Inquiry Nicholas Giavasis / [email protected]

Hi all,

Has anyone ever had any dealing with this person? He has contacted me twice now on two different ads, the first time a few months ago, leading the entire conversation and asking for paypal and sending he would be sending immediate payment, and then never sending it and never responding to follow up emails..

Then again today, he inquired about a trade for some of my animals and when I wrote back with my suggested trade terms he proceeded to be extremely rude and nasty via e-mail.

Was wondering if anyone knew anything about him, the quality of his animals, or if he's a trade scammer or just likes to waste people's time and energy?

Well, in case anyone wanted to know what a rude, condescending jerk this guy appears to be, before anyone does business with him:


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I'd consider some form of trade with items on my list. I have beautiful snakes, not much more to say, beautiful specimens. I understand your snakes are priced shipped. Mine are not. Notthat I'm trying to earn more money, it's just that my list is comprised of my bare-bone prices. I never thought to include shipping. So, "if" we trade, We'd ned to calculate shipping to your area.
Here's the list:
2010 Albino, m, $300 or $275 if buying multiple

(I edited the list because it was several pages long, to the one animal I was vaguely interested in with the price)
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hide details 8:25 AM (5 hours ago)

I would be willing to do an even trade only, no extra money for shipping for a Albino Male. I just don't have the extra cash to spare and I think this pair well worth their low price. Please let me know if you're still interested,

Thanks,

Leigh
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hide details 10:40 AM (2 hours ago)

I'd have to pass. If you'd pay shipping to get the Albino to you I'd be interested. However, just last evening I discovered a source for Columbian Rainbows for only $39.99 each, sexed. Yes, they'd be younger than yours, but that would be OK with us because we have a muse colony that gives us free food for our reptiles. Even after you paid shipping you'd be making out so well it would almost be funny, crazy in fact, so for you to post yours with shipping included, and mine not having shipping included......and then you ask for that atop of a snake that will help produce $300-$500 offspring, sorry, I just can't do it. I'd have to keep in mind that your Columbian's on a good day, would produce $50 babies.......so quite a difference in "potential".
Have a wonderful day!
Nick
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hide details 10:55 AM (2 hours ago)

No need to be rude. A simple yes or no would suffice.

Thanks,

Leigh
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hide details 12:20 PM (1 hour ago)

LOL! "Rude". How was I rude. I was merely stating the obvious........that the snakes you have sell for as little as $39 (making your worth approx $79), and that their offspring sell for +/- $39, making their entire clutch worth approx $300-$350 total.
While on the other hand, the snake I have tends to sell for $250-$400 "each", and the offspring produced from my snake sells for $2800-$4000 per clutch.
The numbers do not lie. The numbers are not incorrect. The numbers are real and relevant to our subject matter. The idea that you may not have enjoyed seeing and then realizing the numbers as fact, that's a personal issue you'll need to deal with. As far as being "rude", no, I was not rude at all, I was precise, factual, professional, and to-the-point. Sometimes people have grand-illusions as to what they think their animals are worth.....and sometimes other educated people must provide 'basic' and factual information to them to wake them up to the idea that the snake they have is worth approx what common Garter (Garden) snake is worth, not in demand, and very hard to sell. If you wish to avoid or ignore facts, you should look into the mirror and tell yourself to "stop being so rude" to yourself....LOL....hey, I made a funny. Get it? Tell yourself to stop being so rude to yourself? LOL! Now tell me that's not funny ;-)
I hope you trade or sell your snakes, but they are in fact worth only around $39 each. My offer was most generous, but you are either to uneducated in the arena of reptiles to know it, or, as is with many reptile owners, you "feel" they are worth more, or, as with many others, you truly know that they are worth $39, but yet you will gleefully take advantage of some unknowing person (in which case, I would not wish to live with myself for doing such a thing, taking advantage of others....but some people, clearly yourself included.....you have no problems with such actions).

OK, there............was that more to the point for you? Was that more direct for you? And by the way, the Albino I would have traded, it is het Pastel.....and if you were educated in these areas, you would know that it has the chance to produce, actually, babies which sell for up to $2800 EACH if paired with the proper mate! So, before opening your mouth, you really should consider what you may lose due to the level of your ignorance.

