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Old 02-16-2011, 11:24 PM   #1
snakemami
Does anyone know hussler1984@yahoo.com

I got an email from this guy about buying some snakes I had listed for sale. We emailed and he "promised" me he was going to pay for the mojave. Then today he emails me and says he wants 2 females but isn't going to get the mojo. He asks me to give him a total and he will pay pal me right away. I did and haven't heard from him at all. I should have trusted my first instinct, but was giving him the benefit of the doubt...
Does anyone know this person???
Conversation is listed below:

Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
From:
jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
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To: hussler1984@yahoo.com
Are you sending the pay pal payment like you said?

From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 8:18:34 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

I took a look at my collection, and I need a few more girls. I want the light female and cocoa, but unfortunately I can't use the mojo after all. If that's cool send me a price on both of them shipped and ill paypal you right this minute
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:13:57 -0800 (PST)
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

STITCH NORMAL - BUSY PATTERN FEMALE 09 365 FT RATS JAMESON X PORK CHOP PAIRING

PORK CHOP NORMAL - LIGHT COLORED FEMALE 07 1808 Proven Breeder FT RATS CB PURCHASE
COCOA PEBBLES NORMAL - GRANITE TYPE - DINKER FEMALE 07 1007 LIVE RATS CH IMPORT
SPECK NORMAL - BLACK BACK MALE 08 969 FT RATS STIPPEY X MILDRED PAIRING
JAMESON MOJAVE MALE 07 1151 FT RATS Proven Breeder CB PURCHASE
From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 8:11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

What are the weights on the girls
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:59:11 -0800 (PST)
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale


Speck is the black back male. If you want the mojave, cocoa and speck... together shipped for all three will be $500
From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 7:42:50 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

Coco and speck, how much for them both shipped
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:33:32 -0800 (PST)
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

Check out the light colored normal female. She is called pork chop and nice size...

From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
To: Alanna <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 7:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

Do you still have the granite female?
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-----Original Message-----
From: Alanna <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:16:39
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

I will send as soon as I get home from work.

Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G

hussler1984@yahoo.com wrote:

>Can you send pics of the females again I accidentally erased them
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:39:18
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>ok I will take your word for it then and hold him till Thursday when you pay for
>him.
>>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 9:29:44 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>I'm waiting on funds, somehow I overspent my cash, and I'm getting a small
>paycheck in a day or so I planned on contacting you then to let you know if the
>mojo was the only one on my list
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 18:21:58 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>I haven't heard back from you with regard to the snakes you want and I didn't
>get a deposit on the mojave. Did you make a decision?
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 7:09:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>Will do!
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:45:09 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>ok sounds good.. just let me know...
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 3:21:08 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>I'm on the road right now I'm going to take a look in a bit , thank you
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:55:37 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>Did you see anyone else you like? Since you are going to do a deposit on the
>mojo, I want to give you first choice on the other ones....
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 2:34:18 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>Ill see if he's the only one I want let me look at the pics again
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:32:18 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>shipping is 65.12 for the box.. .. did you only want the mojo?
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 2:25:13 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>78114
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:23:14 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>Yes that is fine.. pay pal is jetschick904@yahoo.com
>
>What is your zip so I can calculate shipping costs and send you a final bill for
>the mojo guy
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 2:21:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>Yes I will, but the only way I can is by e check is that ok
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:20:05 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>Can you send a $25 or $50 deposit via pay pal?
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 2:14:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>My cell is (removed for his privacy) I promise ill take him but thursday is my payday
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:57:53 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 11:54:22 AM
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>I'm also interested in the light colored mojave, may I get better pics
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>________________________________
>
>From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 04:48:51 -0800 (PST)
>To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>sorry I won't do that. She is paid for and will be shipping out tomorrow.
>
>How about considering the dinker granite girl?
>
>________________________________
>From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
>To: jetschick904@yahoo.com
>Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 1:15:37 AM
>Subject: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale
>
>*************
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>
>I know maia is sold but ill give you 300 for her
>
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:44 PM   #2
hussler1984
please excuse this thread

my phone died that day and i ended up buying the snake from this person, and they never told me that they posted this! then i asked if they can remove it because i did keep my word, and i was told when the paypal e check clears they will remove it! so with that said i cancled the e check

look:Fri, February 18, 2011 11:47:38 AMRe: Please read
From: Alanna <jetschick904@yahoo.com> Add to Contacts
To: hussler1984@yahoo.com


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It was an inquiy only and I will removewhe I get home from work as long as you are continuing the transaction. If you stop the transaction then I will have to make sure I post that as well.

