Neil Gubitz - An unpleasant perspective

I have just sent off this email to Mr. Neil Gubitz:

Smart move, Neil. REAL smart..... I warned you that your sneering at people was going to bite you in the butt.

I am going to refund you the balance due on your banner ad and I would like you to leave my site. I've known this all along, but you are not really a supporter of my site, and only like the amusement it gives you and a sounding board for your sarcasm. Quite frankly, I don't need it and I think my site will be far better off without you on it.

I am NOT banning you, just asking you to be on your way.

Take care.

Rich Zuchowski
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian" <blblalock@attbi.com>
To: "Rich Zuchowski" <rich@serpenco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Fw: threads


> Forwarding this to you so you have the full header info.
>
> I know you don't need me to tell you the painfully obvious, but Neil has
> obviously been playing the board for a long time now.
>
> Best,
>
> Brian
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Gubitz" <ngubitz@webtv.net>
> To: <blblalock@attbi.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:02 PM
> Subject: threads
>
>
> > This is a message from Neil Gubitz at FaunaClassifieds Forums
> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/index.php ). The FaunaClassifieds
> Forums owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of the
> email.
> >
> > To email Neil Gubitz, you can use this online form:
> >
> http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...orm&userid=840
> >
> > OR, by email:
> > mailto:ngubitz@webtv.net
> >
> > This is the message:
> >
> > Hi Terry.... PLEASE tell me you're not giving these assholes any
> credibility???.... They wouldn't know your "name" because half of them CAN'T
> READ THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!!.... Of course, If "Richard Mott" hadn't heard of
> you, you must not exist, huh??.... Give me a ****ing break! (I bet you wish
> you could say that on the site, huh?)
> > Just for the record.... I'm in YOUR corner!....
> > I'm sure you've read some of the things I've said to some of these mental
> midgets??.... Like I care??.... This won't hurt your business ONE BIT!!....
> Do this for sheer entertainent and don't even worry what's being said....
> have FUN with it.... be as sarcastic as you can get, like I do....
> >
> > Neil Gubitz
> > Tampa Snake Pit
>
>
>
>

Just for the record.... I'm in YOUR corner!....

Neil takes the side of a guy who owes people snakes.
Neil takes the side of a guy who owes people money.
Neil takes the side of a guy who tried to sell a snake to Croey Sawyer that already belonged to Corey Sawyer.

I'm sure you've read some of the things I've said to some of these mental

As has been posted in the past......
Neil tells people in private IM and private e-mails that he does not give a "f@@k" about this site and the people on it..
But when it comes time to publicly post...Neil posts the exact opposite.

Two faced? Yes.
And finally it is coming out. I was just waiting for someone else to have proof besides me.

Do this for sheer entertainent

A supporter of the site? What is he supproting? He does not respect the site. I do not see why you would support a site that you do not care about and only use it for the entertainment purpose.

be as sarcastic as you can get, like I do...

A "moderator" encouraging people to be sarcastic?

NICE

My father told me, and I tell my kids.....

NEVER, NEVER EVER, EVER, EVER...................

Never breath a word out loud (or in writing as the case may be)that you are not willing to shout from the roof tops if called out on it.

And yet, somehow it makes me sad. Y'all were all such good friends when I first came here a long time ago.

Never say something in confidence that your not willing to back up in public.

Thank You Brian.
You did the right thing.
I have been waiting for someone to do that for so long.

Ritchie
I sympathize..I do
I generally take Neil with a grain of salt, one reason why I didn't frequent the humor forum .I think Neil does maybe have good intentions somewhere in there, but I am no fool.
I still hold my reservations about the infamous SP thread
I also wonder how I would act meeting Neil face to face, after 15 or 20 minutes trying to maintain my composure and what little tact I have. The guy makes me wonder
Neil has done some good, in that there is no doubt
questionable and rude stuff also in that there is also no doubt
Two faces...seen him display a couple of them here.
comic relief...? no doubt there.
what ever the Webslave decides is what he decides ...simple? ..very! Its his site or as some would say 'His way or the highway'

I have copped some flak for saying Neil was childish a while back. I also received similar PM messages from Neil about the people on this site.

After that I just deleted any message he sent, I didn't bother wasting my time reading his sarcastic, juvenile remarks.

Justice has been done!

Scott Collien

On the post of Amazon Reptiles of Tampa, I made the remark:
After all the things going on the last year. What is the outcome if you believe everything she said??
The outcome I was thinking of, is not only who the post hurt, but who did it help? Quote: Neil Gubitz and Dave Lawson . . .riding the trails . . .TOGETHER?!?!?
How do we know that they weren't before this post started.
Here we have the robberies solved, Tom is thought to be a thief, and who looks to be the good guy? Quote from Neil:
And for all the REST of you folks out there.... YES!!!.... I accept ALL your apologies!!.... Nobody had any reason to believe me, so, I guess I owe a debt of gratitude to Angela, for giving me all the proof I need.... .. but, as I always said.... "THE TRUTH WILL OUT!!"
I guess it does.........

It saddens me that Neil had said that. There are some things I do not like on this site, but the good far out weigh the bad.
I had bought a snake from Neil, thus far, other than the weird shed it seems fine.
I will however re-think buying from him again only because I like to buy from people who not only care about their animals but is considerate to other people.
I believe and hope I am right that fauna does make a difference in ones business. I believe in people (for the most part ) and hope that they also look at the sellers personality as well as the animal.
I am sad that you are so miserable that you can only take comfort in trying to make other that way too.

Boy oh boy oh boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rich,
This is a great site. Very valuable to all of us serious herpers. I have purchased from classifieds on this site. I have learned from this site. I saw who was good and who was bad because of this site. Keep up the great work.

As far as Neil is concerned:
I have called him what he is from the beginning. A thief, cheat, liar and a swindler. I even received a warning for it from you which I have no problem with. I may even get another for this post. But its worth it. I am so glad you have asked him to stay away. He used this site for his own purposes to get his name out there. He can say this site doesn't effect his buisiness but that is a lie. Because of this site he has been able to get his name out there and get people to buy from him even at inflated prices. Its about time this site will be rid of him again. Hopefully this time for good.

Scott Cook

He can say this site doesn't effect his buisiness but that is a lie. Because of this site he has been able to get his name out there and get people to buy from him even at inflated prices.

Unfortunately I already cleared my pm boxes. Someone else sent me the same thing.

He said something along the lines of.



Don't you see what Neil is doing? Someone posts a bad experience on him. He will reply a certain way that will get everyone to jump in.....Then at the last second he will miraculously decide to do the right thing....Then in everyonce eyes he is a hero who does the right thing.

Those are not the exact words of what I have recieved a couple of times from different people.
But that is basically the gist.

I will not mention their names...because they can come forward if they want.

But I posted it because I feel they have a good point.

Like Neil has said in the past.
Bad publicity or good publicity.
Publicity is Publicity.