Couple looking for FWB in MD/DE/PA/NJ

Ok so i read this quote on the header for the forum

Looking for someone with a common interest? Why not go where they hang out? Have fun, but not TOO much fun in here

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And that fits, since me and my wife are looking for someone with common interests.

I had wondered if i should post this or not, but since i honestly dont care what others think about me and the things i do behind closed doors., im posting anyways. For those of you who might find this offensive *STOP READING NOW* I like to enjoy my life, so does my wife, and we're not restricted by society's stereotypical sexual "Norm".

Im 27 and my wife is 22. We're looking for a bi-female in the MD/DE/south/south-eastern PA/South NJ area. We're a highly affectionate couple who likes to sit back, relax and enjoy life. We're friendly, easy going, OUT going, compassionate, caring, loving and have a pretty good sense of humor. Neither of us take life too seriously, everything with a grain of salt as they say. If we have someone else in the relationship (another female) we usually tend to focus our attention on them. So, if you like being shown ALOT of affection, can enjoy sexual relations with both sexes and can remove the bounds of "normalcy" then you need to shoot me a PM and we'll talk. No need to post here if you are worried about what people may think (Oh boy im soooooo scared, LoL).

I know alot of people are going to want to say something about this post, but please know that i've already heard hundreds of lectures before (especially from my mom and family). But i havent changed, won't change.. More along the lines of "refuse" to. Because im the only Chris Altizer i'll ever be, and if i can't be me, then who can?

Hope to hear from you ladies soon. If you have any questions, just ask, i'll answer publicly or private, your choice!

Why do people have to put their bedroom life out in the public view? Chris, do what you want to do but for the love of Pete, keep it quiet. Nobody here wants to know that you and your wife are swingers, bi's whatever. All anyone here wants to know is that you have a love of reptiles and to be able to learn from and teach alongside you.

You know full well this is not the appropriate forum to attract sexual trists etc. Why in the world you think it belongs here probably explains why a lot of people have had issues with you. Lack of common sense, or maybe even decency. Keep it in the bedroom.

Griz

This is a first, and as we have gone along in this forum I have made up general guidelines.
Here's what I have so far:

No one under 18; not posting, not anything. This is not a forum for minors.

No porn. There's a lot of kidding and innuendo, but there is no down and dirty description here and that is the way it is going to stay.

That being said, there's a lot of room for differences here. Bob, I understand you, Chris, I undertand you too.

I suggest that if the contents of a post is not your thing here, skip over it. As long as the poster works within the framework I have set up, they have as much right as anyone else to post, just ignore the post if it does not pertain to you.

This thread should not deteriorate into a long argument about sexual mores, right and wrong, open versus secret. If you wish to answer Chris' offer, email him. Am I going to answer it? No, I'm not. I personally do not believe in 'open marriages'.
But as long as his posts are clean and there are no minors involved, the post will stay.

Thanks Lucille! Figured there would be a few people that didnt agree, but that's why i care not what others think of me or what i do. If i ran my life by what people thought i should do, can you imagine the havoc and chaos that would be my life? Trying to change every few days to a new person's opinion. Like i stated in my original post, if this may be offensive to you

*STOP READING HERE* Maybe i should've made it easier to see, i thought it was fairly visible.

Although you would get more

response on a site like Friend-finder or Friend Alt than here ! LOL !

LOL, I think this would be more appropriate on craigslist, don't you Lucille?

Chris... you have my deepest sympathy and I will pray for you.

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Is this really the kind of stuff that is appropriate for Fauna? This is supposed to be a herp site, not a swingers message board!

No need to pray for me, and i definitely dont need sympathy. I enjoy life, and if you guys are all so shallow and close minded that you can't accept someone for who they are, then it is I who pity you.

And isnt this the place where herpers come to meet other herpers (similiar interests), since i know i seen posts with title's such as " 25 Male something or another in *insert state*" which would lead me to believe this is, something similiar to a dating forum. So because someone's sexual preferences are different than your own, they are an outcast and devoid from common sense or decency? I fail to see the reasoning in that. Especially since our country so vehemently promotes individuality!

Why does it feel like someone's trying to put me in The Matrix. With a million people in the same black suit and the same hair style. Talking on the same cell phone with the same brief case.. And im the guy with the white lettered t shirt and the light denim blue jeans in the middle of the street.

No need to pray for me, and i definitely dont need sympathy. I enjoy life, and if you guys are all so shallow and close minded that you can't accept someone for who they are, then it is I who pity you.

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Chris... I understand what you are saying. I am NOT closed minded, and I am about the furthest from shallow that a person can be. I do love my husband, and have not one even slight urge to be with anyone else. The reason I said you have my sympathy is because I feel sorry that you have the need or urge or whatever you want to call it to be with someone other than the person that you are married to. I love my husband and I cannot imagine ever wanting someone else as long as he breathes the same oxygen I do. I guess the reason I feel sorry for you is because you (and your wife) need or want another in your relationship to be satisfied. That is very sad, to me.

