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I always get nervous when a new breeder with a slick presentation, apparently TONS of snakes and no 'front person' appears. Do you guys care to come end speculation? I also find it strange that other companies you own have been accused of being Chinese manufactures simply posing as an American Company (google 'nicecycle review gsxrlee' for a good review of the company that owns the domain esnake.com). With how many scammers there are I always get edgy. These guys seem to own about a half million in ball pythons or more. Has ANYONE sold to them?
 
I know Thomas :thumbsup:(esnake), he is a regular attendee at the Taylor Mich. show, and he does have a VERY high end collection ( I an very jelous:crying:.
I think he is just getting started with the "breeding" end of it. He is definately not trying to pull one over on anyone, :sneaky:he is just new, and got into BPs in a very big way. I think he owns several sandwich shops around Detroit, hence his nickname "Hotdog":beer:


I also find it strange that other companies you own have been accused of being Chinese manufactures simply posing as an American Company (google 'nicecycle review gsxrlee' for a good review of the company that owns the domain esnake.com).
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I have no idea about any of this.:shrug01:
 
Casey Hulse said:
I know Thomas :thumbsup:(esnake), he is a regular attendee at the Taylor Mich. show, and he does have a VERY high end collection ( I an very jelous:crying:.
I think he is just getting started with the "breeding" end of it. He is definately not trying to pull one over on anyone, :sneaky:he is just new, and got into BPs in a very big way. I think he owns several sandwich shops around Detroit, hence his nickname "Hotdog":beer:




I have no idea about any of this.:shrug01:
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Honestly, as long as he is a real person with real ball pythons I could care less about how he runs his other businesses. I just wanted to make sure this wasn't another morphkings type situation.
 
Mitchell......jump the gun much? With no verifiable information you make accusations that will remain on this site permanently for all to see and lookup. I hope esnake.com does not lose business over this thread.
 
Do you think people will read my post but not the rest of them? This is a business RIFE with scammers. I tried to do a search on the domain 'esnakes.com' and immediately found threads about other business owned by them being based in China. Should I not have posted a request for information (which is, by the way, all I posted)?
 
Your tone in the original post was filled with suspicion, assumptions, and opinions.......their would not have been an issue if your post would have just said, "anyone ever deal with esnakes.com?"
 
Again, when the ONLY info I can find on a company are threads saying they are based in China, why shouldn't I pass that info on? Should I not have been concerned? Any website selling ball pythons that has NO info about any person on their 'about me' page just screams problems.
 
Also, tone is notoriously difficult to discern in written form. I certainly didn't intend for my original post to come across as anything other than investigatory.
 
ceballpythons said:
Also, tone is notoriously difficult to discern in written form. I certainly didn't intend for my original post to come across as anything other than investigatory.
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As has already been said, if you'd just asked if anyone had done business with them it would have been much less accusatory.
 
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Again, when the ONLY info I can find on a company are threads saying they are based in China, why shouldn't I pass that info on? Should I not have been concerned? Any website selling ball pythons that has NO info about any person on their 'about me' page just screams problems.
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Had you neutrally posed the question, "has anyone ever dealt with esnakes?" you would have gotten non biased information and their rep would not have been called into question because of your lack of knowledge and concern of them.
 
I'll keep that in mind for future inquiries on companies with no actual info on their info page and a reputation for doing business from china.
 
And AGAIN (for I believe the second or third time), if it sounded accusatory I apologize. I was simply trying to find info for a company which had several red flags that were quickly found when I tried to find information about them. If any offense was given to esnakes or others I apologize.
 
ceballpythons said:
I have no idea who Thomas Raspoptis, hotdog OR esnakes.com actually are. What I am saying is the company that owns the esnake domain has a reputation for somewhat misrepresenting Chinese manufactured goods as made in America. This is not my opinion, it is simply what I found online:

http://www.gsxr.com/showthread.php?t=65798
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Oh, I thought you were questioning the guy who has recently been showing off his great collection of snakes, the one who is working on a website and has been posting here and on KS.
If you are looking for a company that owns the esnake domain name, and deals with China, maybe you should look elsewhere.
There is NO justification for your inquiry.
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Mentioning morphkings (it was morphking by the way)
for any reason other than add more negative things about Thomas was foolish.
I have no idea who Thomas Raspoptis, hotdog OR esnakes.com actually are.
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I'll fill you in on what I know, which isn't much.
About 6'4", maybe 350lbs, owns a few businesses in the Detroit area, works probably 7 days a week, and long hrs.
No reason at all to cast a cloud over his reputation because you were "curious"
You thought you were on the trail of a "bad guy" and wanted the "kudos" for being the first to "out him", instead you jumped the gun and end up with pie in your face...:willy_nil
 
wow...what a pissing contest.
he has every right to make his inquiry. hence the name BOARD OF INQUIRY...thats what b.o.i. stands for, for those who dont know.
his tone(lol) may be questionable, but his inquiry is valid. and yes suspicious but he has every right to be. there are lots of scammers in this business and their is no info on the website esnake.com stating who they are.
he isnt questioning anyone particular, hes questioning the site and to FIND OUT who owns it. i understood this from the origional post.
everyone needs to just relax...lol
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