Anyone know Babyslither@aol

Author Subject: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
Shawn * Sunbaked Serpents* Posted At 16:12:38 10/02/2001
Babyslither@aol.com is her e-mail, her name is Kim. Add name ARIANA from C.A. Has any one done business with her before?
Brian Rogers Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9713.html Posted At 10:39:50 10/03/2001

YES her name is kim but her daughters name is ariana and she got the account it is kinda messed but they are good people any ways i talk to kim every day and buy/trade/sell with her so i know she is good.
kim Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9714.html Posted At 10:55:35 10/03/2001



yes my name is kim. my daughter writes the ads for me and she is ariana. ill be happy to provide refereces to anyone concerned about me no problem..who i am and what i do is no secret what so ever..hope this answers any questions anyone might have..have a great day..
Shawn Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9728.html Posted At 20:14:19 10/03/2001

NEVER MIND, I found out for myself. To make along story short. I sent a downpayment VIA paypal and was following up with a postal money order tomorrow for the balance. We discussed the weather, flight arrangments ect....Also her guarantee for live arrival. Well today she sends me a refund for the total downpayment, minus the paypal fees that I lost and minus the other chondro I lost out on because I purchased hers. So to make along story short, she sends me a picture of this animal that was also sent to me 3 months ago during a separate inquiry. I asked if it was the same animal and of course she said no ! It even had last months date stamped right on the photo. So I ran the picture through a program I have only to find last months date was added to the picture. So I don't want to have a tit for tat contest here, this is just a lesson I wanted to share with others. TRUST YOUR INSTICTS ! I had a funny feeling about this deal from day one and should not have pursued it. Anyway watch your backs , there are some bad deals !!!
Justin Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9730.html Posted At 21:04:01 10/03/2001


kim Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9732.html Posted At 21:10:54 10/03/2001


i guess now its a crime to have two of the same types of snakes for sale...lmao..one three months ago i pulled off the market and another that i sold last month to another guy.
geesh..shawn take a good look at those photos boy..they had different head patterns.. they are brothers..
and by the way..why didnt you ever want to talk to the guy that bought it?? the second snake...was there some reason you would not let him send you a photo = or speak to you on the phone ?you also refused to check any of my references out.. seems like alot of petty drama for absolutley no reason at all..i decided to give you your money back..without your requesting it..or wanting it..because i as a seller have the right to refuse service or product to whomever i chose..especially when they are playing games and wasting my time.
Ken Harbart Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9733.html Posted At 21:20:26 10/03/2001

Kudos to you Brian for being the only person in this thread that followed the rules of the site!
Justin Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9734.html Posted At 21:21:18 10/03/2001

I have done business with kim and her daughter and had no problems. i wish there were more people out there like them when it comes to purchasing reptiles online. for once i met someone who isnt in it for the money. she shows a lot of concern when it comes to finding good homes for the animals. i paid for a green tree about a month ago via paypal and had no problems!!! kim takes all the steps in making sure delivery is right and waits for condions to be perfect to insure the safety of the animal. i know for a fact she had 2 green trees for sale at the time when i purchased mine. if u have any questions or concerns feel free to email for further details.
Shawn * Sunbaked Serps* Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9735.html Posted At 21:29:51 10/03/2001

O.k. Kim lets see who can wiss the longest stream. I told you in our last email this was completly your call, So if you want to go there. Well here we are ! You are straight out lying. You never said anything about references and just with in the past 45 min. told me you were going to have this other customer (guy) contact me. I really don't care who contacts me and don't really care what he bought. My problem with you is I have 2 pictures, one from acouple days ago and one from acouple months ago. GUESS WHAT KIM, they must be identical brothers. WOW, wait a minute, the sheding skin ontop the head looks exacally the same ( how do you do that photographing?) You sound real good on paper, with your drama line. HOW FAR DID YOU GO IN SCHOOL ANYWAY??? So I'll ask you again. Would you like me to post the picture with the added date? or maybe you could post the email you sent me asking me if I'd like references?cause I was never offered that. Lets see ya caugh that one up. I am very glad you refunded my money ( Minus the couple bucks....keep it this is well worth it to expose you to the public of herpers )And I do thank you for the refund ! I guess your not a total idiot, you knew better than that. O' and you made it very clear in your email...what your calling a game , is me posting a simple question to public, asking if anyone knew of you...That's not a game Kim, that's what this board is for. If you don't like it's intent, why are you here?????? That's why you sent my money back. Like I said in my previous post. I'm glad I got my money back, I wrote, what I wrote to share my experience and thoughts with others...to follow their initial thoughts. I had bad ones of you right off the bat. THE END...unless you'd like to continue this??????
BRian Rogers Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9737.html Posted At 21:54:23 10/03/2001