Honey, have a great day!
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hide details 12:27 PM (1 hour ago)

I hope it makes you feel better about yourself to waste time to explain your nonsense and rude behavior to someone who just doesn't give a damn.

Have a great day! Please stop contacting me!
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hide details 1:15 PM (14 minutes ago)

See, and there you go again. I was merely explaining how, in my first email, I was NOT being rude. The second email, well, maybe a little.....but that was just to set the example of the difference between not being rude, and maybe being a little rude. However, the facts remain, you snakes are worth around $80, you may have been able to trade for a snake worth much much more, with so much more potential to earn you money, but you requested that a person proving such an animals, worth much more than yours, provide yet more of a benefit to you. I guess, in short, you clearly needed to be educated, which, clearly, prior to meeting me, you were not. So, I know through all of your meaningless babble, that what you're really trying to say to me is "Thank you", but you do not need to thank me Honey. I'd gladly assist you, and doing so has been personally rewarding. Now that you have a little more knowledge under your belt, go out and use it, list your snakes for around the $100-$150 (shipped) they are worth, and you'll end up having a better day, feeling better about yourself, feeling better that you were actually honest with with yourself and with others. In fact, take my lessons, apply them to your entire life, use "honestly", and you'll end up being a better person for it ;-)
Now, Sweetheart, have yourself a most wonderful day.......I insist, Honey-Bun ;-)
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I really, really dislike people that are rude and flappy for no reason. Is there a way to report sexual harassment on Kingsnake? =p

The Albino you guys are talking about, is it an Albino Ball Python or?

Because if it is an Albino Ball, there is no such thing as het Pastel. If that is what he is trying to trade you, i would stay far away.

Yes, he was claming that the albino ball baby i was interested in is het for pastel =p

He's wasted our time before and given me a "pricing lesson.." Glad to see someone bringing him into the limelight!! Thanks..

You're welcome. This made my blood boil just a little bit.

He seems to be really making a reputation for himself: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209771

Wow. Unbelievable. Thanks for sharing the new link, Deborah. I haven't heard from him on any of my ads at all since posting my thread and filing a complaint about his behavior with KingSnake, thankfully.

{OK, there............was that more to the point for you? Was that more direct for you? And by the way, the Albino I would have traded, it is het Pastel.....and if you were educated in these areas, you would know that it has the chance to produce, actually, babies which sell for up to $2800 EACH if paired with the proper mate! So, before opening your mouth, you really should consider what you may lose due to the level of your ignorance.}

An albino ball python that is het pastel?

So not only is he a jerk in email, he's also a scammer by claiming his ball python is "het pastel". GOod to know. Thank you for sharing your unfortunate experiance with him.

snakechaarmer said:

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Now, Sweetheart, have yourself a most wonderful day.......I insist, Honey-Bun ;-)

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Someone who speaks to me in this manner during a business transaction better be prepared to die......

lucille said:

Someone who speaks to me in this manner during a business transaction better be prepared to die......

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My thoughts exactly, lucille.

And ROFLMFAO about the Albino "HET PASTEL" - at that point in the conversation I was SO over talking to him I didn't even see/pay attention to that part of it.

What a freaking idiot! HET PASTEL..Lawwllll

Is this fountain of charm a member here?

Lol... I haven't seen him on here... His inq with me was on bp's; my emails in response to his were classical... I wish I had em!!

Those het for pastel snakes are hardcore man....they are worth WAY more then those het for normal snakes....I mean really guys...educate yourselves before your ignorance makes you lose out on all those amazing babies you could produce!!

His math is a little off. Het pastels run like, $2800 each in his words! So how would a clutch of em(6, let's say) only be $2800-$4000? What a steal! Ill buy whole clutches!

Troll.

dude you should have offered him more $! he clearly is in possession of the first ever het line of pastel!!!

+if male albinos are throwing 4k+ clutches right now maybe i should go grab one for $300...lol

Mr. Givasis is something else....Steer Clear! Sorry you all have had to deal with him.

LMAO!!!!!!!

Het for Pastel!!!!!

You shoulda let me know you were getting serious into balls Leigh! Ida upped my game! Those het pastels u coulda got woulda left me in the dust!!!!

Yeah, he's a real piece of work. Must try to mess with several people at a time...can't even keep up with the e-mails we just traded yesterday. Thanks for the info. I'm done with him.