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Way to start off your time on fauna by shooting yourself in the foot.
The other customer in question has already posted in this thread and Jade posted the PM's between them as well.
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Bad Guy Wendy Childs, Reptile Addictions
- Thread starter shelliebear
- Start date
Way to start off your time on fauna by shooting yourself in the foot.
The other customer in question has already posted in this thread and Jade posted the PM's between them as well.
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
Ok, let me be VERY clear, since my posts dont seem to be speaking clearly.
The customers TOLD me- as in from their mouth that she was harrassing them. That is the information I believed to be true since I myself asked her to stop pming me and she continued to do so 3 times, 3 times I asked her to stop. They have both stated here that they told me she was messaging them. That is how I knew.
The frogs I purchased where from a wholesaler and Importer. I am unaware which frogs where imported, farm raised, captive born, or otherwise. I bought 8 frogs at the tune of $800 trade value. That simple. I can guarantee you I have done breeding projects in far different ways than other people swear it has to be done, and it works for me. To claim I cant produce Blue Jeans because of how I go about doing it is wrong. We all have our own little ways that work for us. I have shown that time and again on here with all my CBB Uroplatus species.
Daryn said "IF" I bought red frogs from him they were mans creek. I reviewed my records. IF he chooses to review his he will see I have purchased NO red frogs of any kind from him. That was my error based on the gross amount of frogs I purchased from him.
SOMEONE here is not being honest about what frogs they purchased. That is their choice. No one can force them to remain under attack for buying them. That is their rational thinking. That if they lie to you or sugar coat it a little, you will go away and leave them alone.
I can assure you that I no longer posses the 2 juvenile frogs, or any frogs listed in that sale. They were all sold to 2 buyers.Proof of this has been sent to a mod. Dollar for dollar the credit card transactions show that all the frogs in the ad were sold to two people.
Those two buyers have spoken. They are satisfied with their purchases. PERIOD.
The customers TOLD me- as in from their mouth that she was harrassing them. That is the information I believed to be true since I myself asked her to stop pming me and she continued to do so 3 times, 3 times I asked her to stop. They have both stated here that they told me she was messaging them. That is how I knew.
The frogs I purchased where from a wholesaler and Importer. I am unaware which frogs where imported, farm raised, captive born, or otherwise. I bought 8 frogs at the tune of $800 trade value. That simple. I can guarantee you I have done breeding projects in far different ways than other people swear it has to be done, and it works for me. To claim I cant produce Blue Jeans because of how I go about doing it is wrong. We all have our own little ways that work for us. I have shown that time and again on here with all my CBB Uroplatus species.
Daryn said "IF" I bought red frogs from him they were mans creek. I reviewed my records. IF he chooses to review his he will see I have purchased NO red frogs of any kind from him. That was my error based on the gross amount of frogs I purchased from him.
SOMEONE here is not being honest about what frogs they purchased. That is their choice. No one can force them to remain under attack for buying them. That is their rational thinking. That if they lie to you or sugar coat it a little, you will go away and leave them alone.
I can assure you that I no longer posses the 2 juvenile frogs, or any frogs listed in that sale. They were all sold to 2 buyers.Proof of this has been sent to a mod. Dollar for dollar the credit card transactions show that all the frogs in the ad were sold to two people.
Those two buyers have spoken. They are satisfied with their purchases. PERIOD.
Utta
HELL is my home
And let me be clear- we want PROOF of the PMs. We want PROOF that the buyers claim Jade was HARASSING them.
Jadenkisses
Dendrosapien
Wendy, I have posted proof of all of my claims.
Why can't you post proof of any of your claims???
Why can't you post proof of any of your claims???
Utta
HELL is my home
Wendy, the "proof" you PMd me has already been posted by Jade.
The proof im seeking of is that of your customers claiming that she was "harassing" them.
The proof im seeking of is that of your customers claiming that she was "harassing" them.
JudyC
New member
Tyler already asked once, but you seem to have missed it....or something.
HOW would she know WHO to harass if you never disclosed any of your other customers? The ONLY customer you listed flat-out said he did NOT feel he was being harassed.
Really, Wendy, I'm still trying to give the benefit of the doubt here....although I am quite sure my opinion means squat anyhow....but your apparent knee-jerk reaction to exaggerate and flat-out lie (as it appears you are doing based on your own words and contradictions) to try and wriggle out of a confrontation makes it awfully hard to do.
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
I left feedback for the 2nd buyer, as well as a good guy thread. Both buyers were disclosed by me. Something I will never do again. She just ruined the feedback process for all my customers from here out by abusing its intention.
