Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy

Author Subject: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
Tom Hill Posted At 22:46:14 07/08/2001
I purchased a pair of Western Hognose snakes from him and 4 Medittaranian Geckos. When the package arrived the lizards were just thrown in a paper bag with no padding or anything and when I pulled them out to look at them I found them to be Texas Spiney Lizards. The kind you can catch in your back yard if you live in that area. Well to top it all off they died a few days later. One of the Hognose snakes didn't last the week. Now I know that reptiles die and I can understand that, but he called me once like I asked, but I wasn't home. I called him back 4 times and he's never there. He originally responded to my emails telling me he made a shipping mistake and was going to send out the correct geckos and now he won't even respond to my emails. I'm stuck with a Hognose snake that I can't deliver now. I have T.C. Serpents amd I had 2 seperate customers that had me track down what they wanted that paid me and now I've had to refund their money. I have a breeder pair of Hognose myself that I am not willing to part with at the low price.
Basically in a nut shell I was not sent what I asked for and 5 of 6 animals that I received died within days and Tim won't even talk to me. If he makes things right I'll post it here. I wasn't looking for a refund just to get what I paid for. One last thing he ships his reptiles priority mail which could take up to two days. I only ship overnight express and most others I deal with do the same thing.
jeremy rennison Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5508.html Posted At 22:57:14 07/08/2001

if this guys email is nancambell something I have dealt wit hhim before, I bought a PAIR of ball pythons, which were really skinny, and still haven't ate on there own, and they are both males, I emailed him asking why they were so skinny, and why they were both males, well, I cannot say his exact words, but I wanted to get my money back, and he has never emailed me back, now i have two male ball pythons, that don't eat, and that are just in bad shape, I am trying my hardest to keep them healthy, but you all know how ball pythons can be... well, I just hope this Tim MCDaniel doesn't do this anymore... bye
Ken Harbart Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5576.html Posted At 22:27:43 07/09/2001

Tom, good ol' Tim was probably too busy killing and skinning snakes for use as "conversation pieces", to reply to you. I could go on and on about why Tim is a "bad guy"- he advocates the slaughtering of snakes for skin products and use as "conversation pieces". That alone is reason enough to avoid doing business with him, IMO. As I said before, I find it paradoxical that someone who calls himself a herper has no qualms about killing snakes for profit.

Rather than rehash it all here, just follow this link, and see for yourself.
http://herpwantads.com/forums/Inquiry/posts/4258.html
Dan Turner Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5594.html Posted At 09:37:55 07/10/2001

Hello, I had the same with him I sent over 600.00 in trade of inverts to him he gave me a king snake that did not eat and later died a pair ( two males) of horned lizards I was suppose to get 5. they died they where very sick thowing up. collard lizards very sick chuckwallas almost dead and a pair of box turtles that where suppose to be high yellow they were regs, and a pair of desert kings that were coverd in mites I will never do any thing with him again He Ripped me off big time
shawn olson Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5628.html Posted At 17:09:23 07/10/2001

Yeah, this guy is a jerk. Killing snakes and skinning them and he's supposably a herper? I emailed him on the snakes and telling him off of killing them and he said nothing but filth.ANYONE, DONT DO ANY BUSINESS WITH THIS A**HOLE!
shawn
Reptile Ranger Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5655.html Posted At 13:16:58 07/11/2001

This is a reply from Daniel Turner after our trade. Sounds pretty content here huh? He never mentioned mites or anything before now. He even posted for me in my favor on June 7 th.



That is alot. Thanks and I cant wait to get them. The other one is not doing
so well but he is still here. The calif king is just a big baby the desert
kings are very mean to be I have been struck at every time I go to hold them.
What kinds of lizards do you have? I would like to buy some more I put the
chuckwallas and the collards together they are in dirt I went and bought the
collards make tunnles! and the chuckwallas just love going in and out they
all lay and bask and drink and eat!. I really like them. Do you have any
female collards? If you tell me what you have I will get money on sat june
9th if you dont mind holding the stuff I want I will buy it then, If I dont
have any luck witht the desert kings would you want to trade them back? It
might sound dumb but I dont like being bit at as a matter of fact the smaller
of the two the one in the blue back bit me today I have marks on my hand I
dont know why they dont like me. But Let me know what kinds of lizards you
have any can get and we can do busness again sound good? Let me know thanks.

