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Bad Guy Dean Stemple Strictly Exotics BAD GUY!

Okay, so I am here to make a post, and it will only be one so enjoy it.

First of all, thank you to those who have supported me through all of this. I greatly appreciate it, especially from the people who don't know me whatsoever. Secondly, Brian, you have been on a witch hunt since the whole wise thread broke loose so why not continue it here. It made you feel important and I am sure that this thread does the same thing. Honestly, had I known that you were a personal friend of Chris since I bought the first 2500.00 worth of snakes from him the first time, I most likely wouldn't have.

Now, for my post...

Chris, I know the word sorry holds no water as you can't take it to the bank and change it for money. I know that I have apologized almost everytime we have spoken to each other in texts since this deal took place. I truly wished that I was able to keep in communications with you but your number was tied to my iPhone and not my sim card. Had it been tied to my sim card, I would have let you know what was going on a lit sooner.

Chris has done nothing wrong but trust that I was going to follow through with I promised to do. Was there risk involved, sure. We all take risks every single day of our life and this risk will come to fruition, just not in the time frame that I had promised and hoped for.

As for Reagan and me, yes we are separated as of right now and have been for some time. She left in December and I was not expecting it considering that we were getting along for the most part. I just thought it was her typical holiday blues thinking about the kids and such. Turns out that it was much more.

Had I known that it, divorce, was on the horizon (I never would have made the deal). I have too many bills for one person to pay to make that sort of purchase NOT being able to use a credit card that isn't already maxed out. Also, Reagan never had any choices or decisions in the business making. I always looked at Strictly Exotics LLc as my baby not hers. I may have told her what I was doing but, even though she is a member of the company, she isn't a managing member and has no say in what is done with it. Maybe that was one of the reasons she wanted to leave, who knows.

Either way... I freely admit that I owe Chris money, a lot of it to be exact. I am still trying to get everything back in order. I just moved back into my home, got my electric bill for 990.00 paid, my gas turned back on, and now my own phone not in her name. Yes, we are still friendly and still are on speaking terms. I don't hate her and hopefully she doesn't hate me. I understand why she left and will always support her decision to do so. Enough about her and that situation now.

I want to address a few of the things that have been brought up.... Faking tornado damage, eBay, wise thread, etc....

First of all, the tornado... Why on earth would I fake this? Do you know how many people offered help, donations, etc... that was turned down for this simple reason. I am sure somewhere somehow I must have faked the pics of all the damage. Wait! Maybe it was someone roses home and neighborhood I went to go take sympathy pics of. Yeah there was so much that I gained from that.

eBay issue. Brian you can keep beating that horse but that horse has been dead for over 10 years. You can call me a fraud, thief, crook, whatever you choose but the fact stil remains the same... I was never charged with a crime, convicted of a crime, jailed, arrested or even sued. Since you are the super sleuth, you might want to do more progressive research and find out why, especially considering I "duped" over 100,000.00 worth of merchandise from people right. Prove that this is a lie.

Now for the wise scam. You have been on this since someone else jumped that wagon. You say the doubt is there but you have never posted any proof and I would venture to bet that you never will. Now, I could tie your proof of my so-called involvement in it with my next payment to Chris but it would simply be unfair to Chris that his friend is an idiot. Did I bid on every item, sure. I bid as much as I was willing to pay for each and everything I bid on. To think, I only won two auctions as well, one for some geckos that I didn't want the current high bidder to win and secondly... T shirts that cost me 8.00 a pop that I ended up waiting almost 6 months to get completed. If that makes me involved with the wise scam, then I was involved. It was supposed to be a charity thing and I was feeling charitable, so sue me. One thing you fail to realize about my bidding, most all of it stopped once it hit about 75% of their value. At 50% I was all over everything unless I really wanted the item.