And isnt this the place where herpers come to meet other herpers (similiar interests), since i know i seen posts with title's such as " 25 Male something or another in *insert state*" which would lead me to believe this is, something similiar to a dating forum. So because someone's sexual preferences are different than your own, they are an outcast and devoid from common sense or decency? I fail to see the reasoning in that. Especially since our country so vehemently promotes individuality!

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Yeah this is the place where herpers can hook up with other herpers but I feel that your post better belongs on a swingers forum; there are lots of them out there, I am sure you know all about them

Why does it feel like someone's trying to put me in The Matrix. With a million people in the same black suit and the same hair style. Talking on the same cell phone with the same brief case.. And im the guy with the white lettered t shirt and the light denim blue jeans in the middle of the street.

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I DON'T feel that everyone should be the same and conform to "the Man's" rules or way of life. I am a hippy at heart and although I completely do not understand your lifestyle, I have no problem with what you do behind closed doors. It's just the fact that you are advertising on this site for a sex partner! There are plenty of appropriate places to engage in this and I guess I just don't feel like Fauna Classifieds is one of them. But hey, that is up to Lucille and Rich, what I say is just my opinion (yeah, I have one too) and if they say it's ok to post such stuff here then have at it!

KelliH said:

LOL, I think this would be more appropriate on craigslist, don't you Lucille?

Chris... you have my deepest sympathy and I will pray for you.

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Is this really the kind of stuff that is appropriate for Fauna? This is supposed to be a herp site, not a swingers message board!

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I don't think it is. I mean this is the lonely hearts club. Married (lonely hearts?), I guess that would explain the need for a third. I wouldn't think it was appropriate either, but I guess that's why this isn't my forum. I guess one of the "rules" in this forum is you are suppose to be 18 to post, but what about to read? I hope so, as it's my personal opinion this should not even be seen by minors, let alone posting, as this forum is part of faunaclassifieds. I was asked to remove my sig, as it supposedly reflected bad on faunaclassifieds, I wonder how this type of stuff that is more appropriate on a swinger or hustler site, reflects on fauna. Yet another reason not to "utilize" this specific forum, even though as a single person it would be great to have a venue to reach herp minded single ladies.

I have no problem persay with what you're asking here Chris, to each their own.

However, I truly do not think Fauna is the appropriate place to be advertising for a sex partner.

Well, I will keep this simple and address a few quick issues:

Chris:

Do not flatter yourself into thinking that anyone here cares what you do behind closed doors. Being with two women at once makes you feel like a man? That's nothing but a sign of a marriage that is destined for failure. That, and lack of maturity. I personally say that making love to the same woman 1000 times and making each time feel like the first is more a sign of "being a man" then 2 women at once. Your behavior is what we see in dogs, not responsible adults.

But, with that aside, this has nothing to do with your personal flavors. Rather, this is about your perverted desire to bring this to a public reptile forum. This type of garbage does not belong here, period. You are not soliciting companionship, you are solicited sex. Plain and simple. The only difference between this and prostitution is that at least the prostitutes are smart enough to not "give it away".

Lucille:

I love you girl but you are off your flipping rocker. Chris is blazingly soliciting for sex and you somehow feel that is fitting for this forum. This is the lonely hearts forum, not the lonely penis forum. This forum is to bring people together for potential companionship, friendship, and maybe the occasional pity party to drown out the blues. This is NOT a forum (obviously my opinion) for someone to outright, blazingly, in your face, solicit sex. What Chris does in his bedroom is between him and his wife but it does NOT need to be brought to a public forum. I am sincerely hoping that I am wrong here but how does Fauna stop someone under the age of 18 from viewing this thread? I do not remember registering that I was over 18 so that I could view this. Again, I hope I am wrong here as if a minor was to view Chris thread then what in the world would they think? There are plenty of other forums for Chris to seek his fulfillment.

Kelli:

There is a saying that if you remember the 60's you weren't there. Well, I remember them but not because I was there. But, I am glad we have people like you who walked through those times and still remain someone to whom I look up to! You are a wonderful person and I admire that!

Griz

whether a sex site or not

it's FREE ! LOL ! I'm paying good money at this time trying to find a companion/friend with benefits of the opposite sex on other sites. I bet you all that this thread will accumulate with time because as i have seen other threads remotely mention SEX or the " Lonely Heart Club " section here that has gravitated toward some kind of sex related issues and let's not forget that HUGH thread of " DO YOU SHAVE " ! While I don't know this poster on this original thread, I give him thumbs up and a hand clap for his gall and bravery of posting within the legal ramifications of this site. Also the latter for his individualism of thinking, wanting and his whelms of how the world turns. Last but not least........I also applaud him for no matter what others think attitude LOL ! Heck in the next several days I will be thinking of adding MY wants and desires of what I'm looking for at this time in context of a sex partner. ( but for different reasons as in friend with benefits ).

