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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

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Florida state law issues

I was afraid this might happen in all the counties in Florida. Please see the thread in this same forum: "Alert!! Hillsborough County, FL".

The different county attorneys from all the counties may be meeting secretly to overthrow the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission of their authority and powers.

We must actually support the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission's powers in this matter or we will lose everything soon! Bad government in action.

We are losing a lot of freedoms in the U.S.A.
 
A little off topic, but there is an interesting story titled "Attack of the Alien Invaders" in the current issue of the National Geographic, concerning world wide problems with non-native species. The cover picture of the story depicts a Burmese Python crossing a road in Florida (picture was staged with captive animal) along with the authors account of how he went road cruising and actually found one crossing the road! There is little doubt they are established and breeding in Florida.

This is just another case of the irresponsible minority in the hobby screwing the responsible majority when their actions create bad press, hysteria, and sometimes legitamate problems in their communities. These actions leave the door open for special interest groups and politicians to pass "feel good" and sometimes justifiable legislation, concerning the keeping of exotics.

If Bubba keeps getting bit by the pet Rhino Viper he ordered on line after being inspired by an Austin Stevens episode and Billy Joe Jim Bob keeps releasing his pet Burms and Nile Monitors because their getting too big for the trailer, pretty soon there won't be much of a hobby left.
 
so what was the outcome of the meeting? did you follow up on it or did you go? I am not far from there, so i'm interested in the final outcome.
 
This article ran in The St Pete Times on 3/7/05

Tougher rules urged for exotic animals
After changing the rules on where animal cages can be, Pinellas leaders have asked state agencies to tighten other restrictions.
By NICOLE JOHNSON
Published March 7, 2005

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Like most infants, Kira sleeps in a soft, cushy baby crib a stone's throw away from her mommy.

But at 18 months, she's getting too big for the little wooden frame. Soon she'll join her sisters and start sleeping in a hammock in a caged room with walls painted like a jungle.

A little weird, you say?

Not to monkey-mommy Gini Valbuena, who keeps three chimpanzees - Kira, Kenya, 3, and Tanzee, 7 - in her two-bedroom Clearwater home.

"I didn't ask for a bike or a doll at Christmas growing up," said the cosmopolitan version of Jane Goodall, with a jet-black bob haircut and french manicured toes. "I just wanted to have a monkey."

But a recent decision by Pinellas County to require cages containing livestock and some exotic animals to be set back from property lines has suburban exotic animal owners like Valbuena contemplating heading for the hills.

"More regulations are just not an option for some of us," she said. "We've been here for years without any real problems and now all of a sudden they want to put rules on top of rules."

Previously, the cages were not regarded as structures and could sit anywhere on a property. Set-back requirements will vary depending on zoning classifications, but will range from at least seven feet for cages in single-family residences, to 25 feet for people living in agricultural estate districts.

The new rules don't directly affect current exotic animal owners like Valbuena, because they are grandfathered into the former rule and regulated by the state. But county officials are hoping that the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission will follow their lead and toughe n their own requirements on exotic animals.

In addition to monitoring fishing, boating and wildlife safety in the state, the conservation commission regulates the licensing, permitting and monitoring of the hundreds of locations where exotic animals are kept across the state.

The animals are broken down into three classes. Class I animals, including tigers, chimpanzees, bears and venomous snakes, are generally considered dangerous and can be used only for business or educational purposes. Class II animals are potentially dangerous, such as coyotes or cougars. Class III animals are not as dangerous and include certain crocodiles, raccoons and non-venomous snakes.

The state is aware of 32 Pinellas locations where Class I and Class II animals are kept.

Last month, the county sent a letter to the conservation commission outlining five concerns and recommendations for ways to better regulate these animals.

"What we're concerned about is what you've seen recently in other places where these people are permitted and not followed up on," said Kenny Mitchell, director of Pinellas County Animal Services."If we see things that are a concern, we obviously have to speak to them and if we can prevent things from becoming a problem, we should tell them."

The county's suggestions include requiring exotic animal owners to submit disaster plans to local emergency management departments and to require venomous snake owners have antivenom readily available. Currently these are not Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission requirements.

Pinellas is the latest in a string of local authorities to express concern with the state conservation commission's enforcement of captive wildlife.