thanks ken lol
Shawn Gray * Sunbaked Serpents* Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9739.html Posted At 22:19:55 10/03/2001

Thanks Ken...good point !
kim felts Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9742.html Posted At 23:03:21 10/03/2001

get a life shawn..start looking for a new snake ..this is worn out and old..you really sound like a snivvling kid.
charlie bennet Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9744.html Posted At 23:21:27 10/03/2001


Frankly i can't believe any of this conversation. Shawn has his money. Apparently there was another snake that was sold in the meantime and Shawn what difference does it make that she had the snake for sale before and released it again.
I don't understand what the issue at hand is to be honest.

charlie
Shawn Gray * Sunbaked Serpents* Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9745.html Posted At 23:21:31 10/03/2001

GOT ONE,...and fortunately a very good one.Funny you think it's worn and old. I've received afew e mails with compliments...would you like me to post them as well? Snivvling(SNIFFLING) kid, I am running a business and don't jerk people around with old pictures,lies and return funds just because I asked a simple question about your reputation on 10-02-01. That's what I call SNIFFLING KID. So either caugh it up or drop it Kim it's simple.Admit what you did or prove otherwise. BUT MAINLY TO INFORM PEOPLE OF A SOUR DEAL.
susan jones Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9746.html Posted At 23:25:21 10/03/2001



I guess business must be slow if you have all this time to be sobbing on here for hours shawn!
Shawn Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9747.html Posted At 23:38:40 10/03/2001

yes it is. Guess why????? It's not a matter of sobbing, would you apperciat it if someone sent you a picture that had been altered with a more recent day...the same picture you were sent acouple months ago...but claims it's not the same animal. Or better yet how about if some just lied about emails that never took place? I posted a simple question before I sent her any money...HAS ANYONE DOES BUSINESS WITH HER BEFORE. Because she read that...our deal was off! I could really care less about not getting the snake. I got my money back and I'm glad of it. I posted this thread and I'm glad of that as well.Have you guessed why business is slow right now???
mgummel Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9786.html Posted At 14:57:14 10/04/2001

For what its worth, I have from Shawn (green tree python) he’s a good guy to to business with, before, during and after the deal. When I buy again he will be the first I will go to because of his excellent service. Kim you may be a good herp dealer to and I mean no harm to your reputation, though I have not done business with you before I could not say. I just wanted it to be known that Shawn is a good guy and has first-rate service. The lesson learned (Trust your first instinct). Now sell some snakes Honestly
Susie Q Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9799.html Posted At 20:13:21 10/04/2001

Hey Shawn? what tree did you fall out of? It must really have done something to what's suppoe to be between your ears... I know the lady personally.....have for years.....and honey if you can't even tell the differnce between men and women you are in trouble......"O.k. Kim lets see who can wiss the longest stream." boy you better watch that you don't aim that at a fence hooked up to a fence charger or you'll get the kick of your life..... why don't your crawl back under your rock and quit acting like a little kid.... I know there were two green tree snakes.....not one........and if you weren't so obnoxious then maybe more people would do business with you.... grow up honey......
kim felts Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9801.html Posted At 20:22:59 10/04/2001


how about we conclude with this thought

not only does a buyer need to check out his seller
but a seller needs also to check out his buyer.

