Bad Experience with Carson Phelps of Herps Etc

Carson I hope you will consider initiating a Bad Guy thread on Steve Miles.

Yes I will start one up this evening

I can understand why Guy does not want such a bad deal. The cost of the two snakes you offered don't come near what he payed you. The math just does not ad up. It seems to me he has been way to patient with you at this point. The first offer of several snakes would have been okay atleast he could have sold them to recoupe his loss. The deal you are offering now he looses money not to mention three years of aggravation I am sure he has felt through this situation. You recently posted a huge list of available balls for sale. Why not make him a fair offer. Once you excepted his money the deal was on you. If you got ripped off that is for you to pursue not for your customer to get stuck with. He is a relatively unknown person in the reptiles so he would have to sell them lower to even get rid of them in this market. I think that should be taken into account by you when making offers. He will not be able to get the same for them that you would. Why would any body buy from an unknown person for the same price as a known breeder????? If they are worth the same why not sell them and give the man his money back?

We discuss replacing the money with reptiles
From the start

Thats between me and him no one else's business


I just talked to guy and we came to a better agreement

Banana male
He wanted a spark male I upgraded it to a puma male
A few adult female normals or some 2013 yellowbellies


This thread should have never bin put on here

And spark female

I am glad to hear you have come to a fair agreement. You are right it should never have came to him posting here. It should have been settled long ago.

This has taken several years to play out because each new deal was under the assumption that babies had to hatch. The other main factor, I paid for scaleless corns and have never been involved with Ball Pythons which is what I was offered. I was concerned over the weekend when I did not hear from Carson from email or phone, which is why I posted the thread. I wanted to make sure that Carson a I were on the same page for the deal moving forward. I just spoke to Carson on the phone an our new deal is:

1.0 Banana Ball Python
1.0 Puma Ball Python
3 Adult Normal Females or 3 2013 Yellow Belly Females

The Banana will ship when weather allows and I will receive the normal or yellowbellies by March 2014. The male Puma will be sent by July 2014.

I can not wait for this transaction to be complete. I will let everyone know once it is final.

Done deal

I'm done with this thread

Ill call ya in few day guy
Weather should let up alittle in the next week

Originally Posted by guyiv

This has taken several years to play out

Originally Posted by guyiv

I was concerned over the weekend when I did not hear from Carson from email or phone, which is why I posted the thread.

This has been going on for years but you started a Bad Guy thread on someone who has been working with you because you didn't hear from him over the weekend?

Originally Posted by herpsetc

I was in contact with mr miles for a few months and then his phones was off

I contacted my lawyer and had him send letter with 0 RESPONCE

I contacted local police and there was no one at that address

After a few months of trying nothin was accomplished

I asked guy what he wanted to do he stated he would like other reptiles
Which I have here waiting to be shipped and after there shipped I'm out the money I could have sold them for


So after its all said and done

I'm out and I can live with that

Perhaps you could post a copy of that letter your lawyer sent. Does your lawyer have a name? Why did you not post a bad guy thread when you supposedly got burned for the three grand?