Since I will only post this one time, I will try to get as much out as possible. No, I do not know my password to my acct. I got an iPhone through Verizon and backed up my previous iPhones info and fauna just pulled up being that I used my last iPhone on fauna. As soon as it asks me for my password, I am screwed.
My website is down for nonpayment of my hosting site. I have been too broke to pay the 35.00 to keep it hosted. I haven't received emails from it on some time now. I think kevin was the last email that I received sometime in January. Now I know the super sleuths think the divorce or me running some sort of scam for some het boas and some ball pythons is the reason it's down but it simply isn't the truth. Also, yahoo places locks on their small business websites so you cannot just point them somewhere else unless you had previously asked for the lock to be removed. Had I know. That this was the case, I would have removed the lock when I first began my site. But yes, the divorce also played a minor role in why the site is also down.

For those who think that me posting my inventory, financials, assets, and debts constitutes a positive for someone in the process of a divorce is smart, I cannot wait to view yours. FYI I have more than 86 snakes and even though I may owe on those specific 86, there is still tons more inventory that I do not owe for that Reagan would be entitled to if she decides to go that route. Even though she says in this public forum that she wasn't after the business she is/ was entitled to half of it since the day we got married. This is the biggest reason why I would not come here to fight the detectives hard at work. That brings up the fact that I am surprised that with all of the fantastic, cheap, detective work that no one actually found the first marriage license exactly 2 years before the SECOND (legal) marriage.

Again... Chris I do sincerely apologize and will make things right with this deal. Brian you can keep your apology to yourself when that times comes as well as everyone else that will feel compelled to give one. I could care less to hear them as I have no dealings with you on a business level and nothing personal, but, most likely I don't care for you much either.

For those who withstood the heat in supporting me, tried to understand, got called names, etc... Thank you and I appreciate you as well as your support in this tough time.

The snakes will not be going up for sale on fauna and were never going up for sale on fauna. They are for my pretend retail location where my pretend business license is located. Brian... Why not actually fork up some cash and pay the state of Oklahoma to find out where my business is licensed at. You have been proven wrong many times in this thread and yet to have admitted to making a mistake so I won't help you in your witch hunt. If you want the information, you will have to pay the state to get it.

One more thing I want to address... My address and phone number have been posted in this thread a few times, yet through all of this, not one knock on my door or phone call except by Tyler. So, until you can be cyber tough on my phone or in person, stfu. You don't need to show up at my place of business to be the tough guy, just show up at the address posted.

First of all, thanks for showing up. I knew if I kept up with my so called witch hunt, that you would get tired of reading it, and make an effort to come here and post.

The comment you made about not buying from Chris if you knew he was my friend, you are only saying now, after the fact, because of what I have posted in this thread. If Chris did offer to sell to you in the future, and you didn't buy from him, then that would be your loss. Chris has quality animals, that get great care. Not only is your statement unfair to Chris, it shows how imature you are.

You can make all of the excuses you want. It shows a lack of professionalism, care, concern, and feelings towards others. Chris got one lie after the next from you, followed by one excuse after the other, and then after all that, he got complete silence from you. You call yourself a business man, but you keep business records, ect, on a vulnorable device like a portable telephone, or so you claim. That is just plain, bad business. If you had been considerate, and cared about Chris in the first place, none of this would be here. This is here, because of your actions, and no one elses. Blaming others for what is posted in this thread, is just trying to take the heat off of your complete lack of professionalism. It is your actions, or lack of actions, that got this thread here in the first place, not mine, or anyone elses.

You can think I have a strong dislike for you, but that was not true before this thread. It wasn't a dislike from me towards you that fueled my continuos accusations. What fueled me was the fact that you screwed over one of the nicest guys in the business, who is not only outstanding in this community, but is also a very good family man, and yes, he is a friend of mine who I have known for quite a few years. So, you really should not down talk Chris, or anything about him, because of his association with me. By doing that, you are trying to create a problem between Chris, and me. Chris has been more then fair with you, and did not diserve the situation you have created.

If you have negative feelings towards me, then keep them towards me. I acted alone in what I have done here, and Chris had nothing to do with anything I have posted. Chris never asked for my involvment.

