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Inquiry ATTENTION ANTHONY OF AC REPTILES.

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This is my last ditch effort to handle our problem with my transaction in private. It has been a month since our last email communication when we agreed on an acceptable course of action and I have not heard anything from you despite sending 6-7 emails politely asking for an update over the last month.

Please email me at [email protected] when you see this. I will wait another two weeks (very generous on my part) for a response from you, and if we don't hash things out by then I will move forward with a bad guy BOI post. This is not meant to be a threat,
(although I know full well some people will take it that way, not much I can do about that) I am just trying to get his attention and offer an out so that it won't result in a bad guy BOI.

At this point I am not mad, but I am losing patience.

Thank you.
 
Ryan this IS an inappropriate post and DOES smack of blackmail. This is NOT a private venue.
Post emails and etc saying exactly what the problem is you are having. The BOI is a business forum and since it is so widely read it affects both buyers and sellers who participate. A vague reference to some unsatisfactory transaction is not really enough and is unfair to the other party .
 
I have also experienced very slow email communication with Anthony. I know he is a very very busy guy, but I feel like there should be someone at his business that handles emails so that communication is faster. It is just a suggestion, as people like to hear back in a timely manner.
 
If you are going to use the BOI please do so according to the rules and Post all E-mails and PMs and any other communication about this "deal". It's pertinent information and now that you have brought his name up here people are going to want to know what is going on!

This is not a Private Venue as Lucille stated.. this is a Public Forum and now you have everyone in the loop yet not in the loop so to speak!
 
Ryan this IS an inappropriate post and DOES smack of blackmail.
Sorry I don't agree with you. I am not posting any details because I don't see it as necessary yet. If I am emailed and we finished up what we started then this thread served it's purpose. As of this moment I do not have a "Bad guy" mentality about Anthony and our interaction will stay private unless it does not get resolved.

I am not one to jump right into airing out a personal transaction. I will always take every other avenue before doing so and this is my last avenue.
A vague reference to some unsatisfactory transaction is not really enough and is unfair to the other party .

The vagueness was for a reason, a solution to the problem was offered and I am happy with the solution, we just have to wrap things up and I am doing what I think is best to get in contact with him (since other methods have not worked). I appreciate everyone wanting to know what is going on, but at this point there is no reason to not buy from AC. I have confidence he will see this or be told about it and we will resolve things. People get busy sometimes and thats that. I personally think if people took a less hostile approach to things in general they would get more positive results in the long run.
 
our interaction will stay private unless it does not get resolved.

It is not private. You have called into question the reputation of the other party and threatened him with a bad guy post. Even if it is resolved, unless HE posts the details, his name is clouded by your post.
 
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Ryan, I appreciate your PM. I have the highest regard for Rich and if he has agreed with you I'm sure he has good reason. But he has never been one to not allow others to disagree as long as it is done with respect, and I respectfullt disagree that this is a good way to use the BOI.
 
Ryan, I appreciate your PM. I have the highest regard for Rich and if he has agreed with you I'm sure he has good reason. But he has never been one to not allow others to disagree as long as it is done with respect, and I respectfullt disagree that this is a good way to use the BOI.
And I respect your right to disagree :)
I will patiently wait to see if I am contacted, and if necessary I will post all the details in the future.
If everything is resolved I bet a nickel neither him nor I will post any details about the transaction. ;)
I will however get back on this post and emphasis how happy I am with the results to put your mind at ease.
 
I'm just confused. I mean, the whole reason behind the BOI is to INFORM OTHERS of good or bad transactions, and to get input from other members, am I correct? I didn't think it was supposed to be used as a "smoke signal" if you will, to get the attention of another person. Maybe i'm compleatly wrong, and if I am I apologise. But I just feel like this wasn't necessary.
 
I agree as well but if Rich allowed it I'm sure there is good reason. No point in arguing over it... The OP can't be forced to post the proof or do anything he doesn't want to do at this point in time. If he's willing to wait it out then so am I. Just hope it doesn't come down to posting a Bad Guy Thread because then he will probably be jumped on and ridiculed to no end!

Just my .02 :)
 
Yea. I'm a ":censored: or get off the pot" kind of person. If you don't want post a BOI thread, then don't post anything until you're ready. If you are not satisfied then you need to go forward with your bad guy thread. Sometimes, even after a bad guy thread is posted, things can still get resolved. Yes, it can light a fire under one's bum but I don't think we should abuse it that way. If you have sent every form of communication, then you've done your part, and you need to decide what an adequate amount of time for him to respond it, then move forward. Perhaps it would have been more effective to send a mailed letter and phone call as a "final warning".
 
Just hope it doesn't come down to posting a Bad Guy Thread because then he will probably be jumped on and ridiculed to no end!
Just my .02 :)

Well at least the Marine Corps bequeathed me with some thick skin. :) Ridicule from people I don't know really is not going to get to me easily. :D

I understand my actions are not popular, and I realize seemingly no one is going to agree with my approach, but it is what it is. At this junction here is very little point in every individual member posting their disapproval. I will assume just about everyone disapproves and save everyone the time from posting. :)

I am done responding on this thread for the foreseeable future and I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.:yesnod:
 
Yeah, I don't agree that it was a pre-emptive strike, I have always thought that was one of the BOI's attributes, i.e., a "warning" to the person that was brought into question.