"It's our way of emphasizing the importance to maintaining the health and welfare for the general public," said Lois Kostroski, executive director of the Florida Animal Control Association, which serves as an umbrella organization for animal control service departments across the state. "We have found out these animals that should not be pets in the first place are getting out, and then they become the local animal control's responsibility."

In January, the Florida Association of Animal Services sent nine recommendations to the commission on how to better regulate, including requiring signs at each entrance to the property where dangerous wildlife are kept, and creating a Web site that would allow residents to determine the location of dangerous wildlife.

Palm Beach and Hillsborough counties have submitted similar laundry lists of concerns and recommendations.

Officials with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission say they encourage dialogue with localities, but they maintain their current rules are some of the most stringent in the country.

"I think a lot of it is ignorance of the law," said Capt. John West of the Investigation Division of Florida Fish and Wildlife."Most don't understand what these owners have to go through to possess these animals. It's not willy nilly. They must go through lots of requirements."

People must be licensed to keep a Class I or Class II animal. To get that license, they must complete 1,000 hours of training and have a year of experience with that type of animal. They must also have two letters of reference related to their experience and verify that they have appropriate caging.

A permit is required to keep Class III animals. The permit requires taking 1,000 hours of training or 100 hours and passing a test on care for that animal. Class III animals can be kept as pets.

West said the commission inspects Class I and II animals at least three times a year. Class III animals are inspected at least once a year.

Of the 1,000 commission officers throughout the state, only 18 are charged with monitoring exotic animals in captivity. Three investigators are assigned to the Pinellas-Hillsborough area.

"We think we have an excellent system, as far as monitoring this industry," West said. "Granted, people get around certain things, and, yes, things happen, but all in all we probably have the best system in the country that doesn't ban these animals."

In the last several years, there have been no deaths or serious injuries to the public associated with escaped captive wildlife, West said. But there have been close calls.

In August 2003, a Tampa man was hospitalized after being bit by his pet black mamba snake.

Last July, a 600-pound tiger belonging to a former Tarzan actor escaped in Fort Lauderdale, sending authorities on a 26-hour hunt before the tiger was shot and killed.

And in early February, an Oldsmar woman was bitten on the hand by an infant tiger on exhibit at a local car dealership. A few weeks ago, Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission officers had to tranquilize an adult tiger that escaped from its cage at the Panther Ridge Sanctuary in Wellington, Fla.

The issue of exotic animals in Pinellas County came to a head one morning when Commissioner Ken Welch saw a tiger in a cage on the back of a pickup in his St. Petersburg neighborhood.

"I made the rest of the commission aware of what I had seen and contacted our animal services department," Welch said of the incident that occurred in September. "I knew we could not regulate this, and we aren't attempting to."

Still, Welch said the experience merited a look at the rules on these animals.

"We're a changing county and as we become more densely populated, I think it's always good to ask if the regulations that made sense in 1955 still make sense in 2005."

But local exotic animal owners claim state and federal agencies regulations are sufficient.

"They think we're this bunch of crazy people, but we are not, we're just different," Valbuena said. "For us, these animals are our lives. To give us more restrictions would be adding to a system that isn't broken."

Pinellas County Commissioner Susan Latvala agrees with Valbuena.

"They're being taken care of. We don't need anymore responsibilities," Latvala said. "When it's being done by one entity, we don't need to get involved, especially if it's being done well."

Curt Stanford, who keeps about 40 nonvenomous rat snakes in his north Pinellas home, said it's an issue of education. Stanford, a member of the Suncoast Herpetological Society, has invited Pinellas commissioners to a workshop on snakes.

"I think once you educate yourself about these animals that have these bad reputations, you figure out it's mostly undeserved," Stanford said. "As a society and as individuals who enjoy exotic animals, we really try to be as responsible as we can with the ownership."

--Nicole Johnson can be reached at 727 771-4303 or e-mail [email protected] Information from the Associated Press was used in this report.
 
New proposed reptile legislation in florida!!!

I found this article in Florida Today 2-10-06. Just wondering what everyone thought.

TALLAHASSEE - Alligator-eating, headline-grabbing Burmese pythons in the Everglades are giving reptile regulators the push they need to seek a law governing exotic snakes and giant lizards much like guns.