Just because you were not convicted of anything in the Ebay stuff, does not mean that you did not do it. Anyone who thinks untherwise is only fooling themselves, as you well know.

Personnally, I wish it didn't have to come this far.

Now, I could tie your proof of my so-called involvement in it with my next payment to Chris but it would simply be unfair to Chris that his friend is an idiot.

You can call me all the names you want, you are not hurting me in any way. The fact is, you are the reason this is here. It's all of your lies, and excuses that brought this here. Had you been in communication this wouldn't be here. Your claims of poor business practices, and poor choices for keeping business records is your fault, and no one else, and your excuses are just that, an excuse, which at the end of the day, amounts to nothing. So, just based on your own admittance, if you would like to see an idiot, wipe the steam from the mirror.

As for the apology. Dean, when you finish paying Chris, I will be more then happy to appologize. If you don't want my apology when or if the time comes, if you don't like my apology when or if the time comes, if you don't believe my apology when or if the time comes, or if you don't believe I give a sincere apology when or if the time comes, that's fine, that is your choice. The fact is, I will be more then happy to apologize when or if the time comes, and I will do it with or without your acceptance. If you or anyone else doesn't choose to accept it when it comes, then that is your decision, but I not only want you to know, but I want every member and non member to know, that when or if it comes, it will be sincere.

One more thing I want to address... My address and phone number have been posted in this thread a few times, yet through all of this, not one knock on my door or phone call except by Tyler. So, until you can be cyber tough on my phone or in person, stfu. You don't need to show up at my place of business to be the tough guy, just show up at the address posted.

I always get a kick out of this kind of a statement. The computer tough guy crap. This has nothing to do with being tough, weak, or anywhere in between. It is you who is the ultimate creator of this mess, and you alone. Now you want to act like you are a victom, like a bully is picking on you. You picked on yourself, and from the stuff plastered all over the internet about you, you have been picking on yourself for some time. I don't have bad guy stuff about me all over the internet, and the overwelming percentage of the members of this community don't have anything negative about them on the internet, so you can stop with the you are a victom crap. You are the cause, and you are the effect, no one else.

To be honest Dean, I don't care where your business is located. I wanted to know if it really existed. So, here is some advise for you, It was the online directory's that have no record of your business. Why don't you get it there to them. Those on line directory's are the one's people use in this day and age to find the kind of business they are looking for. Most people don't even use a phone book any more. You are the one losing the potential business of those on line searchers, who are looking for goods and services in your area.

I will also say that the payment you sent Chris is certainly a step in the right direction. I was happy to see it, and I'm sure the others here were also happy to see it. You still have a long way to go, and everyone here hopes you continue to pay him.

At this point in time, Dean Stemple, I wish you luck.
 
Brian, you are wrong. I have never liked you and yes, had I known beforehand that you were a close friend of his at the time, I most likely would have never bought the first 2500.00 worth of boas. Believe it or not I could care less. I didn't like you when ou trying to sniff someones panties on here many many moons ago.

As for your personal vendetta towards me, yes you have one. You may like to believe that you don't just like you like to believe that I have lied to Chris from day one, which I still waiting for the proof. Also, where did I state that all of my business records are kept on a phone? Again, you assume (which you do quite a bit) that I kept anything more than contact information, which completely makes sense to me, in my phone.

Also Brian, I haven't ever said anything derogatory towards Chris, the animals I received from him, and the way he has treated me. I have no problems with him starting this thread and I have no qualms admittedly owing him money. Chris even resolved an issue I had with my first deal with him and no questions asked. Anything negative that I have posted here has not been toward Chris, NOTHING.

But Brian, my issue(s) with you is that you show no proof. No physical proof that I have actually ever lied, ever was involved with some elaborate scam in some fundraiser or was abducted by aliens. The only place where you have shown proof is in your head. Apparently that's all the proof that you need Brian to say that I am a bad person of whatever. You know what, that's cool with me too because I could care less what you think or how you feel towards me. You are a follower in life and never take the lead in anything. I am pretty sure you have been this way all of your life.

