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2amcreations said:
There ya go...start the poop storm...then when FedEx cuts out reptile shipping because of all the whining and hassles you can attempt to lay the blame at SYR!

Fine thinking there!
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Don't reach.:rolleyes: This reaching to say that some of us dislike Robyn, or his business or a host of other emo manipulation tactics is getting wearisome.

If we mess ourselves up, I believe we are going to mess OURSELVES up. Remember, we aren't third party shippers, we are individually waivered customers handled by individual (or one representative with several clients) representatives. We (individuals that may discuss this with our representatives) are within our RIGHTS to see if there is a possiblity that we, also, can have residential shipping rights added to our waivers.

As to why we are here voicing our opinions, we are concerned because of PREVIOUS actions brought to light, and certainly one previous action resulted in shipping privileges being yanked :rolleyes: which had an effect on ALL those under the SYR umbrella...those that used the services. That blanket action could have set the community back by ensuring that UPS NEVER will allow snake shipping in their services for the small breeder if they ever did consider it.:NoNo:
 
I have to agree with 2amcreations....

First off, I have never used SYR. But... Everyone talking about how if SYR gets going that it will start rocking the boat and ruin the whole industry... Now "the more people who complain to Fed Ex, the better" is the strategy? So if a whole group of individual "certified shippers" start whining about what Fed Ex is not doing for them, that is better than SYR attempting their plan how?


So much hypocrisy here!

1) SYR will ruin shipping, yet everyone that is "certified" should complain to Fed Ex.
2) Bad shipping through SYR will ruin the industry, even though bad shipping outside of SYR will not.
3) Breaking rules and Fed Ex policy will ruin shipping for everyone, yet "certified shippers" breaking rules and Fed Ex policy to ship residential is fine.
4) Robin is a a greedy money grubber for trying to start a service that could help alot of hobbiest! Even though most people want to make money on their business ventures, along with those that help out the industry, this site included.

I heard that Pro Exotics doesnt recycle! Wheres my gun??? :shrug01:

Tom Baker
 
Python Dreams said:
I have to agree with 2amcreations....

First off, I have never used SYR. But... Everyone talking about how if SYR gets going that it will start rocking the boat and ruin the whole industry... Now "the more people who complain to Fed Ex, the better" is the strategy? So if a whole group of individual "certified shippers" start whining about what Fed Ex is not doing for them, that is better than SYR attempting their plan how?


So much hypocrisy here!

1) SYR will ruin shipping, yet everyone that is "certified" should complain to Fed Ex.
2) Bad shipping through SYR will ruin the industry, even though bad shipping outside of SYR will not.
3) Breaking rules and Fed Ex policy will ruin shipping for everyone, yet "certified shippers" breaking rules and Fed Ex policy to ship residential is fine.
4) Robin is a a greedy money grubber for trying to start a service that could help alot of hobbiest! Even though most people want to make money on their business ventures, along with those that help out the industry, this site included.

I heard that Pro Exotics doesnt recycle! Wheres my gun??? :shrug01:

Tom Baker
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You are almost correct, but still don't get the big picture.:rolleyes: Please re-read from the beginning.
 
So if your FedEx rep comes back and says that you can't have residential added to your waiver are you going to stop using FedEx in protest of them not giving you the same treatment as they gave SYR?

"that blanket action COULD have"

But didn't.....more could'a, should'a, would'a arguments. No facts just guesses and feelings. That is whats wearisome to me.
 
Deb, I'm guessing that negative Karma was from you.

You can demand all you want, but FedEx is under no obligation to provide you with the same sort of account that they provide to a massive volume shipper. They don't have to even allow you to use their service if you are a continued pain in their butt. Using FedEx is a priviledge, not a right...two very different things.
 
2amcreations said:
So if your FedEx rep comes back and says that you can't have residential added to your waiver are you going to stop using FedEx in protest of them not giving you the same treatment as they gave SYR?
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Protest, no. Keep pushing the issue on a regular basis, yes. I'm sure others will do the same. I have until August until it becomes an issue, so I've got time. ;)
 
deborahbroadus said:
You are almost correct, but still don't get the big picture.:rolleyes: Please re-read from the beginning.
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The trouble is, most of the people who back SYR don't see the big picture, moreso now then ever. Some on the other hand, may refuse to even look at it, and refuse it all together, because they are so focused on being cheap. There are also those, who are given the information to see the big picture, but don't have the intelligence to understand it. I know money is tight for everyone, but people don't seem to understand what's at stake here, all for a five dollar savings.

It isn't even the people defending SYR that will ruin it, it's the people who don't care about how things are done, who would not normally ship. People who care, take the necassary steps that are involved with quality shipping, those who don't care, don't. There are people out there who will not ship at this time, some of those people should not be allowed to sahip anyway, even if they could ship. Those people who should not ship, will use a third party shipper.

The biggest mishaps that have occured recently that I have seen in over night services, were through SYR ,and I know one was on the news, at it gave the industry a huge black eye. Can someone point out any recent problems that a certified shipper has caused?

The majority of the population does not understand what we do. Not only that, they don't want to understand it. This is why we have to take the steps to show that we are capable, and knowledgable to do this properly. Look at all of the attacks on this industry right now. We need to minimize the areas of attacks for our enemies to use against us. Allowing anyone to ship something in an unregulated environment is an invitatation for trouble.