At a Capitol press conference Thursday, Rep. Ralph Poppell, R-Vero Beach, and Sen. Bill Posey, R-Rockledge, announced intentions to require $100 permits for anyone hoping to own a giant python or Nile monitor lizard, among other yet-to-be named exotic reptiles.

These pets are relatively common in Brevard County. Last year 14 people and two establishments had permission from the state to keep venomous reptiles.

And there have been mishaps.

In April 2005, a man was bitten by a black mamba at one facility in West Melbourne. He survived after being flown to Miami for emergency treatment. In June 2003, a woman in unincorporated Brevard near Rockledge was attacked by her escaped 13-foot pet Burmese python. The snake was pried loose and returned to his cage.

It's not ownership so much as disposal of the critters that sponsors want to control.

Though most released or escaped scaly pets are small and considered little threat in their new South Florida homes, some are large enough, and eat enough, to cause concern. A breeding population of Burmese python, for instance, is now established in Everglades National Park.

Wildlife officers last year trapped 71 Burmese pythons, not counting the 13-foot python that made headlines by eating a 6-foot alligator and then exploding before it could digest its rotting dinner.

"This is a worthwhile bill, but it will be worthless without law enforcement and funding," said Eugene Bessette, an avid python breeder and member of the advisory council helping the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission draft its proposed legislation.

Bessette endorsed expansion of the state's snake permitting program, saying it will help the retail industry in the long run. "What we want to do, more than anything, is eliminate the impulse buy.

"Reptiles make great pets, we've just got to do a better job across the board, the industry as well as regulators, in educating the public," he said.

State game wardens already can regulate captive poisonous snakes. The bill, still being drafted, largely replaces the word "venomous" with "regulated," and gives the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission broader power to decide what poses a threat.

Species on the control list will likely include the Burmese python, reticulated python, African rock python, amethystine python, anaconda and Nile monitor lizard.

Poppell said a key part of the proposed legislation will be an amnesty program that allows owners no longer infatuated with their gigantic lizards and snakes to drop them off, penalty free.

"Better to let them loose on us rather than let them loose at the end of your street," Posey said.

Lions, tigers and bearcats may be next.

Carol Baskin, CEO of Big Cat Rescue, a Tampa sanctuary with a center in Brevard, said she hopes for legislation next that bans their breeding and sales in Florida
 
Anyone frightened by this thread and others like them should consider action before reaction. If anyone's interested, I wrote a thread called 'Regulating Florida' back in 2004. I would really like to hear thoughts.......
 
Looks like the Florida Law affecting venomous and large pythons has passed.

If you go to www.flsenate.gov, and in the section that says Jump to Bill, enter bill number 990. The last bill version posted appears to be version S0990c1 on 3/29/06. Click on it and you can see the actual bill. There was also an amendment that was added to the bill on 04/13/06 changing the negligent release of a regulated reptile from a third degree felony to a first degree misdemeanor.

It appears that this bill is going into effect on 07/01/2006 and will be requiring a $100.00 license fee per year along with the posting of a $10,000 (yes, ten thousand dollar bond) for the public exhibition of "regulated reptiles". I have seen other articles that eluded to venomous and certain pythons including Retics, Burmese, and African Rock pythons being on the list but I don't know which ones are on it for sure.

Anyone know what animals are on the regulated list for sure and what animals are going to be added in the near future? It seems like it has been left up to F & W to determine and amend the regulated list at any time.

Just in time for Daytona huh folks!
 
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FWC Public Comment Meeting Summary, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 8/23/06

Courtesy of Shawn K. Heflick


August 23, 2006
Subject: FWC Public Comment Meeting Summary, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

Greetings Herpers!
The public comment meeting for the Rulemaking Process on Reptiles of Concern and Venomous Reptiles (among other things) was extremely well attended last evening in Ft. Lauderdale. The meeting was conducted by Captain Linda Harrison and Captain John West of FWC. They did a great job of answering questions, providing a floor for comments (I had my fare shareJ), and noting suggestions. There were some great comments and a lot of great dialogue between the reptile community present and FWC. During the entire forum they emphasized the role and desire for public input into the process. If you attend any of the remaining meetings (times and addresses included below), be sure to sign up to speak at the beginning of the meeting, even though by the time they get to you, you may decide not to speak…though they provide ample time for comments/questions.