Don't take it personally Brian but YOU were not the reason I responded here or acknowledged my debt to Chris. It was the fact that it was Chris and the people who supported me whether they did it openly or not that I posted here. I responded when I was able to and only read the thread after 1030pm last night. I did not follow the thread at all and most likely won't follow the thread unless I happen to be on fauna, which has been rare to say the least since that private chat about me with Christina took place when I wasn't invited to the dance. If you remember correctly, a lot of me changed regarding fauna at that time. That is something that you can take partial credit in Brian being that you were a huge party in that. Hell maybe ou were involved considering that you were one of the few personally invited by Christina herself.
 
I don't owe anyone here an explanation but Chris.

This is one of the only statements (which was made by a few others previously) that I agree with in this entire thread. I'm sorry that you've gone through what you have gone through, and I'm sorry that it has effected Chris the way it has, but Dean I am very glad to see you making an effort. I hope, for both yours and Chris', sake that you are able to follow through and get this resolved. That's really the only important outcome of this thread. The rest is really no one's business.
 
Okay, so I am here to make a post, and it will only be one so enjoy it.

So much for the truth from your opening statement. How many times have we heard this from someone on the negative side of a BOI thread? How many times has it actually been done? If you are lying about something as simple as this what else are you willing to lie about?

The ONLY thing that pertains to this thread is that I admittedly owe Chris money. Nothing else matters here despite how or what you might feel. Sorry but it's the cold hard truth. I owe him and I will pay him nothing more and nothing less.

Agreed. All the other crap (and I do mean crap) about your divorce / separation, phone, electric, gas, etc... is a ploy which dishonest people use to deflect the attention away from themselves, the subject at hand and a call for pity (aw, poor widdle Dean is having a rough time of it, so let's all feel sorry for him). It's called manipulation and you are doing a piss poor job at it.

If you truly wanted to make good with Chris you could have easily contacted another member here and requested that person to either get Chris' contact information or provided your contact information so that Chris could )finally) get a hold of you. Instead, this thread had to be posted and then you procrastinate responding here to Chris after lying to him about the "money order is in the mail", "got lost in the mail". :icon_bs:

I'm glad that you have finally stepped up to the plate and began sending Chris the money you owe him and I hope you continue to do so and have him paid in full in the very near future.

Not that my opinion would matter to you but I am very disappointed in the way in which you have handled this and I thought better of you. You know better and you should be ashamed of yourself. :NoNo:

Any further postings other then updates from Chris that he is receiving payments from you is a waste of server space and everyone's time and as you said, it doesn't matter.
 
Dave, you're right, I could care less what you have to think or say. You are also right I lied about making one single post. Other then that, I have made no lies and I am not looking for pity, especially from someone of your fine stature. Personally, I blame you as to why some things were handled badly in another thread and another issue.

You still fail to understand that I didn't have access to the Internet or fauna to get Chris's info. Again, I personally don't care if you believe it or not as it has no merit on what had transpired. The communication stopped because I had no way of continuing it regardless if I could gain the contact info or not. I am sure if I continued the conversations with Chris we wouldn't be here today and I fully accept that and have no issues with it being here. It was my fault and I accept that 100%.
 
Brian, you are wrong. I have never liked you and yes, had I known beforehand that you were a close friend of his at the time, I most likely would have never bought the first 2500.00 worth of boas. Believe it or not I could care less. I didn't like you when ou trying to sniff someones panties on here many many moons ago.

I don't know who you are refering to. I have been in a relationship with the same women longer then I have been a member of this site. It's possible you might think that based on some post's, but I don't know.


As for your personal vendetta towards me, yes you have one. You may like to believe that you don't just like you like to believe that I have lied to Chris from day one, which I still waiting for the proof. Also, where did I state that all of my business records are kept on a phone? Again, you assume (which you do quite a bit) that I kept anything more than contact information, which completely makes sense to me, in my phone.

