Can't seem to reply in my own threads...

[Cp3_Pythons]

Ok this may have been said already But is there a way we could Limit the amounts of Bumps per user per ad?? If this was done make it so you could only Bump an Ad every 24 hours as I noticed the problem when I tried to Bump one of my ads and rembered reading something on it prevously yesterday,
I can understand where the people bumping there ad every few hours gets annoying specially for paid members I mean it bugs me as well I mean just becuase someone didnt respond to your ad in 2 hours dont mean Ohhh Man I gotta Bump it someone might miss it
The Mods and Webslave
Are only trying to make the site a better place easier to use with less scammers and make it so that it is fair to others all around ( Unless your a paying member then YES you should have privlages and advantages its only fair)
Things take time when your trying to move foward let them do what they need to do to upgrade Faunaclassifieds.com
Like Harald said the solution was only a temporary one untill they decided on a permenent solution...

 

[jyohe]

besides limiting the number of bumps...
when an ad is bumped does the ad on like page 8 disapear? or is there just a duplicate ad made that goes to the top?...I see so many duplicate ads I cannot tell if there are 4 of the same snake or the ads all just keep cloning again and again each time bumped?...waste of web
also the people that make little "it's cute" comments in an ad....yes it's pretty and all and you "wish you had the cash" but we don't care of you don't....buy or fly....
yes everyday we swim through the same ads over and over....if I see something new I can't believe it at times.....and at times I buy it right away because I know it will disapear fast ......
........ deleting old ads and sold items would really be nice....
...... ... and yes the 4 pages of TTT and Bump to get to the final ...''sold her thanks'' at the end really sucks........
...........good luck Rich.....!!!.....

 

[ShiffyAME]

ok so on "another site" you can only post 6ads per section per day. You either have to run your ad for 1day and let it expire, which leaves a window where you are not advertising at all after it expires so you can easily "relist" your ad. Or you can just re type the ad all together to repost it, BUT not within 24hours of the last post for that particular animal. If you have more than 6 animals per section you are trying to sell then you can't push all of your ads to the top every day regardless. Then if you try to simply say in you ad more animals are available on your site your ad will be yanked completely. Not to mention the cost to run ads is significantly higher compared to being a FREE member here or even a contributing member. I just think a lot of people are taking for granted the amount of freedom members of this site, contributing or not, are given in the classifieds section. Whether you are allowed to bump your ad or not, how can somebody really complain about being given the oppurtunity to advertise for FREE. Being a contributing member means just that, you made a contribution for something you think is of worth, not paying to post ads like other sites require. The BOI has prevented me from making a bad mistake and entering into a business transaction that i more than likely would have lost more than the highest contributing membership more than once. For that reason alone i am glad to make a small contribution every year to keep the BOI going. Fact of the matter is though, perks or not with becoming a contributing member faunaclassifies is NOT a pay to play website and anybody can still advertise for FREE even if they don't have the added perks of a contributing member. So what is their really to complain about?

 

[hhmoore]

when an ad is bumped does the ad on like page 8 disapear? or is there just a duplicate ad made that goes to the top.

No, and no. When an ad is bumped, that ad is moved from it's current position to the top of the list. If its position was on page 8, it will no longer show there....but, if it was on page 3, and there were previous versions of the same ad on page 8, 9, 11, and 15, nothing happens to those other ads.

Unfortunately, a huge percentage of those posting ads (especially the noncontributing members) don't manage their ads at all. It may be that some of them don't know that they CAN, but plenty of others just choose not to. (I can say this because I've received messages asking me to mark an ad as "SOLD" or to delete it; and, when I explain how they can do it themselves, they a) don't respond, b) respond, but don't follow through, or c) make a snotty remark about me not wanting to do my job.

 

[Rockinar Dragonz]

Has anyone suggested limiting the number of ads allowed per day so that you have to have multiple animals listed in one ad not a dozen separate ads. I know several users list every animal separate when they could put four animals in one ad since that is the number of attachments you are allowed in a single ad. I personally list multiple animals on one ad as to be courteous of the other users and not take up all the prime real estate on the first page.