A synopsis follows:

1. FWC defined Reptiles of Concern (ROCs): 5 species of giant snakes (Amethystine, Burms/Indians, Retics, Anaconda, African Rocks) Nile monitors, Water monitors and Tegu lizards. When questioned why Tegus were included, they said there was a sustaining population in Polk County living in Gopher Tortoise burrows. FWC stated that it is very likely that Tegus may not be a problem and the regs will reflect it if that is the case. Discussion on Morph specimens not being included in the Reptiles of Concern followed. Comment was made by FWC that “equal” numbers of morphs/non-morphs have been found in urban settings, so the topic is in need of review. I find this “equal numbers” suspect and hard to believe based on % of overall captive population…let alone the value angle.

FWC admits that releases appear to be the result of all impulse buys by the uninformed public who then become uninterested in their pet reptile, which spurred myself and many retailers/wholesalers/breeders present to suggest that it was a consumer based problem and thus the end consumer should be burdened with the permitting, etc. (Excerpt from Bill Brant’s letter: The defining point could be the issue of sales tax. If a person has a Florida sales tax certificate so they can re-sell the reptile of concern they would not bear the burden of identifying the reptile of concern. A large number of the ROCs sold are never going to reside in Florida and therefore do not threaten the Florida environment. All of that paperwork and identification required would be unnecessary. The permit holder would be the consumer who is the one probably releasing them into the environment anyway. I am doubtful that breeders, importers and distributors are releasing”…based on monetary issues). Many of us added in this meeting that the financial burden of such permitting on large breeders/wholesalers/distributors would be astronomical and thus an unfair burden for the people not responsible for the end result wild release. The FWC seemed to have already been considering this and agreed that end user/consumer maybe the way to go.

2. The floor was opened to the first speaker who was an animal rights activist who basically wanted all exotics banned…we, the reptile community, did well in not justifying his comment with a response…WELL DONE ALL…I know you wanted toJ

3. The requirement of a PIT tag for Reptiles of Concern and non-indigenous venomous reptiles was another huge topic in this forum. We commented on the incomprehensibility of attempting to place PIT tags in many of the species that were small or extremely venomous and thus problematic for most to lay their hands on. In addition, neonates/hatchlings of most venomous species are far smaller than what is acceptable for implantation of these devices, thus the negative impact of the micro-chip on neonate animals would be counterproductive. My initial comments also included the risk to the person administering the PIT tag, along with the (typically unqualified) vet assistance needed and the lack of veterinarians willing to tag venomous reptiles. An alternative means of identification such as digital photographs was added as, though not perfect, a more reasonable and cheaper form of ID. Comments underlining the fact that the venom producers and wholesalers would be placed under undue burden to microchip all of the venom production stock was also interjected. This may ultimately lead to a loss of venom production and subsequently diminish the supply of anti-venom in the state. Many submitted that FWC themselves would be burden with a huge cost of regulating and tracking such a system beyond their already labored efforts to stay abreast of the current paperwork.

4. Additional Topics:

A. Additional topics we added concerned caging requirements that don’t seem to take into account individual species that should be reviewed. Minimum size caging for neonate balls was on a lot of people’s minds and their need for dark, confined spaces. Most breeders have neonate racks that do not currently meet these standards. Natural history of this species and current breeding/housing success would conclude that this is in need of review.

B. The inclusion of environmental controls is another topic we brought up as short-sighted. Many breeders have rooms that are climate controlled and meet or exceed the environmental conditions necessary to successfully keep reptiles. The inclusion of lights in snake species is physiologically unnecessary and may be detrimental to some species overall wellbeing (Ball Pythons). Many nocturnal species like the dark and are impacted negatively by direct lights in the enclosure.

C. The need for paperwork submission EVERY THREE MONTHS was also on my list. The proposed regs would require licensees to submit acquisition/deposition paperwork on ALL animals every 90 days. Who/Where/When it came from and who/where/when it went to. For large breeders/wholesalers/distributors this may boil down to thousands of animal acquisitions/dispositions per month. I believe I was clear in my delivery that this not only places unrealistic deadlines on licensees, but further burdens the FWC with mountains of paperwork in addition to their already, shall we say untimely and far from mistake proof, mounds of paper in place currently. It was suggested that at most every 6 months was more than enough to accomplish the goal desired.