Randal Berry
 
I agree as well but if Rich allowed it I'm sure there is good reason. No point in arguing over it...

True. But at this point we have no proof that Rich in fact knew of this, we only have Ryan's pm to me saying so.

BOI posts usually make a claim in one of three ways- Good Guy, Bad Guy, or Info. After yesterday, there is a brand new section 'If you don't do what I want I'm gonna tell on you'.
Imagine if everyone could come on the BOI and use it that way for their own purposes without divulging the nature of the transaction. Then, the BOI would no longer serve as a guide, and no one could look at the posted transaction and have an input as they do now.
 
If you are going to use the BOI please do so according to the rules and Post all E-mails and PMs and any other communication about this "deal".

Actually there are no rules that state this. It is merely a suggestion.

Personally I think of the BOI as a tool that can be used by those that are having trouble with a transaction as they see fit. Whatever works to get the transaction resolved should be the primary focus, not whether the readers get to play games with the OP, or the subject.

Obviously another purpose of the BIO is to warn others about problems sellers/buyers. But the OP has opted not to do that yet. Hopefully it never becomes necessary.

A vague reference to some unsatisfactory transaction is not really enough and is unfair to the other party .

If AC Reptiles has a problem with the ambiguity of this thread then they can easily come here and rectify it as they see fit.
 
It is not private. You have called into question the reputation of the other party and threatened him with a bad guy post. Even if it is resolved, unless HE posts the details, his name is clouded by your post.

Actually his name would have been clouded due to his own lack of response if what the OP has stated is the truth. Cause and effect, if Antony had responded in a timely manner this thread would not have been started. 6-7 e-mails over a months time without a response is not acceptable in my book.

Though, if there hasn't been a response back by any other means I don't see how posting this here is going to make any difference with the exception of the bad guy tag being held over his head. Personally I do agree it could have and probably should have been done via pm, e-mail and or voice mail versus posting it here.

I guess if anything, this thread will stand as INFO pertaining to Anthony's either very slow or lack of response to an apparent problem that is yet to be resolved. Unfortunately it leaves a lot of speculation as to what the problem could have been other than slow or no response to the OP's claim.
 
Actually his name would have been clouded due to his own lack of response if what the OP has stated is the truth. Cause and effect, if Antony had responded in a timely manner this thread would not have been started. 6-7 e-mails over a months time without a response is not acceptable in my book.

Though, if there hasn't been a response back by any other means I don't see how posting this here is going to make any difference with the exception of the bad guy tag being held over his head. Personally I do agree it could have and probably should have been done via pm, e-mail and or voice mail versus posting it here.

I guess if anything, this thread will stand as INFO pertaining to Anthony's either very slow or lack of response to an apparent problem that is yet to be resolved. Unfortunately it leaves a lot of speculation as to what the problem could have been other than slow or no response to the OP's claim.

:iagree: Well stated!


Randal Berry
 
I agree and as I said... there is no point in trying to force anything out of the OP right now. We will just have to sit back and wait for any type of response from either Ryan or Anthony at this point in time. I wish them both the best and hope the resolution comes as Ryan expects it to!
 
Unless you are independantly wealthy, any transaction that is made involving money that I or any other person worked for should be resolved without a hitch and in a timely manner. In this case if the transaction was made and money exchanged there should be some communication with the buyer and seller even in if it is by email. A month with no reply is unnaceptable in my opinion and I would do everything in my power to withdraw the funds and tarnish the reputation of the person in question. If you did not get a phone# and posting is the only way to get the attention of a person then so be it. Even if this post is lacking in detail the seller is wrong right off the bat. Talkenlate04 I agree with this course of action and hope you can get this issue resolved. Btw how do we know that anyone posting on behalf of the seller is not connected to him in some way? Im sure if it was their money the tune would change!
 
Come on guys, give it a rest. Is discussing HOW the BOI should be used really ON TOPIC within this thead? But to try to put this to rest, here's what I have specifically stated that is valid fare for the BOI:


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    - someone or some business that likely should be avoided. Provide FACTS supporting this opinion. Proof is not needed, but will certainly help support your claim.<BR>
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    - someone or some business that you are recommending. Reasons are not required, but an example of your experience would be helpful.<BR>
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    - you are looking for information on the listed person or business. Perhaps you are considering doing business with them and would like some feedback.<BR>
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    - this can be information of any sort about the person or business. Not necessarily good nor bad, could be something along the line of your hearing they got in a shipment of something of interest recently.<BR>

I purposely tried to keep the definitions broad enough so that the deliverance of INFORMATION would not be inhibited by a poster being concerned that the information provided was not appropriate in this venue.

Actually I believe way back in the budding days of the Board of Inquiry, I used this forum in pretty much the same way that it is being used by this thread. I posted an inquiry about anyone having heard about or from a certain party, and if they should happen to contact him, to please remind him of the money he owes me.

There are many ways to get a point across, some much more subtle than others. Just because some may prefer the bludgeon over the stiletto doesn't mean that it is a requirement for all to use YOUR preferred tool.

And for the record, this is my reply to Talkenlate04 concerning his inquiry about this thread:
I believe others have used the BOI in this fashion. Some people will approve and some won't. Pretty much par for the course. Just keep a cool head about yourself and not get dragged into any pissing duels.
 
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