Totally agree! For both contributing & non-contributing members. Jeff makes a great point later... with less ads, the bumping isn't as big of an issue.
As a contributing member, it's quite disheartening that soon after I post/bump my few ads, another member comes along soon after and bumps their 10-15+ ads knocking my ad to page 2 or 3. LOL! Consolidating is a great idea and works well. Especially, if seller is listing multiple babies from same breeding.

So glad Fauna is looking into these issues and doing what they can to remedy it

Melanie

 

[SERPENTS DEN]

A few weeks ago someone posted a thread regarding the bumping war between dragons4you and repti-racks which was lost in the recent data base issues but if you go here http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=57 you’ll see they are both ignoring the sticky about Abusive Posting

With the amount of individual ads they both post they leave little room for anyone else to have there ad on the first page.

 

[DAND]

A few weeks ago someone posted a thread regarding the bumping war between dragons4you and repti-racks which was lost in the recent data base issues but if you go here http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=57 you’ll see they are both ignoring the sticky about Abusive Posting

With the amount of individual ads they both post they leave little room for anyone else to have there ad on the first page.

It would be nice to have some of those who are abusing the system to come here and explain why they feel they have the right to monopolize the classifieds in the manner in which they do.

Instead of being upset with the mods and Rich about this, it is those who are abusing the system that your anger should be directed at. Had they not felt they had the right to continually cut to the front of the line this would not be happening.

Personally, were I looking for say caging and the first page and a half were from just a single person/business I would skip to the next.

 

[hhmoore]

Actually, Steve, I have to disagree on that assessment - I looked at the ads of both parties yesterday, and IMO they were complying with the new policy. Both used a combination of newly posted ads and "proper" bumps (via the Classifieds Control Panel)...there has - at least so far - been no restriction on the number of ads that can be posted; though I would hope that, if people are going to frequently post new ads for the same items, they would delete some of the older ads as they go.

 

[DAND]

Actually, Steve, I have to disagree on that assessment - I looked at the ads of both parties yesterday, and IMO they were complying with the new policy. Both used a combination of newly posted ads and "proper" bumps (via the Classifieds Control Panel)...there has - at least so far - been no restriction on the number of ads that can be posted; though I would hope that, if people are going to frequently post new ads for the same items, they would delete some of the older ads as they go.

Is this something that has been discussed that you know of?

What if they or anyone else, are trying to circumvent the new policy by just re-posting already posted items?

 

[Cp3_Pythons]

Great Points made in every post after mine I cant complain as I still use FaunaClassifieds as a free member But I AINT complainin HAHA I feel the same way a majority of you feel on it I cant find caging or racks with out seeing a few pages of the same ads.
Then there is the handful of ads that say SOLD in the headline for what reason??? If its SOLD then delete the ad... Why should the ad even be there if the items sold?
That dosen't suprise me at all Harald thats the remarks you get back
I really like option C LoL I guess becuase your a Mod you have nothing better to do at all in the eyes of some
Limiting the number of ads sounds like a great Idea and the number of bumps your allowed
IMO If the Headline reads SOLD and its still there Have a Mod delete the ad then issue a warning to the Op of the ad get so many get a temporary suspension from Fauna
Do the same with the ads where you get through 1-however many pages to read an item has been sold Do the Same
I dont Know if this would work here or not... But Craigslist has it where after an ad is 30 days old it's removed...

 

[hhmoore]

I just took a look at the ads for the past 3 days (starting yesterday, because neither have them have posted yet today):
10/28 dragons4you had 5 ads, repti-racks had 3
10/27 dragons4you had 3 ads, repti-racks had 1
10/26 dragons4you had 8 ads, repti-racks had 7 (This was before the bump rule, and neither of them bumped any given ad more than once that day)


I did not pay enough attention to be able to state how many of the ads (on different or the same days) were for different vs identical products.