In my opinion, allowing a third party shipper that is just starting up, and totally unproven, to have privelages that an established, good standing, loyal shipper can't do, is a slap in the face to them. Some reward for being loyal.

Expressing your concerns to Fedex is not going to ruin anything. It will let them know that you are concerned about the potential risks that are associated with allowing anyone to ship. It will also let them know that you are not happy with the fact that you can't do something that a third party shipping service can do, when you went through all of the necessary steps to show you were capible of shipping with incident. Not only will these things help protect us, by showing our concerns, but it will help to protect Fedex as well.
 
Yeah, definately is something wrong when a person who has undergone certification has not the priviledges of shipping residential while any joeblow who can stuff a snake into a poorly packed box, print a label and send it right to the buyer's door.
Am I getting this right? That now is a percievable disadvantage to getting certified? Is it just the claim of SYR allowing residential delivery or is there solid proof this is legit?
I hope is just a matter of time when certified shippers have that legit option. I would also like to get certified before this hatching season, but hub to hub works for me if not residential delivery.
 
brd7666 said:
The trouble is, most of the people who back SYR don't see the big picture, moreso now then ever. Some on the other hand, may refuse to even look at it, and refuse it all together, because they are so focused on being cheap. There are also those, who are given the information to see the big picture, but don't have the intelligence to understand it. I know money is tight for everyone, but people don't seem to understand what's at stake here, all for a five dollar savings.

It isn't even the people defending SYR that will ruin it, it's the people who don't care about how things are done, who would not normally ship. People who care, take the necassary steps that are involved with quality shipping, those who don't care, don't. There are people out there who will not ship at this time, some of those people should not be allowed to sahip anyway, even if they could ship. Those people who should not ship, will use a third party shipper.

The biggest mishaps that have occured recently that I have seen in over night services, were through SYR ,and I know one was on the news, at it gave the industry a huge black eye. Can someone point out any recent problems that a certified shipper has caused?

The majority of the population does not understand what we do. Not only that, they don't want to understand it. This is why we have to take the steps to show that we are capable, and knowledgable to do this properly. Look at all of the attacks on this industry right now. We need to minimize the areas of attacks for our enemies to use against us. Allowing anyone to ship something in an unregulated environment is an invitatation for trouble.

In my opinion, allowing a third party shipper that is just starting up, and totally unproven, to have privelages that an established, good standing, loyal shipper can't do, is a slap in the face to them. Some reward for being loyal.

Expressing your concerns to Fedex is not going to ruin anything. It will let them know that you are concerned about the potential risks that are associated with allowing anyone to ship. It will also let them know that you are not happy with the fact that you can't do something that a third party shipping service can do, when you went through all of the necessary steps to show you were capible of shipping with incident. Not only will these things help protect us, by showing our concerns, but it will help to protect Fedex as well.
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:iagree: Very well put!
 
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Hi Deb, it has been a while. I hope all is well with you.

Sorry, but I have no idea if their claim is valid or not? But I have forwarded this on to our live animals department and asked that they follow up with you. I’d give it a few days and if you don’t hear back, let me know. -Wayne
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My email to my Representative:

From: Deborah Broadus-Muskauski [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:27 AM
To: Wayne
Subject: Residential Deliveries


Hey Wayne,

long time, no talk. I must be one of your best clients, no muss no fuss and I try to follow the rules. :)

To get to the reason for this contact: http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131986 (you may need to register, but I PROMISE you, it's an legtimate issue and there's no spyware, adware, etc attached. :) )

In the thread above, Ship Your Reptiles (SYR) headed by Robyn Markland of Pro Exotics attempted being a Third Party Shipper with UPS. It was never confirmed if this was with UPS's blessings and approval. Apparently, after mutiple foul-ups, their shipping permit (if they had one) was yanked.

They are now saying that FedEx is giving them approval to be a third party shipper and this time WITH residential shipping privileges (which those with waivers do not have) and guaranteed shipping arrival times.

Can you tell me if this is on the up-and-up? If so, instead of going though a third party, how can I establish Residential Shipping privileges for myself?


Deborah Broadus-Muskauski
http://www.debscaptivebredballpythons.com
Baltimore, MD 21237
"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
~Eleanor Roosevelt~
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What makes you think that your rep is privy to the terms of the SYR/FedEx agreement. Any contract can be modified with only two lawyers and a stroke of a pen. Promise FedEx that you will float a couple of million a year their way and they will make exceptions for you to.
 
And BTW- I hope those are "facts" stated in that email to your FedEx rep rather than third person hearsay from anonymous message board posters. Thats borderline libel if your assertions are not so.
 
bwt501 said:
What makes you think that your rep is privy to the terms of the SYR/FedEx agreement. Any contract can be modified with only two lawyers and a stroke of a pen. Promise FedEx that you will float a couple of million a year their way and they will make exceptions for you to.
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Keep thinking of excuses not to do anything....perhaps you'll convince someone to say, "Oh what the heck, what's the use of trying? I'll never get anywhere...the cards are stacked against me..."


Nothing ventured, nothing gained is MY motto.:)
 
bwt501 said:
And BTW- I hope those are "facts" stated in that email to your FedEx rep rather than third person hearsay from anonymous message board posters. Thats borderline libel if your assertions are not so.
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It was suggested that you go read the threads, I would do so, if I were you.:rolleyes:
 
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