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04-10-2015, 09:15 AM
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Those are all prescription-only in the US. If you don't trust the one vet then you'll have to find another to treat your snakes.
Also, just because an animal dies doesn't mean the vet isn't any good. Sometimes there's nothing the vet can do.
Did you have a necropsy done on the baby that passed away? Did it also have RI?
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04-10-2015, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CreatureFreak
Wondering if anyone knows where to buy antibiotics
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Not injectable, but oral antibiotics are available inexpensively without a prescription courtesy of a loophole that permits those owning fish to purchase them without a prescription. The loophole has been turned into big business and there are sellers on Ebay that offer a selection of antibiotics. A real boon for preppers and the like.
I am in no way advising treatment,I am not a vet; I am merely answering your question.
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04-11-2015, 07:28 PM
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Did the culture show if it was a viral or bacterial infection, and if bacterial, which antibiotics would work on it?
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04-11-2015, 11:39 PM
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So...as a physician, I'm gonna jump in here...how did an X-ray diagnose an upper respiratory tract infection (as you termed it URI)? By definition, a URI is a viral infection, which would be culture negative on agar plates, so antibiotics would be useless. An X-ray would not show anything on a URI. If you are studying to be a vet, then you know that physical exam and appropriate testing are essential to good medicine. If you are in vet school, then you have access to the labs/clinics at your school, as well as your clinical professors and they should be able to guide you. If you are in undergrad and are "pre-vet", then you have a lot to learn.
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04-12-2015, 07:26 AM
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you understand why they are reluctant to give definitive advice without examination, right? for the moment, it's a pain in the butt for you...once you're a practicing veterinary physician, you'll make the same decision. even vets get dinged with malpractice and/or get called before their medical board for inappropriate practice patterns. meaning that you gotta have a legitimate physician/patient relationship established in order to treat....
having said that, i can add (and you may or may not already know this, so disregard if you do) sounds like you're getting traction w fortaz against the pseudomonas. the providencia, at least in my world, tends to be more nosocomial..and typically gastrointestinal type stuff. but, if it showed up on culture, you may need to deal w it. in theory, the fortaz should have activity against that as well. idk what your sensitivity showed. reptile physiology is pretty sketchy when it comes to antibiotic metabolism. you prob already know this, but injections in snakes can be precarious...make sure you know exactly what you're doing. funky renal-portal system.
also, i'm guessing you've addressed husbandry issues that may have contributed? temps and humidity changes/corrections? sanitizing enclosures? not trying to bust on you, just trying to give suggestions as you have asked for. i hope all works out, best of luck.
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04-12-2015, 10:59 PM
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Definitely understand the moral problem of giving advice without examination, they could do some serious damage if I had reported or mistook the symptoms as well. I have only enough fortaz to treat one snake sadly. So far the treatments have gone well and that snake seems to be healing.
I'm doing what I can for the others without fortaz and they are seeming to improve, but I just don't think a ball python would be able to get rid of two bacterias that strong without antibiotics. I am researching to try and find anything similar if no one knows where I can buy fortaz. (I found a powder version, but just don't want to screw up the chemistry mixing myself, being inexperienced with the specific molecular properties etc, though it's probably doable).
My animals were all kept in sanitary conditions, proper heat, hide, humidity, eating well; the only problem was I bought from someone untrusted and four out of my collection (housed near snake A) contracted mites from this snake(the one who died). These then transferred the infection from the sick snake. I stopped the mites before they got to the rest of the snakes and lizards, but hoping to cure the three now infected(who didn't see the vet).
Luckily I was shown by my exotics vet and coworkers how to do injections, so I have been giving them successfully on snakes other than my own before I ever had to utilize this treatment process.
I would like to treat the ones whom I know are infected with the same fortaz/metronidazole just so that the treatment is uniform for all sick snakes and the healing one doesn't somehow get reinfected from the quarantined ones. But one vet told me metronidazole wouldn't be his preferred method, then never emailed me a more specific suggestion.
I have read about baytril helping with stomatitis, but not sure if this will really combat the two bacterias and overall infection...?
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