Sent from my Samsung Epicâ„¢ 4G

hussler1984@yahoo.com wrote:

>Can you please remove the stuff on the internet about me
>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry
 
Old 02-23-2011, 09:15 PM   #3
LauraB
So uh .... your phone died that very day, but you bought the snake ... but you didn't buy the snake because you cancelled the e-check because of this inquiry Alanna posted?
Did I get that right?

It doesn't matter if you bought her snake or not, her inquiry will not be removed from the BOI. She can post that you followed through on the purchase, but she can't remove her initial inquiry.
House rules.
 
Old 02-23-2011, 09:19 PM   #4
Foschi Exotic Serpents
Collin, it was just an inquiry. To say I will pay you right this minute and then nothing, an inquiry is not entirely unreasonable. Your phone died. Ok that's fine. Maybe the OP should have waited a day at least to post this but the point is, it isn't a bad guy thread in any way.

Buy getting offended enough to cancel payment, you made yourself look bad.. Had the transaction gone through, the OP would have publicly announced that on this thread. It would have actually turned into a good guy thread in a way. Plus, you would have had your email here and people would remember you as a legit buyer.

By doing this, you have showed impatience. Really both of you did. Sellers do not sell to impatient people or vindictive people.
 
Old 02-23-2011, 09:19 PM   #5
Suncoast Herpetological
So let's look at the progression here

1. You locked in an animal on the 13th and promised a deposit. Even asked for more pics!
2. You never sent said deposit
3. On the sixteenth you backed out on the original purchase and asked for two more animals.
4. You then promised to send payment "right this minute" and six hours later you still had not.
5.You now say you eventually sent the money by E-Check but a couple of days later when you realized they had posted an inquiry and would only correct it after the Echeck cleared, you canceled the Echeck and backed out on the entire transaction after jerking the seller around for the better part of a week?

This thread is well deserved Collin.....you earned it.

Incidentally, nothing gets deleted from the BOI...it's here to stay
 
Old 02-23-2011, 09:33 PM   #6
snakemami
Well funny you should mention that..I listed some snakes for my friend as she is moving, and you make me an offer to buy a snake that was already sold for more money. I said no and you then promise to buy the male mojave. I asked you for a deposit and you said yes, but then you never send it. This was on Sunday the 13th as seen here:

From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:23:14 -0800 (PST)
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

Yes that is fine.. pay pal is jetschick904@yahoo.com

What is your zip so I can calculate shipping costs and send you a final bill for the mojo guy

From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 2:21:03 PM
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

Yes I will, but the only way I can is by e check is that ok
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 11:20:05 -0800 (PST)
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message about: Ball Python Adults for sale

Can you send a $25 or $50 deposit via pay pal?

Then you want the 2 females and the male, then you back out of the male... Then you say you will send me a pay pal right away... but you didn't so I send out an inquiry several days after the first promise of a pay pal deposit, not right away. I did this because I needed to know if you were serious, as there were several people interested and you had already burned me once. It wasn't a bad guy thread, although now I wish it was.
I also got this email from another seller who was inquiring about the buyer who saw my inquiry thread. I co-incidentally got the email from the buyer saying that he was canceling the pay pal right after I got this.

From:
<magickalmorphs@gmail.com>
Add to Contacts
To: jetschick904@yahoo.com
Hi there. Just wanted to forward this along.

I was contacted last night about captive hatch animals I have for sale. There was no name given anywhere (pet peeve of mine), so I did a quick google search for the email address to see if there was feedback on the guy and came up with the thread you'd created.

I sent a copy of my terms and conditions since my website has been down for almost a year, and gave him my paypal address. And wouldn't you know it, no payment on the snakes.

What's this person doing, just picture collecting? Ugh, time wasters..

