USARK Legal Action Against FWS Constrictor Rule

WHAT I AM SAYING , is that the case will be filed soon and you and I arent qualified to play lawyer, the precedent is national because its FEDERAL. I believe they are saying we are protected from illegal search and seizure ofproperty.again not asking for anything, except your recognition of the case at hand, to call me lazy when you have not been testifying, if you were, I would know you, you would know who I am. how is it I know andrew , and erica , terry w and his people in ohio, tommy in new orleans, I appreciate your help, but calling ME lazy now puts you out of bounds. THANKS AGAIN.THE mandates take up 200 pages of sb 310 none of them are described how to be paid for. Thanks for your concern,sb 310 is a 3 inch thick document. Robert s.

Originally Posted by ROBERT SIDERS

WHAT I AM SAYING , is that the case will be filed soon and you and I arent qualified to play lawyer

Speak for yourself, sweetheart.

Originally Posted by ROBERT SIDERS

mandates take up 200 pages of sb 310 none of them are described how to be paid for. Thanks for your concern,sb 310 is a 3 inch thick document. Robert s.

Issues such as capital punishment and the right to bear arms take up hundreds of thousands of pages. There are those right here on this site that can and do explain the issues well and can explain them to there who are interested.
It seems as if you ARE saying that you don't really have a clue and you want us all just to fork out money.
Good luck on that.

FOR THE 4TH TIME , IM NOT ASKING YOU 4 NADA, LUCILLE WHY THE BATTLEGROUND ATTITUDE TOWARDS ME? and your no lawyer or you would no better than asking for specifics on line, are you to lazy to type it on your computer. To fight this case ,is an honor for all of us, what you dont have ten bucks amth, with the power of conviction there is no sacrifice, voltaire or pat benetar i forget, thanks for the no help enjoy your jaded self ,OMG. THANKS ANYWAY. IF YOU UNDERSTOOD LAW YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT AN UNPAID MANDATE IS , IT MEANS THEY WILL RAISE TAXES TO PAY 4 SB 310 GOT THAT PERRY MASON.

Originally Posted by ROBERT SIDERS

FOR THE 4TH TIME , IM NOT ASKING YOU 4 NADA, LUCILLE WHY THE BATTLEGROUND ATTITUDE TOWARDS ME? and your no lawyer or you would no better than asking for specifics on line, are you to lazy to type it on your computer. To fight this case ,is an honor for all of us, what you dont have ten bucks amth, with the power of conviction there is no sacrifice, voltaire or pat benetar i forget, thanks for the no help enjoy your jaded self ,OMG. THANKS ANYWAY. IF YOU UNDERSTOOD LAW YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT AN UNPAID MANDATE IS , IT MEANS THEY WILL RAISE TAXES TO PAY 4 SB 310 GOT THAT PERRY MASON.

Originally Posted by ROBERT SIDERS

your no lawyer or you would no better than asking for specifics on line

So you are saying that because YOU can't answer questions on spending, I'm out of line for asking? Are the specifics are dark secret, that you can't explain, or is it that you don't have a clue?
You do not need to explain those things to me, you need to explain them to the people who's pockets you are trying to pick. Whenever you are asked for information or specifics, you tell people to go get it themselves. You ask for financial sacrifice, but refuse to explain what it is for.
You come on here, and all attempts to get you to come up with a little info are met with your own brand of hostility. You are not a representative of the reptile community, you are merely a beggar for money.

l I AM INCAPABLE OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS FIT FOR A LAWYER,AND SO ARE YOU ,HOW CAN IBE A KNOW IT ALL, IM CONFESSING THEIR ARE MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE IM ASKING YOU TO CONTACT, KNOW I NOW WHY TERRY AND ANDREW DONT COME HERE ,SO MANY TIMES IVE SAID IM NOT SEEKING YOUR MONEY , ILL PAY YOUR SHARE ANY WAY FOR THE LAWSUIT, ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU , IS SHOT DOWN , DO YOU SPEAK FOR USARK ,THEY HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HELPING OUT, INCLUDING ANDREW HIMSELF, TAKE YOUR SNOT FACED TEXAS SELF, DOWN TO THE RIVER , I MEAN COME ON YOU WERE STICKING UP FOR CRIS LAW , WHO IS HSUS , REALLY I NEED TO POST EVIDENCE OF THEIR COMPLICITY, YOUVE NEVER BEEN A HELP TO THIS SUIT, SO WE WONT MISS YOUR DONATION, KEEP IT , GLAD TO CARRY THE BALL FOR YOU.ANOTHER WEBSITE WARRIOR GONE HSUS , DEFENDING THEM R U, DONT WANT YOUR ASST .....THANKS