 

[hhmoore]

Clarence (not picking on you, your's was just the recent post with these items)
It has already been stated that some sellers feel that leaving a small number of "SOLD" ads up is beneficial. I do it myself; and, for whatever it may be worth, I would argue in favor of my option to do so if the topic were to come up for discussion. I don't leave a trail of old ads behind me, either, though

The subject of removing old ads has been addressed many times - they are a factor in bringing traffic to this site, so just having a blanket rule to remove them would have a negative impact. I don't know how feasible it is, under the current programming, to have a set duration for advertisements...whereby they would expire and automatically delete after, say, 6 months. (Currently, old ads have to be manually deleted)

 

[DAND]

But what benefit does a 4 year old ad really have? Especially when the OP hasn't posted or even logged in since the ad was posted? Other then the occasional person replying to the ad thinking they are getting a deal due to the price being lower since it was from 4 years ago?

 

[Cp3_Pythons]

But what benefit does a 4 year old ad really have? Especially when the OP hasn't posted or even logged in since the ad was posted? Other then the occasional person replying to the ad thinking they are getting a deal due to the price being lower since it was from 4 years ago?

I know your not picking on me Harald even if you where Id find it as a honor if you did

I undersand where some would find it as benificial but if an animal is sold or a item product whatever and the ad is still visable a month after and it clearly states sold I dont see where besides brining in website traffic I cant see where it would benificial... The seller doesn't have the animal item product to sell so a potential Buyer cant buy it... That is a negative IMO when a "New person" comes on becuase they googled bumblebee ball pythons for sale and an ad on fauna is in the list of the website's that Bumblebee Ball python for sale are found in To find out its sold The first thing going through there mind is I ish people would update there ads or not have it listed if its sold and even more so if its an ad from 2008 or 2006 ... So that can play both was IMO

 

[deborahbroadus]

I know your not picking on me Harald even if you where Id find it as a honor if you did

I undersand where some would find it as benificial but if an animal is sold or a item product whatever and the ad is still visable a month after and it clearly states sold I dont see where besides brining in website traffic I cant see where it would benificial... The seller doesn't have the animal item product to sell so a potential Buyer cant buy it... That is a negative IMO when a "New person" comes on becuase they googled bumblebee ball pythons for sale and an ad on fauna is in the list of the website's that Bumblebee Ball python for sale are found in To find out its sold The first thing going through there mind is I ish people would update there ads or not have it listed if its sold and even more so if its an ad from 2008 or 2006 ... So that can play both was IMO

I can see how you might see it as a negative, but they also stay and browse to see if anyone else might have something they want. As they peruse the Ads, they sometimes wander to the forums...like what they see and become members.

*it can work both ways.

Frankly, I just want to thank Rich and the Mods for addressing the situation. I think many of us need to post one or two Ads and a link to our sites. If you don't have a site, make one with one of the FREE WEBSITE tools available.

 

[hhmoore]

But what benefit does a 4 year old ad really have? Especially when the OP hasn't posted or even logged in since the ad was posted? Other then the occasional person replying to the ad thinking they are getting a deal due to the price being lower since it was from 4 years ago?

The old ads still get picked up by the search spiders...but there shouldn't be too many really old ads left open (though I guess it has been a while since we did a serious run through them); so they bring traffic to the site.

but if an animal is sold or a item product whatever and the ad is still visable a month after and it clearly states sold I dont see where besides brining in website traffic I cant see where it would benificial... The seller doesn't have the animal item product to sell so a potential Buyer cant buy it.

That is a somewhat narrow buyer's perspective (no offense intended).
Leaving a small group of ads - marked sold - does a few things for a seller. I'll use myself as an example:
- It shows the quality of my animals, so people that are shopping for certain traits (or a look) can consider how what I am producing might fit into their plans.
- It gives an idea of what my pricing was, for comparison purposes.
- It shows that I have been selling animals....which aside from experience, will indicate that I should have references (since many visitors and new members don't even know about the BOI).

