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Inquiry Jerry Boyd, JerryBoyd88, in "Woodstock, IL"

MagickalMorphs said:
Exact IPs, selling the same animals, money orders asked to be sent to an empty house 20 minutes from where "Michael" lives. That's enough for me. Offering to ship out animals before payment comes in doesn't clear anything up for me.
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And another piece of the puzzle that was brought to my attention. I had someone want me to runs some addresses..... seems Michaels place of employment is only 2.2 miles from the empty house.... and with what he does for a living... its a very good chance that's how he found out about the house.
 
dturner- Why would you buy from a flipper that sells his snakes BEFORE HE EVEN RECIEVED THEM?What if there's an issue with the animal? How would either of them know if they (Michael/Jerry) barely get the snakes in & are shipping them right off to the next destination?

Harald- I agree that theres no proof,but,there is too much circumstantial evidence to think that a deal with either is safe. The fact that "he sold the mojobee & bumblebee to 2 different breeders", they then just happen to sell those EXACT SNAKES to "Jerry Boyd" @ the Daytona show.
I guess the question now to Jerry should be-- which dealers did you buy the mojobee & the bumblebee to?
Then the other question would be for Michael-- Who did you sell the mojobee & bumblebee to?
I'm sure that we won't get an answer that will give us a clear cut dealer that can be contacted for verification.
 
I'm still interested in hearing who had made deals with Jerry for which animals - not sure why people are so willing to let go of that :shrug01:
 
shlages said:
dturner- Why would you buy from a flipper that sells his snakes BEFORE HE EVEN RECIEVED THEM?What if there's an issue with the animal? How would either of them know if they (Michael/Jerry) barely get the snakes in & are shipping them right off to the next destination?

Harald- I agree that theres no proof,but,there is too much circumstantial evidence to think that a deal with either is safe. The fact that "he sold the mojobee & bumblebee to 2 different breeders", they then just happen to sell those EXACT SNAKES to "Jerry Boyd" @ the Daytona show.
I guess the question now to Jerry should be-- which dealers did you buy the mojobee & the bumblebee to?
Then the other question would be for Michael-- Who did you sell the mojobee & bumblebee to?
I'm sure that we won't get an answer that will give us a clear cut dealer that can be contacted for verification.
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Jerry told me in the string of emails I posted that he got the mojo spider from Rustys Balls table. From a guy named Sean. Turns out that Sean is the operator of EBN retiles from what Micheal said in the thread deb posted. So Micheal bought them from a Sean and sold them to a Sean who sold them to Jerry. Unless there was another guy between Micheal and Sean#2.

And that snake switchin that many hands so frequently is just proposterous, unhealthy, and extremely bad pratices on all parties starting with Micheal, because he metioned he sold it the same day he had it, not giving it time to settle.

And I would hope there arent that many people in this hobby that do this type of trading/selling.

Harald- the mojo spider was the only animal I was trying to purchase form "Jerry".
 
hhmoore said:
*I'm not saying they AREN'T the same person, just that that particular IP match didn't click as an answer for me.
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There is just tooo many coincidences.... like Jerry's GF living around 20 minutes from Michael town. Michaels work being less than 5 minutes from Jerry's GF's house... that is sitting empty and for sale.

The IP's just help tie it together.
 
dturner100 said:
Not to mention if I recall he as well posted a drivers license photo with an animal. Not 100% proof that he's not a scammer, but nor are all the "gut feeling" proof that he is.
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Ya might want to go back and re-read the thread.... that DL was proven to be stolen from the web and altered :thumbsup:
 
hhmoore said:
There were three accounts that had posted from that same IP address - can anybody that is convinced that Jerry and Michael are one & the same explain why they picked that match vs the 3rd one that IP came back to....or even the other match that was present?
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Mainly the MS addresses... and Jerry supposedly moving to MS. The phone number doesnt throw me off the trail because now you can take your phone number with you anywhere. Since he had an IL phone (which could be a cell) he had to steal an IL drivers license. Michaels number could very well just be a home phone. :thumbsup:
 
Harald

I was purchasing a 1308 gram '08 female Albino ( Virgin ). I alraedy new the deal was to good to be true. Sent cash without paying attention ''AGAIN''

So, as mad as I am.. I DID IT TO MYSELF.. and it is my suggestion --- to not buy from either person or there girlfeinds/Fiancee's ever.. regardless of what GREAT deals they are giving out today.


