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Old 03-11-2010, 01:11 AM   #1
brd7666
Florida lawmakers wrapped up in ban on pythons and other animal legislation

Todays paper, St. Pete. Times

TALLAHASSEE — As a bill banning the sale and trade of Burmese pythons and other invasive reptiles came up for a vote at a House committee hearing Wednesday, sponsor Rep. Trudi Williams made a mockingly stern request: "No hissing, members."

The week before, when the bill was presented to a different House committee, members noted their approval with a tongue-in-cheek: "Yessss."

Such is the life of an animal bill trying to become law. They draw bad jokes, dramatic anecdotes and scads of lobbyists. In a year when cost is key, proposals like the python bill — with no tax dollars attached but plenty of political juice — become exceedingly popular among legislators.

"It's a good year for these kinds of bills," said Janet Bowman of the nonprofit environmental group, the Nature Conservancy, "because they don't have fiscal impact."

Williams, a Fort Myers Republican, isn't anti-animal. She shudders at another bill that could allow cities to ban pit bulls. Her pit bull-Labrador mix, Bryn, is "cute," she said.

And she dreads a hearing on a bill that would prohibit sex with animals because she finds even the thought of it revolting.

The reptile bill, she thinks, is different. This summer, a pet python squeezed a 2-year-old to death in Sumter County — the fourth python death in as many years. Pythons let loose into the wild have become an environmental terror to the Everglades, destroying the natural cycle of life and even swallowing alligators whole.

Other reptiles have also become problems. Nile monitor lizards, clawed beasts that look like small dragons, are taking over foreclosed homes in the southwest city of Cape Coral.

For years, lawmakers have sought legislative solutions to curtail the problem. The proposed ban on anacondas, Burmese pythons and other so-called "reptiles of concern'' is the most ambitious effort yet.

The bill, as written, does not have the full support of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

"We really need to be careful about the unintended consequences of banning things," said Scott Hardin, who heads the agency's exotic species section.

Hardin said he's worried the bill might lead breeders who already have pythons to abandon them in the Everglades because they will no longer be valued.

The bill might also frustrate Florida's reptile industry, said Greg Graziani of the Tampa-based Graziani Reptiles Inc. Some retailers are still reeling from a 2008 law requiring new owners of dangerous reptiles to microchip them and pay $100 licensing fees.

In two years, fewer than 400 licenses have been distributed in the state. No one kept data on which reptiles were sold before the 2008 law, but Hardin said it's not a stretch to estimate that tens of thousands have been sold since the exotic species started being exported from Vietnam in the mid 1990s.

Banning further imports won't eradicate South Florida's Burmese python problem. A single snake can produce 50 eggs in a year, so the population has become entrenched over the last decade.

Don Anthony, spokesman for the Fort Lauderdale-based Animal Rights Foundation of Florida, which supports the bill, hopes the ban will prevent other invasive animals such as the anaconda and the African rock python from making the state home the way that Burmese pythons and iguanas have.

"This is one of the most important laws they could pass this session," Anthony said.

Significant though the issues might be, presentations of animal bills always seem to wind up sounding campy. Rep. Luis Garcia, a Democrat of Miami, quoted Clint Eastwood when presenting his bill that would toughen penalties for those who buy or sell horse meat ("Hang 'em high," he joked.)

And Sen. Eleanor Sobel, a Fort Lauderdale Democrat sponsoring the reptile bill in the Senate, has given out snake-shaped bath toys she bought at a dollar store in Hollywood during her discussion of the issue.

The small snakes expand up to 600 times when put in the water — much like the reptiles of concern themselves, which can grow up to 12 feet.

"I thought this was good representation of what's happening," Sobel said. "It's a joke, but we all recognize that these are serious issues."

here is the link

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environ...lation/1078847

 
Old 03-11-2010, 08:46 AM   #2
Twizted Paths
Nice to know the animals I love are just a joke to them, especially the hypocrite with the pit mix.
 
Old 03-11-2010, 03:01 PM   #3
Flatlander
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Originally Posted by Twizted Paths View Post
Nice to know the animals I love are just a joke to them, especially the hypocrite with the pit mix.
My thoughts exactly.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 01:32 AM   #4
Jason01
The number of fatal dog attacks in the USA has been going up. The yearly average was 17 in the 1980s and 1990s; as stated above, there were 33 deaths in 2007, 23 in 2008, and 30 in 2009.
The Humane Society of the United States said including Wednesday's death, at least 12 people have been killed in the U.S. by pet pythons since 1980, including five children.

Why not ban dogs while you are at it. I don't even own a snake, but this bill seems very unfair. By the way I am not for banning dogs either.
 
Old 03-12-2010, 01:48 AM   #5
JordanAng420
So...a question about this lunatic with the pitt mix...

What the heck does beastiality (sp?) have to do with anything about reptile legislation? What on earth is that paragraph all about? That was a little disturbing. :/
 
Old 03-12-2010, 03:16 AM   #6
Twizted Paths
But she does love her dog remember...
 
Old 03-12-2010, 01:37 PM   #7
reptirus
4 deaths in 4 years do to snakes.... We could easily list 1000 things that are totally legal to do that have killed more than 4 people in 4 years. I dont own any snakes, but I still think this bill is totally ridiculous. The fact that the people voting on the bill are making a mockery out of it also? Why is this bill still even around, its just a big joke to the law makers...
 
Old 03-13-2010, 02:43 AM   #8
WingedWolf
At least the FFWCC isn't supporting it, and the article made mention of why the ban is a bad idea.
 

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