I find it funny that you continue to say that I have no proof. Chris posted all the emails, and text messages from you. Those are proof enough. And sence you are so bent on proof, where is your proof you are not lying??? Contact information is certainly the came thing as business records, when you owe that person money. Your lovely wife posted that she took your phone from you, and because of that, you lost all of your contace information for Chris, and I believe you confirmed that yourself. So, there is no assuming on my part, just more pathetic excuses on your part.

Also Brian, I haven't ever said anything derogatory towards Chris, the animals I received from him, and the way he has treated me. I have no problems with him starting this thread and I have no qualms admittedly owing him money. Chris even resolved an issue I had with my first deal with him and no questions asked. Anything negative that I have posted here has not been toward Chris, NOTHING.

You have said something deragatory towards Chris. You dislike me, so you would chose to dislike him or not do business with him, based on his association with me. You are saying guilty by association, which is completely unfair to Chris.


But Brian, my issue(s) with you is that you show no proof. No physical proof that I have actually ever lied, ever was involved with some elaborate scam in some fundraiser or was abducted by aliens. The only place where you have shown proof is in your head. Apparently that's all the proof that you need Brian to say that I am a bad person of whatever. You know what, that's cool with me too because I could care less what you think or how you feel towards me. You are a follower in life and never take the lead in anything. I am pretty sure you have been this way all of your life.

I am not a follower, and there were several members here who saw a possibilty of something when the pieces of the puzzle were brought to light. Based on what was presented, and your frienly relationship with the Wise's, it was worth looking in to. I never said you were actually a part of the scam, but I did say, that it was possible. And I would gladly accept being a follower in life, over being a leader in one of the biggest scams in Ebay history.

Don't take it personally Brian but YOU were not the reason I responded here or acknowledged my debt to Chris. It was the fact that it was Chris and the people who supported me whether they did it openly or not that I posted here. I responded when I was able to and only read the thread after 1030pm last night. I did not follow the thread at all and most likely won't follow the thread unless I happen to be on fauna, which has been rare to say the least since that private chat about me with Christina took place when I wasn't invited to the dance. If you remember correctly, a lot of me changed regarding fauna at that time. That is something that you can take partial credit in Brian being that you were a huge party in that. Hell maybe ou were involved considering that you were one of the few personally invited by Christina herself.

You seem to be stuck on this theory of a special invite into the chat that took place. That is not true. It was a spur of the moment thing, that was purely coincedental. I just happen to go into chat, like the others, when Christina happened to be there. Later today, I will prove to you and everyone, just who was in on the chat at some point. I was not even a part of the auctions, as a bidder, buyer, seller, donator, contributor in any way, or whatever else you can come up with. It will take some time for me to crop all of the chat screen shots, to where you will see the members involved in the chat. I will post that portion only, just to prove of just how many people were in the chat, at one point or another. The conversations are irrelavent at this point, but for some reason you seem to think there was a special invite, so I will show that people came and went, while the conversation took place. Due to the distractions in the main lobby in chat, Deb did create a private room, and even then, there were people coming and going.

It was quicker for me to respond this way, with my responces in red. I will be posting some time later today again.
 
This is one of the only statements (which was made by a few others previously) that I agree with in this entire thread. I'm sorry that you've gone through what you have gone through, and I'm sorry that it has effected Chris the way it has, but Dean I am very glad to see you making an effort. I hope, for both yours and Chris', sake that you are able to follow through and get this resolved. That's really the only important outcome of this thread. The rest is really no one's business.

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Im just glad that things are back on the right track and Dean is IMO trying to make this right... Chris recived a Money Order yes for only 200 but you have to start somewhere right?? A small start but a good start...
Dean I have to say this much that Utta wasn't the only one to call you I tried but it rang busy.