And believe the// I will send you your snake, then you send me the money is a sad way to get your rep back.. As I belive everyone that just got conned is now paying YOUR shipping.

Anyways, Buy stuff from the dude..... Remember its your money. Just dont come back crying when he gets your money too.::rofl:

Thanks to everyone that has PROOVED these dudes are both BUMs.
 
RidgeTop Reptiles said:
Ya might want to go back and re-read the thread.... that DL was proven to be stolen from the web and altered :thumbsup:
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Kevin, I must have missed that one. About what page?

I actually didn't get to view the IP info until last page. If it turns out he's masking his IP address for any reason I will decline doing business with him.

As far as the "why would I buy from an animal flipper?" Have you bought more than one animal from an expo? You buy much online? Chances are you have bought from a "flipper". If I get a quality animal I don't care if they're a "flipper" as long as they aren't scamming people as scamming and flipping are seperate issues.

Either way though with the new ( new to me ) info of the IP addy I will use caution before purchasing but at the same time I'm not gonna jump on to lynch the guy until there is some proof of a scam being commited.
 
dturner100 said:
Kevin, I must have missed that one. About what page?
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Not a clue... just scroll back.

I believe this was the one he stole from the web though

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RidgeTop Reptiles said:
Not a clue... just scroll back.

I believe this was the one he stole from the web though

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It is.
I can't understand how someone could speak up on the situation yet NOT READ THE WHOLE THREAD? You never know what info may have already been provided that you may need for yourself to make a decision.
And to answer your question of if I have ever bought from an expo- Yes,I have.When you are buying an animal IN PERSON it's a BIG difference than online. I'm sure you know that.
As for buying online I have only purchased snakes from RELIABLE REPUTABLE BREEDERS. Just for the simple fact that it is a purchase online.And i'd prefer to have the stock of a name than someone that people might not be able to find in the future...
IMO He has made doing business with him hard for the fact that he tried to hide the stubs on the pastels he hatched out,to MORE THAN 1 PERSON!! That added to his "confusion" on the IMG pin,the use of other breeders pictures without permission,the placing ads for animals that weren't even in his possesion et cetera.
The fact that he sold 2 different ball pythons to 2 different people & those 2 people just happened to each have a table in Daytona & Jerry just happened to buy both snakes. Jerry & fiance want payments sent literally minutes from where Michael lives/works to an abandon home.
 
I really don't care what you believe. This thread isn't about me. At all.

Believe me I use this BOI for EVERY transaction I make here. I still have not seen how his drivers license was PROVEN stolen.
 
Has there been any contact from him at all, Isaac? I mean, he did promise that all money was going back to the people who sent it.

maddseasonmorphs said:
I was purchasing a 1308 gram '08 female Albino ( Virgin ). I alraedy new the deal was to good to be true. Sent cash without paying attention ''AGAIN''

So, as mad as I am.. I DID IT TO MYSELF.. and it is my suggestion --- to not buy from either person or there girlfeinds/Fiancee's ever.. regardless of what GREAT deals they are giving out today.


And believe the// I will send you your snake, then you send me the money is a sad way to get your rep back.. As I belive everyone that just got conned is now paying YOUR shipping.

Anyways, Buy stuff from the dude..... Remember its your money. Just dont come back crying when he gets your money too.::rofl:

Thanks to everyone that has PROOVED these dudes are both BUMs.
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Dustin... go back and read the thread.... see the photos HE posted... and then tell me if you think I just pulled that image out of my :censored:
 
First of all Kevin I said nothing about your photo and where you pulled it out of. Also I don't really care about his integrity, but if he is a good guy I'm willing to let him prove it.

And as always look who jumps in on the lynch mob. Sorry Deb I've done nothing but good business here.
 
dturner100 said:
First of all Kevin I said nothing about your photo and where you pulled it out of. Also I don't really care about his integrity, but if he is a good guy I'm willing to let him prove it.

And as always look who jumps in on the lynch mob. Sorry Deb I've done nothing but good business here.
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This is not a "bandwagon" I think you miss the point. Let me connect the dots for you.

Micheal has been caught trying to sell kinked animals, his excuses stunk
Micheal has admitted stealing pictures
Micheal has admitted to attempting to sell animals not in his possession...

Yet for the cheap price of 250.00...he is now buying reputation from all that deal with him. Cheap, easy, and no pain on his part. Doesn't mean he won't slip back to his old ways later..but some of us..have will have made it EASY for him.

Just saying..:shrug01:
 
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