each has the right to terminate the arrangements and or deal if they dont feel comfortable.

thats exactly what i did..nothing else..i terminated the deal.
my buyer lost control and you see the outcome.
too bad he found it necessary to drag the herp world into his disappointment taking no responsibility for it whatsoever. i think sadly he made more of a spectacle of himself then he did of me.
Neil Gubitz - The Snake Pit - Tampa Bay, FL Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9811.html Posted At 21:11:06 10/04/2001

Kim.....You ABSOLUTELY did the RIGHT THING!!! I don't blame you ONE BIT!! All this guy is...is TROUBLE with a Capital "T" (as just proven)!! ...and Shawn.... GROW UP, man!! You MIGHT be a stand-up guy for all I know, but the way you're coming off on this thread is worse than a five-year-old!! Can you whine and swear any more??? Does your diaper need changing or something?? IF MY five-year-old daughter could type, she'd sound JUST LIKE YOU!! Only more intelligent!! SHE would know how to SPELL! Obviously, if this is how you deal with MINOR problems....I'm glad I found out now! THAT's what this forum is all about!
If you stayed in school (by the way), you'd know it's SNIVELLING!!! Try the dictionary! What a concept! Now, if you would have just sat down and TALKED with Kim...LIKE AN ADULT!!....you could have probably worked this out! But, by the "sound" of your typing, I have a strange feeling that you were very belligerent and hostile on the phone, too! Have you ever heard of "Anger Management"??? You seem to have blown this WAY out of proportion (for something you ASSUMED!!)! Don't you see how WRONG that is?? ESPECIALLY when Kim has a GOOD explanation?? If you would just try TRUSTING people a little more, you'll find that it could be VERY rewarding!! Sure, you might get burned once in a while by the unscrupulous herp dealer...but ANYBODY who wants (and IS) doing this for a living, is NOT going to risk ruining their GOOD reputation over a $200-$500 snake?? It just ain't gonna happen!! I really think you owe this lady an apology for the way you reacted here...that was totally uncalled for! My .02! ...Neil
Ritchie Luna Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9830.html Posted At 23:38:55 10/04/2001

I think we missed something here. Everyone seems quick to judge.

I think he is just upset because three months ago he inquired about an animal and got a pic. The more recently he inquires about ANOTHER animal and got the same pic.

I know some animals can look the same. but would they really have the same shed on their heads.

Alot of the posts are saying.....cry baby grow up. The grown people who wrote for him to grow up....could not even read the directions on how to post
R.W. Brennan Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9833.html Posted At 00:25:48 10/05/2001

Boy this has really gotten out of hand. Can we cut the ad hominum attacks and stick to the facts? An inquiry was made because of Shawn getting the same picture purportedly of two different snakes and some other business practices and falsehoods that made him uncomfortable. The response is one of "how DARE he question Kim's reputation?". And then all the name calling starts and the spurious posts from friends of Kim.
Its pretty simple. The deal went bad when Shawn made an inquiry here on the board. He was upset by what happened. Bad experience for him. It happens. Now lets all just play nice and kim and her cohorts can declare whatever sort of victory makes them feel good regardless of the facts.
jr james Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9841.html Posted At 07:05:32 10/05/2001

Kim must have been practically giving the snake away for all the reaction she got out of this man. This one inquiry seems to have more responses on it than who wants to help catch Osama Bin Laden. That has to be one hell of a green tree python !
jr james Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9842.html Posted At 07:11:28 10/05/2001

Does anyone know what Kim looks like? forget the snake.
Andrew Potts Re: Anyone know Babyslither@aol
9849.html Posted At 09:49:28 10/05/2001


Hello,

There are some really, really, really stupid people in this forum. I mean how many times do you have to tell these ignorant stupid idiots that first and last names are required when making a post. Not initials, not nicknames but thier real first and last names. All it shows is how selfish and immature they really are and that they are completely useless pieces of feces. Why don't those who feel they are to special to follow the rules do us all a favor and refrain from making any post in this forum. Caio. Andrew Potts

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