Now I belive we can drop this where it sits unless Chris comes back and states that Dean isn't paying him back anymore which I dont see happening as Dean IMO is trying to make this right.....
 
Brian, why not post the chat instead of what you want for me to see. You cannot tell that there was not a private chat with you involved being that I was told about it as it was happening? Sure, I know he other person that was involved in this chat as well. If you are so concerned with the other names mentioned, why not black those out to where it only pertains to me? I've told you many many times to follow through with what you started only to be dismissed by your flagrant and vague accusations.

As for the eBay thing, again, do your actual research rather than plagurize articles on the Internet regarding it. I know why I wasn't charged with any crime regarding that issue as well know what happened there. Again Brian, I wasn't even sued by ONE person in that matter. For something on such a grand scale and since so many people were screwed, ever wonder why I was not sued or charged?
Next conspiracy theory, I was the reason eBay stocks skyrocketed through the roof that year.
 
Dave, you're right, I could care less what you have to think or say. You are also right I lied about making one single post. Other then that, I have made no lies and I am not looking for pity, especially from someone of your fine stature. Personally, I blame you as to why some things were handled badly in another thread and another issue.

Again with the deflection and manipulation. If you were only smarter you would see how much more asinine you are making yourself look. You of all people are going to preach to anyone about handling anything badly. Keep up with playing dodge ball you pathetic hypocritical sorry excuse for a human being.

You still fail to understand that I didn't have access to the Internet or fauna to get Chris's info. Again, I personally don't care if you believe it or not as it has no merit on what had transpired. The communication stopped because I had no way of continuing it regardless if I could gain the contact info or not. I am sure if I continued the conversations with Chris we wouldn't be here today and I fully accept that and have no issues with it being here. It was my fault and I accept that 100%.

You are a liar! (or a complete simpleton) Anybody with the IQ over 15 points knows that you can simply go to any public library (that's the place the with all the books with the pretty pictures) and access the internet. Or you could have gone to a friend's house or did Reagan get all those in the divorce?

I guess you are just hell bent on completely covering your name in excrement. Well keep up the lies and you will finally achieve a goal in your life.
 
I find it funny that you continue to say that I have no proof. Chris posted all the emails, and text messages from you. Those are proof enough. And sence you are so bent on proof, where is your proof you are not lying???

Actually the burden of proof is on you TO PROVE he is lying.
 
Dean, You are a smart guy, and have to be able to see where I was coming from with my posts, and the correlation between the time that the chat happened, you stopped hanging around fauna, and your wife decided she was going to leave you.

You are right in saying that you were contacted about the chat as it was happening. I told you about it and gave you the password. It was set up on a whim, and I gained access without an invitation. I gave the password to all who were there. Everyone in chat at the time went, and most of us got kicked out.

Once the chat ended though, you went on a rant. You even made a post laced with profanity. I assumed that if you could get yourself banned with a threat and curse filled post, you wouldn't have to leave on your own. People would understand why you were leaving, as they could read the post and see. However, that didn't happen. The attention was then turned back to Christina, and enough stink was made that she got banned, and has not been able to say anything to clarify what she said about your involvement. I don't think anyone believed it anyway, but you sure protested a whole lot.

I too am willing to apologize when Chris is paid. I simply looked at the time line provided, and in your absence thought it pertinent.

As far as your inventory, and Reagan getting half, would she not also have to take on half of the debt, should she go that route?
 
Brian, why not post the chat instead of what you want for me to see. You cannot tell that there was not a private chat with you involved being that I was told about it as it was happening? Sure, I know he other person that was involved in this chat as well. If you are so concerned with the other names mentioned, why not black those out to where it only pertains to me? I've told you many many times to follow through with what you started only to be dismissed by your flagrant and vague accusations.

As for the eBay thing, again, do your actual research rather than plagurize articles on the Internet regarding it. I know why I wasn't charged with any crime regarding that issue as well know what happened there. Again Brian, I wasn't even sued by ONE person in that matter. For something on such a grand scale and since so many people were screwed, ever wonder why I was not sued or charged?
Next conspiracy theory, I was the reason eBay stocks skyrocketed through the roof that year.