The bottom line is I have made sales based on old ads that I left up, so it is an effective tool for me.
(The odd part is I just clicked on my Ads tab, and it showed more than I expected. Either I didn't delete some of the ones I thought I did, or I somehow did it differently so they still show up there. I'll have to look into that)

 

[Cp3_Pythons]

I can see how you might see it as a negative, but they also stay and browse to see if anyone else might have something they want. As they peruse the Ads, they sometimes wander to the forums...like what they see and become members.

*it can work both ways.

Frankly, I just want to thank Rich and the Mods for addressing the situation. I think many of us need to post one or two Ads and a link to our sites. If you don't have a site, make one with one of the FREE WEBSITE tools available.

Thats what I did although the Website that I have now is a temporary one until I get the permament one up and running is on a Free Website Host as well as my FB page for Cp3_Pythons

Harald Awsome point I really never thought of it like that Thank You

 

[Shadera]

I leave sold ads up until the deal is done and I am comfortable that my customer is happy. That way if an issue comes up about something that was or wasn't said it's right there with a date stamp on it.

I too skip over the ads of the folks that try and monopolize.

 

[deborahbroadus]

I leave sold ads up until the deal is done and I am comfortable that my customer is happy. That way if an issue comes up about something that was or wasn't said it's right there with a date stamp on it.

I too skip over the ads of the folks that try and monopolize.

That is a good point!

 

[WebSlave]

Concerning the issue with marking animals in ads as SOLD and leaving them there.

I believe everyone knows the economy pretty much sucks right now. People are holding tight to their money, fearful of what tomorrow might bring. YOUR potential customers are trying to decide if they want to spend the money on what you are selling. So tell me, WHY are people buying animals, of all things? Yeah, some might like higher dollar pets, but far and above the reason most people are buying this stuff is as a hobby that is also an investment. So if they see page after page of animals for sale that it is obvious have been there for a long time, with the owner bumping the ads for months, what are they going to think about that idea of theirs of spending money with the hopes of being able to produce saleable offspring in a couple of years? They would probably start thinking that keeping the money in the bank (even with the pittance interest rates we get now) would be the better option to exercise.

But if they see a fair smattering of SOLD notices going up for animals that were purchased, well, won't that be beneficial to YOU when those prospective buyers take that as an indication that there is still a healthy market for animals, and perhaps they should make the purchase to get in on the game as well?

Also, to all those complaining about this and that here in the classifieds, please bear in mind that posting classifieds are for FREE here. Every change I have seen suggested would require custom programming to implement, which would have to come out of MY pocket for this FREE service I am offering on this site. And a dollar to a donut says I would get complaints about those mods being done as well.

I tried charging for classifieds a few years ago to try to produce a steady income to give me a steady cash flow to be able to afford every bell and whistle I thought would enhance the value of this site. I did this for an entire year. And guess what happened? People abandoned the site in droves, because it was apparent that they wanted FREE or not at all. So I had to drop that requirement or lose the site completely as participation dropped like a rock. So apparently nearly everyone wanted FREE classifieds, so you now have FREE. But it comes with all the warts.

Realistically, I should have just ended replies to the classifieds completely, which would have been at no cost to me at all, except the labor of making a few changes in the admin section, and been done with it. But I decided to try this custom coding thing first and see how that pans out, and hope it would be a BETTER solution. Honestly, if it doesn't work and I have people coming up with all sorts of creative ways to get around it, then screw it. People posting ads will be able to post single post threads, with NO replies allowed from anyone and that will be that. In hindsight, perhaps I should have done that anyway.

This is a gift horse, people. Stop complaining about the equine halitosis and just ride the damned thing. If you aren't getting your money's worth, then find another horse to ride somewhere that is either also FREE, or offers you what you want at a price you are willing to pay for.