I am not flat out lieing about anything. I own Blue Jeans. I sold Blue Jean offspring. PROVE OTHERWISE.
It is a matter of an opinion based on a photo. The buyer has not complained otherwise.
CASE CLOSED.
I am not flat out lieing about anything. I own Blue Jeans. I sold Blue Jean offspring. PROVE OTHERWISE.
It is a matter of an opinion based on a photo. The buyer has not complained otherwise.
CASE CLOSED.
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
Someone is NOT being truthful here, as I have agreed. But that someone isnt me. They are trying to sugar coat it on both sides to remain the "good guy" when in fact they said totally different things to the both of us. 
Utta
HELL is my home
Great Buyer, Fast Payment, Excellent Communication! Thanks Buyer legionofthederanged (1) 09-10-2010 Great Buyer, Prompt Payment, Great Communication! Buyer Moloch (1) 09-06-2010
Case REOPEND
Those are last 2 feedbacks you've left. So let's say Moloch baught the blue jeans.
Who in the bowles of christ is Robert?
Case REOPEND
Those are last 2 feedbacks you've left. So let's say Moloch baught the blue jeans.
Who in the bowles of christ is Robert?
Utta
HELL is my home
Someone is NOT being truthful here, as I have agreed. But that someone isnt me. They are trying to sugar coat it on both sides to remain the "good guy" when in fact they said totally different things to the both of us.
Post the pm that said person sent you. Or email. Or text. If it was over the phone, then its hearsay and holds no merit. (Imo)
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
That puts me in a position. He is a customer. One who has asked me to remain namless here, and not disclose our exchanges.
What am I to do even though I am being raked over the coals? I will respect his wishes, even if I dont agree with what he is saying. That is called good customer service.
The subject is that she claims- someone not in possession of the frogs, nor has seen them, that they are not blue jeans. I claim they are. I am asking her to prove they are not. She has no proof, no disgruntle buyer, nothing.
They are blue jeans. Until otherwise proven. Thats what this thread is about, asked, and answered.
What am I to do even though I am being raked over the coals? I will respect his wishes, even if I dont agree with what he is saying. That is called good customer service.
The subject is that she claims- someone not in possession of the frogs, nor has seen them, that they are not blue jeans. I claim they are. I am asking her to prove they are not. She has no proof, no disgruntle buyer, nothing.
They are blue jeans. Until otherwise proven. Thats what this thread is about, asked, and answered.
Utta
HELL is my home
She has posted proof. She got the person you claimed produced the frogs to deny that they were his. That's proof. You squirming your way out isn't counter proof, or a rebutle.
And who is this "Robert" that claims he's one of the buyers? Hmm?
And who is this "Robert" that claims he's one of the buyers? Hmm?
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
I DID NOT claim to the buyer that Daryn produced those frogs. Daryl did produce the breeders of over 1/3 of the frogs they purchased, but not those.
Daryn has said IF- he was unable to confirm what I have purchased from him, as I have said. I have not purchased any red frogs from Daryn.
I have submitted "proof" to two separate unbiased parties here, I am certain they will post once they have reviewed it. I am certain that you will believe THEM. I am at NO fault here. I have not been dishonest about anything to anyone.
I will say again. I produced 2 Blue Jeans I sold. Prove otherwise.
Daryn has said IF- he was unable to confirm what I have purchased from him, as I have said. I have not purchased any red frogs from Daryn.
I have submitted "proof" to two separate unbiased parties here, I am certain they will post once they have reviewed it. I am certain that you will believe THEM. I am at NO fault here. I have not been dishonest about anything to anyone.
I will say again. I produced 2 Blue Jeans I sold. Prove otherwise.
Southern Wolf
I don't bite..... HARD!!!
I have been asked to review some documentation. It will be very late tonight before I get this opportunity.. but I will post what I think after I review what has been sent.
Utta
HELL is my home
Who's this Robert? Its been ignored 3 times.
Utta
HELL is my home
That's a direct responce to
So yes, you did say that the blue jeans came from Darren.
Jadenkisses
Dendrosapien
Wendy, there are still several things you need to address, but here is just one for now.
- First you say the frogs are from Darren, and then you say you got them on a trade from someone in Florida, as imports. Did you read this responce to that:
"Those imports were from Panama, and were not Blue Jeans. Blue Jeans are from Costa Rica, which does not allow exports."
- First you say the frogs are from Darren, and then you say you got them on a trade from someone in Florida, as imports. Did you read this responce to that:
"Those imports were from Panama, and were not Blue Jeans. Blue Jeans are from Costa Rica, which does not allow exports."