I guess all of those people who wrote those articles about you and Ebay, are on a witch hunt like me. The more you deny it, the more pathetic you look. I got ripped off by a guy in Texas on Ebay, and I called the police, but in the end, it wasn't worth my time, so I let it go. Just becuase you weren't prosecuted, doesn't mean you didn't do it.

I don't have any court documents either of people trying to sue me like you do. Melissa Crawford was seeking more then $10,000.00 from you. That has never happened to me, and I bet that most of the members here, weren't taken to court by someone seeking something.

You have nothing but negativity associated with your name all over the place, why don't the rest of us?
 
You are a liar! (or a complete simpleton) Anybody with the IQ over 15 points knows that you can simply go to any public library (that's the place the with all the books with the pretty pictures) and access the internet. Or you could have gone to a friend's house or did Reagan get all those in the divorce?

And exactly what good would that do if you cant get to your email? You still have the same problem just on a different machine.

I am very computer savy... but I have to admit that I dont keep emails wrote down anywhere and I have lost phone numbers in the past because they were only in my phone.

Does this make it right. No .... but for some folks it is a fact of life. We rely on electronics way too much and when they go down we are :censored: out of luck.
 
And access what Dave? My email that had been closed down or my fauna acct to which I had no access to? Should I have contacted you to get his information? Sure I know what a library is and yes I know what a public payphone is as well. As for friends in OKC, the closest people that I consider friends here live more than two hours away. I had other issues at hand and I admit that. I haven't deflected from anything that I have posted Dave. YES, I owe him money. YES, I am going to pay him his money as soon as humanly possible. Where is the deflection there? How is there any deflection when I admittingly owe him money and plan on paying him? I am not making excuses about it, not denying it whatsoever. I am just merely explaining the situation that I am currently in, kinda like what you do when you complain and moan about your health Dave. You keep crying liar along with Brian. I am defending myself about those issues, nothing else.

I haven't complained about the product that I received from Chris. To me, that would be deflection. Placin blame elsewhere, that would also be deflection in my opinion. When someone states that they are totally at fault for what has transpired, how the he'll is that deflection?
 
Davey, I understand where you are coming from but don't understand the correlation regarding Reagan leaving me. It had nothing to do with the wise thread but more of a fight in which I ended up in the hospital with limited use of finger permanently. It was ugly and we as a family never recovered.

As you can tell from m postings, I pretty mug stopped posting anything interesting from the point that the whole chat thing transpired. In fact, I made mention of my suspicions regarding the whole wise scam months before anything even transpired. Did I mention it publicly, no. My reasoning behind that is that I don't believe in accusing people of wrongdoing until I have proof.

Brian, the person you mention (Melissa) was an ex fiancé that had nothing to do win the eBay issue. To be honest, if I was being sued by her, I didn't even know it.
 
Davey, I understand where you are coming from but don't understand the correlation regarding Reagan leaving me.
I will break it down as simply as I can.
Reagan says she left you in December, after deciding she was going to leave 6 months prior. 6 months and one week prior, Christina said you were involved in the scam. It is logical that if you were involved, and a poop storm was coming, Reagan would want to get away. It fit the time line offered. Nothing more.
 
Also, I am sure that it was stated somewhere that I made contact with someone from this site as soon as I had te chance to do so. And no offense to that person whom I left a voicemail with stating what was going on in my life didn't call me back. So your whole theory of contacting someone from here Dave makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Brian, the person you mention (Melissa) was an ex fiancé that had nothing to do win the eBay issue. To be honest, if I was being sued by her, I didn't even know it.

It doesn't matter if you were sued or not. The fact remains, the court documents are there. People just don't go around filing claims against people for no reason. The document says that it was settled, and dismissed. I guess she was on a witch hunt too.
 
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