PS can you get any chuckwallas? I like them I like lizards alot! but I do
like the calif king alot too.
Hey every thing here is great! I love them What are texas spinys? Thanks No prob. I really like your stuff alot and this eric seems to be one of those
people that are just always looking for something. I am hoping to sell the
the stuff I got and buy more from you, Can you catch day geckos? Let me know
You got more desert kings cool I like mine. Mine bite though the one got out
in the house and I got it though I thank you for every thing and when I sell
or trade my black head kings I will trade or buy from you again okay with you?

thanks


Here is Jeremys reply:
ok, I am buying one tonight foresure, ok... and, just wanted to let you
know, those ball pythons are awesome, very pretty... female isn't quite as
big as I had hope, but It was a good price... thanx, for being honest etc I just wanted to say I am sorry for saying all that, ok.. it was selfish of
me, and I am sorry, ok.... I would really like to buy a bull snake off of
you, ok.... one that is atleast 3ft. ok, please foregive me.... and the ball sent you the money, when are you sending the bull snake?? over night
please.... by the way, I have a friend that has snake probes, I said what
the heck, and let him probe the two ball pythons, and there both males...
but, its ok... there both healthy looking, haven't ate yet, but I will try
later
Come on Jeremy tell the truth for once.........

pythons are eating good now.... thanx, bye

I found Toms message today. Tom I'll send you another hog. The mix up on the geckos was fixed yesterday when I mailed them to you. I tried to call you a couple of times but missed you. I'd have replaced the hog if you would have let me know, and still will.
Daniel, All of your stuff died on me.....didn't hear me bitch though!
Tim

Tom Hill Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5656.html Posted At 13:39:36 07/11/2001

I just wanted to publicly apologize to Tim McDaniel for over reacting. I was a little too quick to jump the gun because of other things that have happened like in another post I put here about Michael Wright. Tim is taking care of me and was a real gentleman about the post I put here when we talked on the phone not 5 minutes ago. Tim again I apologize for over reacting and I appreciate you replacing the hognose. Thank you.
Tom Hill
Kenneth Hilton Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5737.html Posted At 00:01:10 07/13/2001

I have dealt with Tim several times and never had a problem and would not hesitate to deal with him again. For you guys still crying about the poor little rattlesnakes . Why dont you cry for the cows, chickens and the pigs too. BOO HOO!! BOO HOO!!
Jude{MiLadyDragonn} Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5741.html Posted At 00:58:07 07/13/2001

~OK, I watched this thread for a while to see if this was the same guy I dealt with...it is and I cannot believe he could be a "bad guy"!
~Back when I was searching for a male hognose snake, Tim contacted me and said he would have one for me. He did, gave me a great price on a beautiful 22" male and shipped exactly when he said he would. He followed up with me for quite awhile afterwards to be sure all was well.
~ The male was everything he said it would be, he even mentioned a small scar on it's back that DID disappear after the shed, as he said it probably would. Although, the snake was bigger than what I needed, I could not pass up the deal and I'm glad I didn't! I have had numerous offers to purchase this snake when people see it on my site.
~ so, Tim, here is my input. Sorry it took me so long. I would do business with you again with no hesitation. You were upfront with me, as I was with you. In this case, honesty bred honesty, and the result was a satisfied buyer.

jude
ps: If only some of these kids would learn that trying to pull a fast one never pays off. Honesty is, and always will be,the best policy!
Jude Fitch {MiLadyDragonn} Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5745.html Posted At 01:27:45 07/13/2001

I have GOT to remember to put my last name in!! My apologies!
I just keep assuming it is well known here as in my other forums and clubs.
jude
Ken Harbart Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5889.html Posted At 20:48:12 07/16/2001

Mr Hilton, let's discuss apples and ornages for a minute, shall we? The animals that you mentioned are all domestic, and bred exclusively for the purpose of consumption. The rattlesnakes that good ol' Tim is butchering for conversation pieces are adults, taken from breeding populations- many of which have been extirpated by activities such as this.

Tim mistakenly believes that he's doing his family a great service by killing rattlesnakes within X-radius. In reality though, he's doing nothing more than increasing the odds that his son will contract a rodent-borne pathogen such as hantavirus.

Anyways, I hear the Sweetwater Jaycees are looking for someone to cut promos for roundups. You should give them a call.
Daniel Turner Re: Reptile Ranger/ Tim McDaniel- Bad Guy
5906.html Posted At 06:48:06 07/17/2001

You forgot to put in my e-mail that the king snake was skinny and did not eat and later died ! and the horned toads were throwing up. You did not put that you told me that you would give me other stuff but you never did, Then you said you would send TWO desert horned toads to me if I pay ! I dont think so. and that letter stuff was taken out of it and I wrote it the day after I got the stuff I even sent my best snake a burm that had nerd blood line he said he would later send me new stuff because my stuff added up to way more than his ( that was before we traded) I would not do any thing else with him. As for rattle snake killing I Dont think its right but I cant do a thing about it. Just watch out for him. Thanks

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