D. Lastly, we brought up the need for clear written regulations for venomous exhibition at shows/expos, so that all of the guesswork can be taken out of the process and vendors are not stressed/burdened/reprimanded by paying the price for unclear regs.

REMEMBER, FWC IS ASKING FOR OUR INPUT. MANY STATES JUST SHUT IT ALL DOWN (KENTUCKY). PARTICIPATE, VOICE YOUR OPINIONS, BE HEARD, BE SEEN, BE A POSITIVE PART OF THE ANIMALS AND THE INDUSTRY WE ALL LOVE.

WHEN you go…thank FWC for giving us an opportunity to voice our opinions!

If you are located in another area of the state please try to attend one of the comment sessions. Next week will be Pensacola and Tallahassee. Please make comment even if you feel others have already said the same thing. They need to hear what people have to say. Please forward this e-mail to other Herpers and people in the reptile industry.

Per Bill Brant…THE WORLD IS RUN BY PEOPLE WHO JUST SHOW UP…he is right!!!

If you would like any additional information or have comments please email me at [email protected].


Cheers,

Shawn K. Heflick



August 22, 2006, 6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Tampa Port Authority, 1101 Channelside Drive, 1st Floor Board Room, Tampa, FL 33602

August 23, 2006, 6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Broward County Main Library, 100 S. Andrews Avenue, 8th Floor, Rooms 8A & 8B,
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33301-1830

August 28, 2006, 6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Pensacola Junior College, 1000 College Blvd., Hagler Auditorium, Bldg. 2 Room 252, Pensacola, FL 32504-8910

August 29, 2006, 6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, Bryant Building, 620 S. Meridian Street, 2nd Floor, Room 272, Tallahassee, FL 32399-1600

Written comments can be sent to:

FWC
Division of Law Enforcement
Investigations Section
Attn: Ms. Precious Boatwright
620 South Meridian St.
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1600

Deadline is Sept 13, 2006.
 
Mike, Look at this. http://wld.fwc.state.fl.us/critters/exotics/resultsClass.asp?taxclass=R

