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Best morph to breed with pied...

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So I just got a male piebald (well he's in transit right now). He's just a baby, but I want to breed him when he's older. So here's the big question: what is the best female to get?

I noticed that albino pieds go for an insane price...this makes me think that there is something about trying to breed albino to pied that is really difficult.

I really like the Axanthic pieds. Not that I've seen any for sale, I've just seen pics.

I've bred snakes before, but never a morph. I have several years to do my research, but I will most likely get a female come this summer so I need to have an idea of what to get for a mate for my pie boy.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Links to advice?
 
There's nothing complicated about breeding albino x pied, but producing an albino pied can be a lengthy process. Honestly I can't think of any morph that wouldn't be interesting to breed to a pied. One I havn't seen yet ( not saying it hasn't been done, just saying I have not seen it ) is a genetic stripe pied. But really no matter what you choose you can't go wrong. Good luck.
 
Has anyone produced an Albino Spider Pied? I think that would be pretty sweet, but that's just me! Personally, albino spiders and pieds are my favs so if a mixture exists I will be forced to sell my kidney!
 
What should I breed it to questions basically all have the same answer - what do you like?
We can tell you any number of things to breed your pied to...but those are, in most cases, things that would us happy. YOU should make your purchases according to what makes YOU happy. Keep in mind that breeding your pied male to anything that is not at least heterozygous for pied will not produce any pied babies; so if you want pieds in your first litter...make sure that whatever else the female is, she is also het pied.


For me, the answer was pretty simple - I was never much of a fan of piebald ball pythons until I saw Steve Markevich's mojave pied (white gold). That combination is the only reason I have pieds in my collection.
 
I think this is going to be the first time that I've ever stated this, but I disagree with Harald.:eek: LOL...If it were ANY other animal than pied, I would wholeheartedly agree, BUT with pieds, I've seen some crosses that you just can't tell what they are, except for the spot on their head. Lesser pieds seem to do this and several combos involving multiple co-dom/dom traits (i.e. pewter pied).

I've been going over the same question in my snake room, as I recently acquired a pied and have been scratching my head, trying to decide what I'd like to create. Not saying that I'll never make a non-recessive combo (I do love those mojo pieds, and I have lots of mojos in my snake room :D) but I've pretty much decided on mixing it with other recessives. I don't know how big that penny will by the time you create double-hets and then try to hit the double morph, but the albino-pied will still look just as amazing as it does now!! :thumbsup:
 
Ignore Harald. Pieds are awesome!:)

hhmoore said:
What should I breed it to questions basically all have the same answer - what do you like?
We can tell you any number of things to breed your pied to...but those are, in most cases, things that would us happy. YOU should make your purchases according to what makes YOU happy. Keep in mind that breeding your pied male to anything that is not at least heterozygous for pied will not produce any pied babies; so if you want pieds in your first litter...make sure that whatever else the female is, she is also het pied.


For me, the answer was pretty simple - I was never much of a fan of piebald ball pythons until I saw Steve Markevich's mojave pied (white gold). That combination is the only reason I have pieds in my collection.
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Luckily I have all the time in the world. This is more of a 'long term' goal than a 'I want to breed snake right now'. I will start saving up some pennies and keep an eye out for an albino or xanthic that is het to pied. THanks!
 
Matt2979 said:
I think this is going to be the first time that I've ever stated this, but I disagree with Harald.:eek: LOL...If it were ANY other animal than pied, I would wholeheartedly agree, BUT with pieds, I've seen some crosses that you just can't tell what they are, except for the spot on their head. Lesser pieds seem to do this and several combos involving multiple co-dom/dom traits (i.e. pewter pied).

I've been going over the same question in my snake room, as I recently acquired a pied and have been scratching my head, trying to decide what I'd like to create. Not saying that I'll never make a non-recessive combo (I do love those mojo pieds, and I have lots of mojos in my snake room :D) but I've pretty much decided on mixing it with other recessives. I don't know how big that penny will by the time you create double-hets and then try to hit the double morph, but the albino-pied will still look just as amazing as it does now!! :thumbsup:
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Reading the first part of your statement, I can't help but wonder what part of my post you disagree with. Hopefully you'll help me out here...toward that end, I'll break it down into bite sized chunks, and you can tell me which point is the problem.

hhmoore said:
What should I breed it to questions basically all have the same answer - what do you like?
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We can tell you any number of things to breed your pied to...but those are, in most cases, things that would us happy. YOU should make your purchases according to what makes YOU happy.
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Keep in mind that breeding your pied male to anything that is not at least heterozygous for pied will not produce any pied babies; so if you want pieds in your first litter...make sure that whatever else the female is, she is also het pied.
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For me, the answer was pretty simple - I was never much of a fan of piebald ball pythons until I saw Steve Markevich's mojave pied (white gold). That combination is the only reason I have pieds in my collection.
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deborahbroadus said:
:( He told me my Pieds were ugly!:dgrin:
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Not exactly, I told you that I didn't like them. That didn't diminish my appreciation of your offer.

Matt2979 said:
I've seen your pieds (at least 1 or 2 of them) so I'm sure he was just jealous! :yesnod:
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That's probably what it was....these are the pieds I ended up with.
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Hopefully, Steve will post pics of my inspiration (his mojave pied)
 
hhmoore said:
Reading the first part of your statement, I can't help but wonder what part of my post you disagree with. Hopefully you'll help me out here...toward that end, I'll break it down into bite sized chunks, and you can tell me which point is the problem.
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Dang...you ARE cranky, huh?? :D

I was saying that I would have agreed with you stating that it's basically up to what the OP likes best, IF this was most any combo other than pied. I disagreed with this statement strictly about the pieds because some pied combos are 99% white with a small spot on their head (lesser, pewter, and others, but I'm not familiar enough to tell you which all come out looking the same). If the OP wants a solid white snake, he could do it a lot sooner/easier with a pair of mojos, or any other combo that makes a Blue, or Black, Eyed Lucy.

I DO agree that it's the OP's decision of what he likes best. Just think he might want to check out a few things about this gene before deciding which he wants (because of the fact that the appearance of the actual, visual morph combo may not be what he's expecting).
 
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