~ Shadera

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: Dinkers
To: Shadera Lorrain <magickalmorphs@gmail.com>


believe it or not I just bought a snake from him yesterday. I wish there was some way to pull my money before he gets it! He dident show any of the messages he was sending me from the other email address he had! Gosh, that's disappointing! I also purchased a snake from dan gibidies, and josh from outback!
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
From: Shadera Lorrain <magickalmorphs@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:40:05 -0500
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dinkers

Since you didn't bother to give me a name on any communications, I hope you don't mind that I did a quick search for your email address to try and find out who you are. (Sorry, pet peeve of mine when no name is given..)

I would hope you're not going to string me along like you've been doing to this guy:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=227457
That's just really NOT cool to do to a seller.

Shadera



On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:35 AM, <hussler1984@yahoo.com> wrote:
Karma and the dinker male! I want them
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From: Shadera Lorrain <magickalmorphs@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:25:31 -0500
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dinkers

Pictures as promised.

All 4 of them were imported by David Fernandez, and I have had them since they were babies. Mr. Fernandez no longer imports captive hatch, so this kinda stuff has gotten very tough to find. I'm nuts for even thinking about letting them go without proving them out myself. I genuinely think all have serious potential, if put to the right morph to bring it out.

Asking price is $300 each, and that's firm. (Doesn't include shipping.)

In order of pictures:

2009 male. I have a normal female he's been breeding since October that is well on the way to producing some eggs from him this year, so he might be proved soon. I would consider a package deal on the two of them.

2009 female.

2008 female.

2008 female.

Females are over 1200 grams minimum, and the male I haven't weighed lately but he's an eager breeder. They eat FT rats.

Let me know if anything strikes your fancy.

Shadera

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:00 AM, <hussler1984@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thank you
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-----Original Message-----
From: Shadera Lorrain <magickalmorphs@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:03:28
To: hussler1984@yahoo.com<hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dinkers

Hi.

I'm only interested in the animals I have listed as looking for.

I'm working in the snake room right now, will send a few pictures in a bit.

Shadera

On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:54 PM, hussler1984@yahoo.com wrote:

> I'm looking for female dinkers! And I want to see the ones you have! Also are you interested in a ghost female 950 grams
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


And additionally this is the correspondance I got with regard to the original poster...Re:
From:
"hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Add to Contacts
To: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
I emailed you a number of times and I did not lie! Go ahead and post what ever you want I hope others realize the type of person you are and look past it. Also I only buy snakes here and there for my own collection. I never plan on selling them! So post away and get a life
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
From: jetschick904 <jetschick904@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:06:19 -0800 (PST)
To: <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:

I received an email from another person you were planning on buying a snake from. They sent me your emails saying you were backing out of my deal. Since you are doing this, and lied about trying to get a hold of me, I plan to post everything about this transaction on fauna to make sure I make others aware of your tactics. My friend lost 2 sales due to you.

Not good at all.

From: "hussler1984@yahoo.com" <hussler1984@yahoo.com>
To: jetschick904@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 12:07:59 PM
Subject:

Unfortunately because I could not get ahold of you I put a stop to the deal we had. I wish it would have turned out differently
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


So Colin, I now know I have no interest in selling to you, and that is fine.. but I want to make sure that others know what your tactics are and hopefully save them some trouble like it did for the other seller who inquired with me.
 
Old 02-23-2011, 09:48 PM   #7
hussler1984
Im not even going to take the time to defend my self because i feel bombarded by negative energy! YALL WIN! obousiusly im out numbered. As a new member i quickly realize im not welcome.


 
Old 02-23-2011, 09:51 PM   #8
snakemami
Colin, you would feel welcome and wanted if you would have done the right thing and finished the transaction.. You still have that ability. And I will gladly say you are a good guy for doing the right thing and not screwing over my friend who lost 2 sales on these animals because you wanted them.
However, by being underhanded and deciding to cancel a transaction shows me you really have no desire to do this...

I will leave it up to you... finish the transaction and I will post a good guy thread personally and show everyone on the BOI that you are a person of your word? Or leave it as it is......
 
Old 02-23-2011, 10:24 PM   #9
hussler1984
PARTY TIME

:? party::
 
Old 02-23-2011, 10:28 PM   #10
hussler1984
:? party::?
 

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