Florida's Exotic Wildlife: status for 48 Reptile species
Estimated trend in populations
17 species are expanding,
2 species are stable,
4 species are declining, and
25 species have unknown population levels
Breeding status
35 species have been breeding at least 10 years (but not necessarily consecutive years).,
10 are less than 10 years, and
3 species are not reported breeding in the wild in Florida
Established status
36 Established: Populations are confirmed breeding and apparently self-sustaining for 10 or more consecutive years.,
2 Species are present and breeding but for less than 10 years.,
8 Species are present but not confirmed to be breeding. Population persists only with repeated introductions and/or escapes of individuals., and
2 Species have populations whose status is unknown.
Distribution range
2 species occur in 51-66 counties ,
1 species occur in 21-50 counties ,
3 species occur in 11-20 counties ,
9 species occur in 06-10 counties ,
18 species occur in 02-05 counties , and
15 species occur in 01 counties
. Click here for a map of species by county
Click on a species Common Name to get details for that species. Common Name Scientific name First year Breeding status Established
Turtles
Red-eared Slider Trachemys scripta elegans Unknown At least 10 years Established
Crocodilians
Spectacled Caiman Caiman crocodilus 1960 At least 10 years Established
Lizards
African Redhead Agama Agama agama 1976 Less than 10 years Established
Giant Ameiva Ameiva ameiva 1954 At least 10 years Established
Brown Anole Anolis sagrei 1887 At least 10 years Established
Hispaniolan Green Anole Anolis chlorocyanus 1980s At least 10 years Established
Puerto Rican Crested Anole Anolis cristatellus cristatellus 1975 At least 10 years Established
Largehead Anole Anolis cybotes 1967 At least 10 years Established
Bark Anole Anolis distichus 1946 At least 10 years Established
Knight Anole Anolis equestris equestris 1952 At least 10 years Established
Barbados Anole Anolis extremus 1990s Less than 10 years Not Established, Present
Marie Gallant Sail-tailed Anole Anolis ferreus 1990 Not reported breeding Not Established, Present
Cuban Green Anole Anolis porcatus 1980s At least 10 years Established
Jamaican Giant Anole Anolis garmani 1975 At least 10 years Established
Brown Basilisk Basiliscus vittatus 1976 At least 10 years Established
Green Basilisk Basiliscus plumifrons 1994 Not reported breeding Not Established, Present
Indochinese Tree Agama Calotes mystaceus 1990s Less than 10 years Not Established, Present
Oriental Garden Lizard Calotes versicolor 1978 At least 10 years Established
Veiled Chameleon Chamaeleo calyptratus 2002 Less than 10 years Potentially Established
Rainbow Lizard Cnemidophorus lemniscatus 1964 At least 10 years Established
Giant Whiptail Cnemidophorus motaguae 1995 Less than 10 years Established
Asian Flattail House Gecko Cosymbotus platyurus 1983 At least 10 years Not Established, Present
Mexican Spinytail Iguana Ctenosaura pectinata 1972 At least 10 years Established
Black Spinytail Iguana Ctenosaura similis 1978 At least 10 years Established
Tokay Gecko Gekko gecko 1965 At least 10 years Established
Yellowhead Gecko Gonatodes albogularis fuscus 1939 At least 10 years Unknown
Tropical House Gecko Hemidactylus mabouia 1990 At least 10 years Established
Common House Gecko Hemidactylus frenatus 1979 At least 10 years Established
Mediterranean Gecko Hemidactylus turcicus 1910 At least 10 years Established
Indo-Pacific Gecko Hemidactylus garnotii 1963 At least 10 years Established
Green Iguana Iguana iguana 1966 At least 10 years Established
Northern Curlytail Lizard Leiocephalus carinatus armouri 1935 At least 10 years Established
Green-legged Curlytail Lizard Leiocephalus personatus scalaris 1970s Less than 10 years Not Established, Present
Red-sided Curlytail Lizard Leiocephalus schreibersii schreibersii 1970s At least 10 years Established
Butterfly Lizard Leiolepis belliana belliana 1992 At least 10 years Established
Many-lined Grass Skink Mabuya multifasciata 1990 At least 10 years Established
Bibron's Gecko Pachydactylus bibroni 1970s At least 10 years Not Established, Present
Giant Day Gecko Phelsuma madagascariensis grandis 1990s Less than 10 years Established
Texas Horned Lizard Phrynosoma cornutum 1934 At least 10 years Established
Ocellated Gecko Sphaerodactylus argus argus 1944 At least 10 years Established
Ashy Gecko Sphaerodactylus elegans elegans 1921 At least 10 years Established
White-spotted Wall Gecko Tarentola annularis 1990s Less than 10 years Potentially Established
Moorish Wall Gecko Tarentola mauritanica 1996 Less than 10 years Not Established, Present
Nile Monitor Varanus niloticus 1990 At least 10 years Established
Snakes
Javan Filesnake Acrochordus javanicus 1970s Not reported breeding Unknown
Common Boa Boa constrictor 1990 At least 10 years Established
Burmese Python Python molurus bivittatus 1980s Less than 10 years Established
Brahminy Blind Snake Ramphotyphlops braminus 1979 At least 10 years Established

I don't see tegus on this list, I guess they have not updated it.
 
I am hoping somebody could possibly help me out.

I serve in The US Coast Guard and am cuurently stationed in the Seattle area.
I am attempting to move to the Florida area with anticipation of moving to the Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater area or the Jacksonville area.
I possess many exotic animals. Yellow Naped Amazon (bird), Sulpher Crested Cockatoo (Bird), Sun-Day Conure (bird), Senegal Parrot (bird), Cockatiel (bird), 6 Panther Chameleons (reptile), Veiled Chameleon (reptile), 5 Bearded Dragons (reptile), Mali Uromastyx (reptile), Fat-tailed Gecko (reptile), Red-Tailed Boa (reptile), corn snake (reptile) and a weimaraner (dog).

Are there any laws or regulations regarding any of the animals that I own. I DO breed a small amount of bearded dragons each year as well as a small amount of Panther Chameleons. By no means is it a business, more of a hobby. Any help would be greatly appreaciated.

