and can't ruin the name of an honest herper, despite al your efforts, just seems to be eating away at you. All you are doing is making yourself look more and more childish and foolish with your unwarranted spitefullness. Now then, if Kris is such a "bad guy", how come YOU are the only one that seems to think so? "Really doctor, I'm not crazy; its everyone else that is." By the way Nikki... you may find this hard to believe (but I'm sure you'll find a place for it in your conspiracy theory), but its common knowledge that Jeremy knows Kris and has dealt with him. That being said, please do us all a favor, and return back to under the rock from whence you came. Your conspiracy theory and rhetoricare actually growing quite tiresome, and I'm hoping that Rich sees fit to close this thread also. Anything you contribute to this discussion from here on is just noise as far as I'm (and I'm sure many others are) concerned. Have a nice day. |
| Corey Estill |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4300.html Posted At 18:50:53 06/08/2001 Dave, I'm glad you have seen through the mud that some people are trying to throw and are going to deal with Kris. I think it is very sad that because there are friends that look out for each other and try to help each other when they can that they get berated because of it. Even when a well known herper such as Jeremy Stone posts for somebody and he too gets berated for trying to help on someones behalf just because he misspelled a name that can be spelled several diffrent ways. Yes, Ken, Bill, Jordan, Ben, Jeremy, and myself know each other but why would we continually stick our necks out for someone if they really didn't earn it. By doing so would mean we are putting our reputations on the line. I would put my reputation out there day in and day out for these guys and especially Kris Mays from Bluegrass Herp. |
| Brian Oakley |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4361.html Posted At 15:26:18 06/10/2001 Well, it has been a LONG time since I posted anything on any forum EXCEPT yesterday to something further down. I have been watching this for MANY days now and frankly it is A JOKE!!!!! Nikki, I have NO idea who you are and what kind of person you are, but this has gone on far enough don't you think. I think it is quite obvious that there are enough people who have dealt with/spoke with/ or met Kris in the past. I AM one of those people. I cannot recall who contacted who, but I spoke to Kris by way of email AND on the phone trying to put a deal together. Unfortuantely we could not come to terms that suited us both. Kris was a pleasure to talk to and would gladly talk to and hopefully deal with him in the future. There are PLEANTY of people that I PERSONLLY know that have done business with him, not just the ones you feel are friends and sticking up for one another here in this forum. If I could get ALL THOSE PEOPLE to post their thoughts here regarding this thread, I think you might feel you are a little out of place. You have a gripe with him.......fine I suppose. I think this could have been done in another place instead of wasting everyone's time with this childish, insecure, obnoxious, rediculous, self centered, "me first" menatlity. NO, NOT AN ATTACK ON YOU! I think your words speak well enough for themselves. I think you are embarrassed now that you have created all this. Go back and look at some of the things you have written. You do not even know these people. Pictures you have seen....MEAN NOTHING! The way someone spells another persons name.....MEANS NOTHING! My point in all this is....let it rest. Get over it. I am sure you have other areas in your life that you could focus all your bottled up energy. Best wishes to all- Brian Oakley |
| D-Rex (Derek Rayborn) |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
4735.html Posted At 21:37:19 06/20/2001 Me and Kris have been friends for quite sometime!! He's a Hell of a guy!! He'll shoot ya strait and up front!! Don't screw with him and he won't screw with you! He won't take any crap. Yours Truly, Derek Rayborn |
| Timothy Dean |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
5119.html Posted At 12:12:15 07/03/2001 I have purchased one animal from Kris. She is a beautiful Sawu Python and I love her dearly. She is the pride of my collection. However, when I received her she was totally MITE infected. It seems that Kris is very respected and liked by many people here, but I thought I would pass along my experience with the mites. I will think twice next time I deal with Bluegrass herp. Good Luck!! Timothy Dean |
| Mike Wright |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
5345.html Posted At 23:49:47 07/05/2001 Kris is a good guy, i live close and have made several purchases from his pet store over the last few years, i've only had one problem with him, i bought a JCP a couple years ago that was being keep on a green sand, well it dyed the snakes skin a greenish color and it looked awesome, i bought the snake thinking it was that color normally, well when it sheed i found out the truth but i contacted Kris and it was worked out, But with the buisness i have done with him 1 out of problally 20 purchases is good, like i've said before several times, in any buisness you can't make every customer happy ever single time, BUT if you notice the good out numbers the bad, Thanks |
| Patrick Hughett |
Re: Bluegrass Reptiles,KY (Inquirey) Good , Bad ?
6206.html Posted At 00:20:54 07/23/2001 Hello All! I have purchased a couple of snakes from Kris and I was totally pleased! I bought a pair of Savu pythons and they are great. I admit, I gave Kris a bit of a hard time, because I was in a pinch and I didn't get the animals for a couple of days after paying...because he misplaced my address and whatnot, but I know a good guy from a bad guy and Kris is one of the good ones! By the way....Who is Nikki anyway?...and how old is she? Patrick Hughett North Texas Reptiles |