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Old 07-14-2011, 06:48 PM   #1
GreenTreePython13
Locality crosses

Ok so I have years of experience owning and caring for boas of all species, but when it comes to breeding I've only bred Dumerils. I'm thinking about doing red tails soon since I have so many, but I have a few questions and concepts that I don't really understand. First of all, is crossing localities of red tails (Colombian, Central American, Hogg Island, etc) like crossing locals of other species? I breed Green Tree Pythons and it's really no big deal when you cross those locals. But I mentioned once pairing my CA with a Colombian and someone flipped and was like "Why would you create muts! No one would want those, its stupid to breed a CA with anything other than a CA.." blah blah blah.

So I guess what I'm asking is, is it really that big of a deal to have a mixed local boa?

Also, pretend I were to do a CA x Colombian pairing. Assuming there are no hidden genes for morphs or anything, would the litter come out with some babies looking like mom and some like dad and some like both? Or...how does that work?

I'm mostly asking this because the female that I want to breed is a CA and I have LODES of males her size but none are CA. I do have access to pairs that have produced before that are the same local, but those guys are 9+ft and I don't want to end up with a hundred babies, and I don't have room for them in my house, where I would move them to if I wanted to breed. My CA is only around 6ft and is already established in my house and I do have space for a male around the same size.

And for fun, here's my female, Diamond

 
Old 07-14-2011, 08:29 PM   #2
ShadowAceD
Mutts do not sell well on the market, nor do they serve any true purpose in terms of morphs. Most of them end up as pet store rejects to be sold to an uneducated buyer who will either kill it with poor husbandry, dump it when it decides it does not want to deal with it or, on the very rare instance, end up with a hobbyist who just wants to keep it as a pet.

It really just does not make any sense to intentionally do it.

CA Boas look great as CA Boas and Colombian Boas look great as Colombian Boas.

There is also the issue of people crossing near habitat extinct or habitat extinct animals, further ruining the already delicate state of their lineage and bloodlines. At the end of the day, people can argue for or against it until they are blue in the face, but the breeder will do whatever they want to do.

Should just really make it an informed decision before you decide.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 12:44 PM   #3
AbsoluteApril
some people like mutts (locality integrades) but a lot of people don't. They tend to not sell as well, especially depending on the cross. Locality cross (CA-BCixCol-BCi) aren't as bad in some people's eyes as something like BCoxBCi or BCcxBCi. They are out there though, Sunsets are hypo BCi x hog isles (BCi locality cross). Roswells are from a Suri x Colombian (subspecies cross). Heck the majority of hypos are locality crosses, all salmon lines originate back to a panamaian boa (if I had know this back in the day, I wouldn't have gotten into hypos but they are now my favorite morph. Those are the only crosses I work with, I try to avoid crosses as much as possible).

In my opinion, get a nice CA male for your girl, there's lots of cool CA morphs (bloods, leopards, anery, t-pos, CA motley).

Aren't there also a lot of GTP locality purists that don't like crosses? Regardless I'm sure you do understand the importance of lableing localities correctly and as honestly as possible since you work with GTPs.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 09:44 PM   #4
GreenTreePython13
Thanks for the input guys!

April- GTP local crosses are not as big of a deal anymore. Personally, I like crosses because you can get the great colors of a Biak with the great temperament of an Aru!

And I actually did buy her a beautiful CA male, but her suffered neuro damage during the shipment so he had to be put down...
 

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