I have searched the interent and I am still unsure of any laws. I prefer to ask the average person rather than asking Law Enforcement due to the fact that when I moved to the Seattle area I inquired with the local law enforcement about my animals and the King County Sherrif Deputy that I talked with, told me that most of the reptiles I owned were not allowed within King County, which I later found out was not true at all and there were no regulations concerning non-venomous reptiles in King County.

Thank You

Operations Specialists Second Class
William Shuey
 
William,
I can't help you with the birds, but you'll have no issues with any of your reptiles. There are no state or county laws (Pinellas & Hillsborough) prohibiting the reptiles. As far as Jacksonville, I'm not certain if there are any county laws in effect there, but my guess is that there is not. You might try looking up The Jacksonville Herpetological Society for additional information.

Good luck
 
Ok, thank you for the information in regards to the Tampa Bay area, I will also be contacting somebody from the Jacksonville area about their reptile specific laws as well.
 
I am not sure - since I did not read this entire thread - but I had posted about this and there is a petition online that you can sign below is the latest update as to what is taking place with it. Also are email links to FWC to write your letters of concern too. Its still not to late.

Here is the copy:

I've sent to FWC a hard copy of the petition of signatures we had collected. I've emailed Lt. Harrison, and Precious Boatwright a link to view the online petition.
We are going to keep the petition ongoing. We've also sent a letter to Rep. Poppell and Senator Posey who originated Senate Bill 990 also known as House Bill 145 a letter that states what we are doing.
It was stated at the last CWTAG meeting that Rep Poppell intends to bring the bill back up in Feb 2007.
I personally also feel that he along with certain other powerful person or person(s) are responsible for putting pressure on FWC to come up with these rules. (Which had changed significantly from what CWTAG had been working on when it was announced at the public forum.)

I've attached a copy of the letter that was sent to Lt. Harrison, Precious Boatwright, Rep. Poppell and Senator Posey.

Hopefully what everyone is doing will make a difference.


These are the email addresses of Lt. Harrison and Precious Boatwright.
Send your concerns to both.


[email protected]

[email protected]


LINK FOR ONLINE PETITION:

The Jacksonville Herpetological Society Link to our on line petition failed last week. We've finally been able to reload the petition online however, we've lost all the signatures that were gathered. If you believe as we do, and had signed the petition or would like to please return to www.jaxherp.org and click on the link for the petition or go directly to http://reptiles.petitiontime.com/


Thanks so much,

Janine Wells
Vice President Jacksonville Herpetological Society



Sincerely,
Beth Moody
Simply Snakes
 
Just in case anyone is interested this is the copy of the letter that was attached in that email that I just posted about.






From
Florida Registered Voter’s and Concerned Citizens
PO Box 57954
Jacksonville Fl 32241

Sept 12, 2006

To:
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

CC: Senator Posey
CC: Representative Poppell

Re: Proposed Reptile Rules and Procedures and Proposed Legislation

Be it known that we, as Florida’s Concerned Citizens, and registered Voters’ are watching the current proposed rules and procedures, and also the possible pending legislation concerning Reptiles in Florida. We currently have started a grass roots petition to make our fellow residents aware of the pending rules, and possible up coming proposed legislation. We are gathering signatures both online and in person to make you our representatives aware of our feelings.
Further, we feel that we are being unfairly targeted by a handful of well financed person (s) who are misleading you, our representatives as to what is actually happening. We are prepared to use our rights to let our feelings be heard. Our online petition is located at the following web address http://reptiles.petitiontime.com/ .
Just to let you know, in just a few hours of uploading our petition we have already gathered 79 signatures, and the number is increasing as I write.



Thank-you,

Florida Concerned Citizens

This was sent by JAX HERP SOCIETY

Sincerely
Beth Moody
Simply Snakes
 
Does anyone know if you can own a Fennec Fox while living in a apartment/condo? Will they give you the permit at all?

I live in a apartment and really want the Class III permit right now, but not sure if I could actually get it because of the fact I live in a apartment.

I had plans on moving into a condo, they used to be apartments but they got bought out a year or two ago. Now they are condos and townhouses.
 
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