ReptileAddictions
The ONLY Reptile Store in
I will post some undisclosed text messages: And I will forever lose this customer. Just to prove I am the honest one here.
I took it as both of them being harassed. If someone was messaging me about a purchase I made and posting about it, thats how I would take it. As harassment.
Someone later will confirm the validity of these text.
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 18:48 :
Could you do me a favor and remove your add.I've got some annoying person emailing me saying the blue jeans are man creeks and blah blah blah, I'd prefer to keep the sale private...thanks!
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:13 :
This "jadenkisses" girl is rather annoying...I read the thread. I'd rather her and anyone else not know what I bought. So please keep me out of the convos..ect, thanks again!
Send To XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:14 :
I'll go remove it, sorry about that, u can report for harrassment
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:15 :
Thanks! She even posted on DB a dart frog forum trying to figure out if they were true blue jeans...spaz.
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:16 :
I told her I Just bought a few things...she doesn't need to know anything specific about our deal.
From XXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:16 :
Thanks!
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:22 :
She's joined several forums all within the past few months and is mucking around in everyones business
From XXXXXXXXXat Sep 8, 2010 6:53 :
Just opened them up! Everyone appears to be alive and well! I'll let you know more as I unpack and set them up! Which will take a while! Btw-idk what that girls problem was but these are 100% true blue jeans
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:54 :
yaaaaa
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:56 :
I know they are, you'll be happy, there are some beautiful frogs in there.
My fav Is the turquoise and black
Send To XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:56 :
Keep me posted
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:59 :
Yes I am very pleased!! Great deal for some phenomenal frogs!
Send To XXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:20 :
That nutty chic started a bad guy thread about me on fauna about your frogs, don't suppose I can persuade you to make a post? I know u don't want to be involved
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:30 :
Are you serious? She didn't even buy from you-she has no right to start a bad guy thread...wow
Send To XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:37 :
I'm serious go look, I also left you positive trader rating, if you'd leave me trader rating I'd appreciate it
From XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:42 :
This is so stupid and ridiculous...wow. Personally I really don't want her to know I bought them, it's none of her business. I wish my name was left out of the whole thing... :-/ I am trying to leave positive feedback but it says I don't have permission. ??
From XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:44 :
Problem is I said this in order to get her to leave me alone about it...) this is so XXXXXXstupid-I don't understand why she is doing this.
From 1XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:52 :
This is so XXXXX stupid...I can't believe the lengths people will go to.
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 11:05 :
The other buyer is posting a message now, short and simple that he is happy with his frogs
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 11:13 :
Thelink pics look exactly like mine...did you read my post, does it help?
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 11:13 :
It was just a few off the first page of yahoo search , shows how dark some blues can be
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 13:37 :
This thread is really making me uncomfortable...please don't mention me anymore. but I want my purchases to remain private
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 13:51 :
All you have to say is that you may have misunderstood one of your buyers in regards to jades "harassment"... I don't want to be on anybodies bad side just bc I bought some frogs. This whole thing is ridiculous and I don't know why they continue to go on and on with this.
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:16 :
Please do not post anything about me....I did not mean to "play both sides" I just wanted her to leave me be....I spent big money on your frogs-why on earth would I choose anyone elses side? I am a happy buyer-beside the fact that an issue over nothing is making such a prevelance...I wish I had never been mentioned-the sale was private and that's how it should stay.
From XXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:18 :
If I truly thought those were man creeks I wouldn't have bought them...that right there is proof enough that I'm on your team-I just don't want to be dragged through this and I don't want anyone to know our dealings...it's all private.
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:38 :
As I had stated there I have always practiced thanking the buyers, leaving trader rating, and a good guy boi post, that's how we all learn who to deal with, by others dealings. She gas ruined that system for me now.
I have not used your name, I will not use your name, because you asked me not to.
However it is hardly fair that I am being made to look like a lier when I am not............it's my reputation as a seller on the block here, how is this fair to me? I'm a victim because I'm hiding you.
From XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:46 :
I'm not trying to make you look like a bad guy- but whether or not they know I bought the blue jeans they will still debate whether or not they are true blue jeans-it's pointless. It's hardly fair for me to spend so much money and get caught up in something like this...I am very sorry wendy, I've tried to help and I will continue to try-but I never said she was harassing me, I asked you to take down the post because she was pmming me about something that was none of her business.
I took it as both of them being harassed. If someone was messaging me about a purchase I made and posting about it, thats how I would take it. As harassment.
Someone later will confirm the validity of these text.
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 18:48 :
Could you do me a favor and remove your add.I've got some annoying person emailing me saying the blue jeans are man creeks and blah blah blah, I'd prefer to keep the sale private...thanks!