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it's FREE ! LOL ! I'm paying good money at this time trying to find a companion/friend with benefits of the opposite sex on other sites. I bet you all that this thread will accumulate with time because as i have seen other threads remotely mention SEX or the " Lonely Heart Club " section here that has gravitated toward some kind of sex related issues and let's not forget that HUGH thread of " DO YOU SHAVE " ! While I don't know this poster on this original thread, I give him thumbs up and a hand clap for his gall and bravery of posting within the legal ramifications of this site. Also the latter for his individualism of thinking, wanting and his whelms of how the world turns. Last but not least........I also applaud him for no matter what others think attitude LOL ! Heck in the next several days I will be thinking of adding MY wants and desires of what I'm looking for at this time in context of a sex partner. ( but for different reasons as in friend with benefits ).

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This is precisely my point Lucille. The proverbial hounds of hell will now flood this site since the door gate is being allowed to remain open. With all of the hard work Rich, you and the other mods have put into this site to "maintain a certain amount of decorum", I would think you would want to keep a tighter reign on this particular issue. It's nothing short of pathetic when people want to take advantage of the generosity of Rich etc to satisfy their sexual whims. Take it to a different site guys and allow Fauna to flourish in the reptile community, not the man seeking man community. It just does not belong here. If nothing else, send it to Hell where it's more appropriate!

Griz

I personally say that making love to the same woman 1000 times and making each time feel like the first is more a sign of "being a man" then 2 women at once. Your behavior is what we see in dogs, not responsible adults.

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I agree 100%.

There is a saying that if you remember the 60's you weren't there. Well, I remember them but not because I was there. But, I am glad we have people like you who walked through those times and still remain someone to whom I look up to! You are a wonderful person and I admire that!

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Hey Griz, well I was born in 1972 so I kinda missed the sixties, but I have always felt I was born at the wrong time, you know?

Well then.....

Heck in the next several days I will be thinking of adding MY wants and desires of what I'm looking for at this time in context of a sex partner. ( but for different reasons as in friend with benefits )

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If this is what is going to be brought upon this forum, perhaps we should rename it the "fetish forum", or something similarly tacky and tasteless?

Because that's what it's going to come down to, if this kind of posting is allowed to go on. I thought that's what HELL was for?

If this is what is going to be brought upon this forum, perhaps we should rename it the "fetish forum", or something similarly tacky and tasteless?

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LMAO! I almost spit my diet coke out of my mouth I was laughing so hard! "The Fetish Forum" LOL! Thanks, Cat!

You are right, of course.

Hey Lucille, maybe you could have a poll on this, you know, to see how the majority of the Fauna membership feels about having these kinds of posts on this site.

Double standards

( I think That's what I mean ). So we are allowed this lonely hearts club forum and by looking at threads of " Do you Shave " ( 75 replies ) and " SEX " ( 144 replies ) , is it that the post leaves something to the imagination on these threads. I DON"T THINK SO ! While there is no definition or language of body parts, It's not hard to know what someone is talking about when they post about shaving " down there ". Is it when setting up these forums there was that very not thought out situation of threads or post that might have led to threads like this or someone brazen enough to take " advantage " by testing this kind of thread / post ? Sorry. This is how so many reptile and animal laws are knocked down because of the simple fact that the law / restriction wasn't conceived well enough. If I'm totally wrong here in my thinking, please except my apology. I do AGREE that there are web-sites more appropriate for this but hey.................

( I think That's what I mean ). So we are allowed this lonely hearts club forum and by looking at threads of " Do you Shave " ( 75 replies ) and " SEX " ( 144 replies ) , is it that the post leaves something to the imagination on these threads. I DON"T THINK SO ! While there is no definition or language of body parts, It's not hard to know what someone is talking about when they post about shaving " down there ". Is it when setting up these forums there was that very not thought out situation of threads or post that might have led to threads like this or someone brazen enough to take " advantage " by testing this kind of thread / post ? Sorry. This is how so many reptile and animal laws are knocked down because of the simple fact that the law / restriction wasn't conceived well enough. If I'm totally wrong here in my thinking, please except my apology. I do AGREE that there are web-sites more appropriate for this but hey.................

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You know, I don't think it's a double standard at all. Those threads you are referring to where purposely titled they way they are to draw people into the thread. They were more "tongue in cheek" if you will. Excuse the pun.

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Hey Lucille, maybe you could have a poll on this, you know, to see how the majority of the Fauna membership feels about having these kinds of posts on this site.

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Kelli,

We've had one post like this in two years. The sky isn't falling, and I hardly think that the place is going to turn into a hotbed of sin overnight if it has not done so in two years.

It might be another 2 years until the next one.

There are some good points on either side, I am thinking over what all of you have written. Give me some time to consider what you have said.

I have to agree with Griz and KelliH that this subject matter doesn't belong here on Fauna. I'm also someone that thinks what happens behind closed doors should stay there. I'll even take the extra step and say I think threads like "SEX" and "DO YOU SHAVE" are crossing the line also. I frequent this site for several reasons..blatant sexual innuendo is definitely not one of them. I think that the world is becoming an emotionally desensitized place where simple needs like physical gratification take precedence over such outdated concepts as intimacy or loyalty. Sex has become a generic dance that really doesn't mean anything. Posts like this condone and encourage such behavior..and THAT I just can't bring myself to agree with. :Lonely Penis Club" indeed..