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What the hell Deb!

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You sell off your collection and shut down your reptile business and don't even offer me first chance at the lentigos? I have to hear about this from other sources! Not cool!
 
What happened to the 2 animals you bought from me that produced the 2 visual lentigos and the 3 clutch mates of the visuals?
That's a total of 7 animals.
 
Was that a stipulation when she bought them from you?

Unfortunately no but she recently offered to buy me out saying she wanted to protect her investment and was afraid I would start selling soon. Well dammit, it goes both ways. I should have gotten first shot at them if she was selling.
 
I am just really ticked right now. Evidently she posted links and went into detail about the lentigo project so they must have been included in the sale of the collection otherwise there would be no need to talk about them.
 
Whatever, they were mine to do with as I pleased. Just like yours was yours to do with as you pleased.

Have a good day.

Wow !! you buy them from Steve and their still being worked with and you want to buy his end out knowing u2 are what the only ones working with them & proving them out (thats what im getting ) ?
and then you decide to sell out your business and dont even let Steve have the first chance to buy them back (prolly woulda made more then you paid for them originally) .
and then you come back with a response like that ?
Well if thats how u do things im glad your getting out .. cause if not that definitely put you on the DO NOT Do Business with LIST ..
 
Nice. Real nice.
No common courtesy with you huh?
You just showed your true colors.
You and I were the only ones working on this project.
Not even a courtesy note to me asking if I wanted to buy the ANIMALS I PRODUCED back from you or a chance at the visuals and clutchmates.
When you offered to buy me out, I said no and told you that I was not going to be selling any animals until the genetics were worked out. You were worried I would be marketing these animals before then. I assured you I wasn't and what do you do, you go and sell your collection and not even have the decency or common courtesy to let me make an offer.
I have to find out thru the grapevine about what happened.
I am completely disgusted at you right now. I should have had first chance at any animals from this project.
Low Deb......very low.....
 
Sigh..common courtesy? They were MINE...what part of that don't you understand? I did not owe you anything. You did not owe me anything.

I raised those hets, I bred those hets, I had the patience and ability to produce from them. ME. Just because I gave you a couple of dollars for them back in the day and they "happened" to prove out, does not give you any "dibs.":shrug01:

Nice. Real nice.
No common courtesy with you huh?
You just showed your true colors.
You and I were the only ones working on this project.
Not even a courtesy note to me asking if I wanted to buy the ANIMALS I PRODUCED back from you or a chance at the visuals and clutchmates.
When you offered to buy me out, I said no and told you that I was not going to be selling any animals until the genetics were worked out. You were worried I would be marketing these animals before then. I assured you I wasn't and what do you do, you go and sell your collection and not even have the decency or common courtesy to let me make an offer.
I have to find out thru the grapevine about what happened.
I am completely disgusted at you right now. I should have had first chance at any animals from this project.
Low Deb......very low.....
 
Whatever, they were mine to do with as I pleased. Just like yours was yours to do with as you pleased.

Have a good day.

You know what. Before I say something I am going to regret, I am going to back away from this thread. You just proved the kind of person you really are. People can now see it for themselves. Thanks a lot Deb.
 
Sigh..common courtesy? They were MINE...what part of that don't you understand? I did not owe you anything. You did not owe me anything.

I raised those hets, I bred those hets, I had the patience and ability to produce from them. ME. Just because I gave you a couple of dollars for them back in the day and they "happened" to prove out, does not give you any "dibs.":shrug01:

Ooops, and you ddn't have to find out though a grapevine. I didn't hide anything. The Ad was right here on FAUNA and in a few other places. So, I have some sort of idea what kind of "spin" you and your friends want to put on my transaction in MY BUSINESS..but frankly you don't have a leg to stand on.:NoNo:
 
Sigh..common courtesy? They were MINE...what part of that don't you understand? I did not owe you anything. You did not owe me anything.

I raised those hets, I bred those hets, I had the patience and ability to produce from them. ME. Just because I gave you a couple of dollars for them back in the day and they "happened" to prove out, does not give you any "dibs.":shrug01:

Common courtesy would have been to allow me first chance to buy them since you and I were the ONLY ones working with these animals. Especially since you tried to buy me out "to protect your investment". But I guess common courtesy is not in your nature. Have a great night. :rolleyes:
 
Ooops, and you ddn't have to find out though a grapevine. I didn't hide anything. The Ad was right here on FAUNA and in a few other places. So, I have some sort of idea what kind of "spin" you and your friends want to put on my transaction in MY BUSINESS..but frankly you don't have a leg to stand on.:NoNo:

I never saw the ad. I was told about it after you sold the collection. A PM would have been nice asking if I was interested. You know I would have bought back at least the pair you got from me. It pisses me off that you never made any attempt to see if I was interested and sold them off.
 
Common courtesy would have been to allow me first chance to buy them since you and I were the ONLY ones working with these animals. Especially since you tried to buy me out "to protect your investment". But I guess common courtesy is not in your nature. Have a great night. :rolleyes:

Common courtesy would have been something you showed from the beginning of the whole issue, withholding the information that you no longer had the male did not generate any trust in you from my standpoint, and I certainly would not put any animals in YOUR hands.

So back off, child. It's not about my ethics so much as it is about you trying to put your own spin on my transaction.
 
I never saw the ad. I was told about it after you sold the collection. A PM would have been nice asking if I was interested. You know I would have bought back at least the pair you got from me. It pisses me off that you never made any attempt to see if I was interested and sold them off.

Didn't PM anyone. Got my own issues to handle. Don't have time to baby anyone up. It's over and done.

Too bad that grapevine didn't get to you sooner. You'll get over it. Life goes on.
 
It's not about my ethics

Evidently you have NO ethics. I have NEVER hidden any info from you, withheld anything I knew, nothing. You are so full of it. I was upfront with you about everything about this entire project. Everything. What animals were produced and what happened to them so don't try and pull this crap that you just couldn't let any of those animals get into my hands. I still have the transcript from chat when the whole project was discussed with you and when the name was decided on. You are the one trying to put the spin on this not me. I'm done. You have shown me exactly what type of person you really are.
 
Stop acting like a baby, Steve. She didn't owe you anything, they were her snakes that she could do with what she chose.
 
Doesn't anyone have common courtesy anymore?
She tries to buy me out but hey fuck you, you don't get a chance when I'm selling to even make an offer. That is bullshit.
 
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