Indaian Python

Well, it's attached but hardly readable. But it's there.

Here's a zoomed in version:

I haven't been able to find any kind of documentation showing it written that they cannot cross state lines. They may not be imported/exported from the country, but I can't see why it can't be transported WITHIN the country...

Do you have any documentation to show this? I'd like to know since we will be breeding Argentine boas.

CITES has nothing to do with it, it is a listed endangered species, and requires a USDI CBWP if it is sold across state lines.

Originally Posted by Intense Herpetoculture

CITES has nothing to do with it, it is a listed endangered species, and requires a USDI CBWP if it is sold across state lines.

Correct me if I am wrong, but it is listed as endangered because it is CITES I, no?

In any event, Prehistoric Pets has had them listed on their site for some time and they are marked "California Sales Only". When I inquired they told me they are CITES I and that is why. I based my information on that.

Either way, they cannot be sold across state lines without paperwork. And I daresay that isn't going to happen here. Caveat emptor.

They are CITES one, but so are alot of other things (like Pyxis spp.), and they are allowed across state lines without permits. CITES only governs animals internationally, not within the nantion. Now it just so happens that most CITES I animals are also considered an endangered species by the gov. Due to the laws of endangered species, most exotic endangered species (there are exceptions) require a USDI CBWP (captive bred wildlife permit) to send them across state lines. Now if you wish to send them internationally, that's where CITES permits come in. It doesn't surprize me that the majority of hobbyists have no idea when it comes to national and international laws. I mean, if you look at the Lacey Act, all knob-tials, fly-river turtles, bearded dragons, etc. are illegal without a doubt. As for Prehistoric Pets, the've told people in the past a USDI CBWP was not needed as all the Indian Pythons were hybrids from a bloodline mixing long ago (very likely). I guess they keep changing their opinion.

Originally Posted by Jim O

Correct me if I am wrong, but it is listed as endangered because it is CITES I, no?

In any event, Prehistoric Pets has had them listed on their site for some time and they are marked "California Sales Only". When I inquired they told me they are CITES I and that is why. I based my information on that.

Either way, they cannot be sold across state lines without paperwork. And I daresay that isn't going to happen here. Caveat emptor.

Justyn,

Thanks for educating me. As I said I was repeating what I was told.

These screen shots are from PHP's web site today. At least they appear to be complying with that law.

hey,
i live in ar and am very interested in one for my girlfriend. where are you in ar? interested in any trades?
thanks, lance

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I know that I am jumping into this late, but I just wanted to confirm that a federal permit (USDI) is required for interstate transport of CITES I animals. that means if you were to visit an out-of-state breeder/dealer's facilities (while on vacation, perhaps), or attend a nearby state's reptile show, you could purchase a CITES I animal...you just can't legally get it home. In addition, some states (like dear ol' NY) have their own regulations pertaining to endangered species. some people don't concern themselves with such things, but I wouldn't want to be the one that got caught.

Here is a pic of her...

hey,
shoot me an email.
lance

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