Originally Posted by ROBERT SIDERS

l I AM INCAPABLE OF ANSWERING QUESTIONS FIT FOR A LAWYER,AND SO ARE YOU ,HOW CAN IBE A KNOW IT ALL, IM CONFESSING THEIR ARE MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE IM ASKING YOU TO CONTACT, KNOW I NOW WHY TERRY AND ANDREW DONT COME HERE ,SO MANY TIMES IVE SAID IM NOT SEEKING YOUR MONEY , ILL PAY YOUR SHARE ANY WAY FOR THE LAWSUIT, ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU , IS SHOT DOWN , DO YOU SPEAK FOR USARK ,THEY HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HELPING OUT, INCLUDING ANDREW HIMSELF, TAKE YOUR SNOT FACED TEXAS SELF, DOWN TO THE RIVER , I MEAN COME ON YOU WERE STICKING UP FOR CRIS LAW , WHO IS HSUS , REALLY I NEED TO POST EVIDENCE OF THEIR COMPLICITY, YOUVE NEVER BEEN A HELP TO THIS SUIT, SO WE WONT MISS YOUR DONATION, KEEP IT , GLAD TO CARRY THE BALL FOR YOU.ANOTHER WEBSITE WARRIOR GONE HSUS , DEFENDING THEM R U, DONT WANT YOUR ASST .....THANKS

When someone called you out on your begging, you simply went ad hominem.
You don't know your issues, do you?

Originally Posted by WebSlave

Then obviously USARK no longer desires to have this dedicated forum on this site for their use. I am sorry that USARK "regularly looking into THIS forum" is now apparently beneath them.

Originally Posted by Skiploder

Fear not.

They'll pop in when they need donations.

Yeah.

YOU CALLED ME OUT , LUCILLE, AGAIN NOT SURE WHY, TAKE CARE ,THANKS AGAIN ON YOUR NON HELP,SOMEDAY YOU WILL READ MARCUS PROUST, THEN YOU POST THINGS, REFERENCING ARK, NOT SURE WHY , WE BOTH KNOW YOU HAVE NO ASST TO GIVE,SKIPLODER WILL PROBABLY HELP A SUIT AGAINST THE GOVT, AND RITCHIE WOULD PROBABLY HELP TO , HARD TO SAY, WE WILL WIN WITHOUT YOU. HAVE A NICE NIGHT, AND THANKS AGAIN.GLAD WE IN OHIO CAN PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS LET ME KNOW HOW ELSE WE CAN HELP.......THANKS AGAIN

Originally Posted by Crypt keeper

Wyatt come on our forum and asked us for money. I was ready with some questions. Instead of answering them, he called me a dick and told me I wasnt an active giving good person to society and he didnt need to answer my basic questions. Last time I checked $250,000 isnt a lemonade stand. You want that kind of coin, you need to be ready to answer why. HE COULDNT might I add.

I see that same pattern here. Requests for funds, without providing much information about expenditures or issues. I'm sorry that happened to you.

If anyone is asking for money, and can't answer simple questions or show some kind of proof as to where the money is going, well, that's usually not a good sign.

Fighting among yourselves isn't accomplishing anything positive.

Here is a link to a thread asking people to sign a petition. Remember this?
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...light=petition

The reptile industry needed I believe 25,000 signatures to file the petition. I don't remember the exact number of signers, but, if I remember correctly, there were only around 6,000 signatures. USARK is well aware of this, and so is everyone else. I would have to say, if they couldn't get 25,000 people to sign a petition that costs them nothing, how in the world does anyone expect the reptile world to come up with $250,000?

When USARK first came into existence, they spoiled the plans of some pretty powerful people. So that was a good thing. Hopefully their motives are still genuine.

People need to look at what has already happened. The reptile world has been attacked, and is still being attacked. Reptile owners are losing their rights almost daily. Without enough money to fight back, you can't win, and so far we have lost a lot. Don't think for one minute, both sides are not aware of this. If the pattern continues, don't be surprised if the reptile world loses a lot more. I'm not trying to sound negative here, just pointing out the facts.

"People need to look at what has already happened. The reptile world has been attacked, and is still being attacked. Reptile owners are losing their rights almost daily. Without enough money to fight back, you can't win, and so far we have lost a lot. Don't think for one minute, both sides are not aware of this. If the pattern continues, don't be surprised if the reptile world loses a lot more. I'm not trying to sound negative here, just pointing out the facts."

Well if just half the effort expended into making false claims against properly created venomoid snakes used in educational displays to comply with safety rules, had been used to fight the recent constrictor rule and others, there is no way any would have been passed. I made the same comments on this forum in 2010 or thereabouts, and was subjected to numerous hate posts as a result and the rest is history ....

Unfortunately the enemies of herpetology are well entrenched within the fraternity and as long as this remains the case, the hobby will continue to be attacked and new more punitive rules will be passed.

All the best