Originally Posted by Varanus81 (Post 1456950)

Really!!! I mean i can clearly see mites all over that snake and on the paper below. Plus, GTP's are not dogs they don't hang around with their mouths open so there is no way the buyer could know whats going on inside the mouth of this snake. Have you ever tried to open a GTP's mouth, its not fun or easy and unless he had help from someone else who is experienced probably not possible (probably). Also, if your really a "herptologist" you would know that reptiles are masters at hiding illnesses and just because he is alive and perched with tons of mites does not prove your point. I find it very hard to believe that a snake can develop that serious of an infection in just 1 month. In fact i bet you its impossible unless it already arrived in that condition.

Finally, i find it very hard to believe that you have a vet check each of your animals before they are shipped and sold. It should be very easy for you to provide proof that these animals are checked by your vet. Please don't give us the Oh my vet doesn't give me copies since we have an arrangment or doesn't keep records and so forth. If your going to make claims like that than you should be able to back them up with proof. Not to mention that the only reason you would need a vet to check an animal before a sale is if you see something suspicious or if they are wild caught. When i see your ad's on here i see you sell everything from uros to almost any species of snake and anything else you can get your hands on. So.... I'm not suprised that this would happen its not easy to manage so many diff species all needing diff requirements especially when your getting them for a really good price (usually just means they are wild caught or came from really bad owners who just want to get ride of them, even if its for free).

Listen, you don't sound like a bad guy the fact that you had him make a donation to a friend in lieu of the payment to you shows otherwise (unless this was your intention all along). Try to put your pride aside and just do what's right. I had a similiar situtation that happened to me not to long ago so I do understand that things like this do happen, especially with snakes but those pics speak for themselves.

To anyone else reading this, I can't seem to understand why anyone would buy a GTP or other high end animal that does not have any proof of origin, background or that was not CB. Nowadays, their are tons and tons of reputable breeders of GTP's, why anyone would buy a wild caught animal is beside me. The $100 or $200 you save ends up costing you alot more in vet bills in the end and even more emotionally.

Originally Posted by Lucille (Post 1457012)

Jarrit, please give Josh my pm/email. I want to hear from him how this firing went down. To fire a young person for telling the truth is despicable :angry:

Originally Posted by Jrodmanley (Post 1457018)

the poor kid had money down on a croc monitor, he said they gave him a portion of his money back and said its no long his anymore, and that they wouldnt let him pay it off! all on his birthday. I doubt he will talk now as he is very upset. but still doesn't hate me. how can i give him you pm info?