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:13 :
This "jadenkisses" girl is rather annoying...I read the thread. I'd rather her and anyone else not know what I bought. So please keep me out of the convos..ect, thanks again!
Send To XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:14 :
I'll go remove it, sorry about that, u can report for harrassment
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:15 :
Thanks! She even posted on DB a dart frog forum trying to figure out if they were true blue jeans...spaz.
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:16 :
I told her I Just bought a few things...she doesn't need to know anything specific about our deal.
From XXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:16 :
Thanks!
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 7, 2010 19:22 :
She's joined several forums all within the past few months and is mucking around in everyones business
From XXXXXXXXXat Sep 8, 2010 6:53 :
Just opened them up! Everyone appears to be alive and well! I'll let you know more as I unpack and set them up! Which will take a while! Btw-idk what that girls problem was but these are 100% true blue jeans
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:54 :
yaaaaa
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:56 :
I know they are, you'll be happy, there are some beautiful frogs in there.
My fav Is the turquoise and black
Send To XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:56 :
Keep me posted
From XXXXXXXXXX at Sep 8, 2010 6:59 :
Yes I am very pleased!! Great deal for some phenomenal frogs!
Send To XXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:20 :
That nutty chic started a bad guy thread about me on fauna about your frogs, don't suppose I can persuade you to make a post?
I know u don't want to be involvedFrom XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:30 :
Are you serious? She didn't even buy from you-she has no right to start a bad guy thread...wow
Send To XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:37 :
I'm serious
go look, I also left you positive trader rating, if you'd leave me trader rating I'd appreciate itFrom XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:42 :
This is so stupid and ridiculous...wow. Personally I really don't want her to know I bought them, it's none of her business. I wish my name was left out of the whole thing... :-/ I am trying to leave positive feedback but it says I don't have permission. ??
From XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:44 :
Problem is I said this in order to get her to leave me alone about it...) this is so XXXXXXstupid-I don't understand why she is doing this.
From 1XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 10:52 :
This is so XXXXX stupid...I can't believe the lengths people will go to.
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 11:05 :
The other buyer is posting a message now, short and simple that he is happy with his frogs
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 11:13 :
Thelink pics look exactly like mine...did you read my post, does it help?
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 11:13 :
It was just a few off the first page of yahoo search , shows how dark some blues can be
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 13:37 :
This thread is really making me uncomfortable...please don't mention me anymore. but I want my purchases to remain private
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 13:51 :
All you have to say is that you may have misunderstood one of your buyers in regards to jades "harassment"... I don't want to be on anybodies bad side just bc I bought some frogs. This whole thing is ridiculous and I don't know why they continue to go on and on with this.
From XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:16 :
Please do not post anything about me....I did not mean to "play both sides" I just wanted her to leave me be....I spent big money on your frogs-why on earth would I choose anyone elses side? I am a happy buyer-beside the fact that an issue over nothing is making such a prevelance...I wish I had never been mentioned-the sale was private and that's how it should stay.
From XXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:18 :
If I truly thought those were man creeks I wouldn't have bought them...that right there is proof enough that I'm on your team-I just don't want to be dragged through this and I don't want anyone to know our dealings...it's all private.
Send To XXXXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:38 :
As I had stated there I have always practiced thanking the buyers, leaving trader rating, and a good guy boi post, that's how we all learn who to deal with, by others dealings. She gas ruined that system for me now.
I have not used your name, I will not use your name, because you asked me not to.
However it is hardly fair that I am being made to look like a lier when I am not............it's my reputation as a seller on the block here, how is this fair to me? I'm a victim because I'm hiding you.
From XXXXXXX at Sep 10, 2010 14:46 :
I'm not trying to make you look like a bad guy- but whether or not they know I bought the blue jeans they will still debate whether or not they are true blue jeans-it's pointless. It's hardly fair for me to spend so much money and get caught up in something like this...I am very sorry wendy, I've tried to help and I will continue to try-but I never said she was harassing me, I asked you to take down the post because she was pmming me about something that was none of her business.
Utta
HELL is my home
There's one buyer. *check*
Great Buyer, Fast Payment, Excellent Communication! Thanks Buyer legionofthederanged (1) 09-10-2010
There's another buyer *check*
Legion has commented, so what does Robert mean by this statement above(in bold)?
You also claimed you left trader rating for BOTH buyers. Yet the next newest trader rating left for a buyer is Moloch. So who's the real buyer(s)? Is Robert lying for you?
ReptileAddictions
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I am done here. Going home. Good night!