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Incubation; Schmincubation...... Maternal
- Thread starter Amelanistic Orca
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Focal
New member
Nice Tom! What do you have in there?
Amelanistic Orca
Well-known member
This is seven shots at some flourescent NERD Line Caramels.. Het x Het and last year were nine possible's and no vizzy's.. Shoulda never sold the ones I had!! I just want a screamer male for my "other" females.. I think these are two possible's I'm lookin' at here? I'm pretending I'm not in this predicament.. El oh well.. Lol..
Focal
New member
LOL, well good luck Tom. I'll be praying to the Odds-Gods for you 
A&S Reptiles
Sam Walters
That's really cool, Tom! I hope you have a gorgeous caramel boy somewhere in there.
Amelanistic Orca
Well-known member
That's really cool, Tom! I hope you have a gorgeous caramel boy somewhere in there.
Thank you Sam!!
Quiet Tempest
New member
Love brooding pics. You're braver than I in cutting, though.
You're braver than I in cutting, though.
GreenCountryHerp
Danny Jenkins
Way to go Tom!!! Hopefully you get some vizzies in there!!!!
KY Reptiles
WikidKitty..... Rawr!!
Very kewl Tom!! Let's go caramels!!!!
Focal
New member
Anything come out yet? What are the results?
Matt2979
My dawg has the bluuues.
Can't wait to see that you got enough visuals to make up for the last clutch!!!
Amelanistic Orca
Well-known member
Thank you very much for the well wishes on this one.. I need em; so far; nobody's popped heads out; top two are possible's; of course! Thanks again everybody; I will update thread as it unfolds..
deborahbroadus
HARD CANDY
Amelanistic Orca
Well-known member
I ruined it!!!
Well; not really; got two sweet young possible's outta this. No vizzy's; and I am not happy bout that! Have scrapped the parents and ever pairing them again. 7 eggs; 5 killed by me's; and 2 awesome normals (male's).... lol.. If you are gonna attempt maternal inc.; please: leave em alone!! Lesson 1 and only!! Thank you. Here are the only pics that were worth anything. Boring I might mention; but, oh well..
Well; not really; got two sweet young possible's outta this. No vizzy's; and I am not happy bout that! Have scrapped the parents and ever pairing them again. 7 eggs; 5 killed by me's; and 2 awesome normals (male's).... lol.. If you are gonna attempt maternal inc.; please: leave em alone!! Lesson 1 and only!! Thank you. Here are the only pics that were worth anything. Boring I might mention; but, oh well..
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Amelanistic Orca
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Thanks to everyone for their support on my attempt at maternal failure; it almost succeeded!!!! lol
Quiet Tempest
New member
Sorry about the losses. What happened?
Amelanistic Orca
Well-known member
I'm pretty embarrassed about it; but if it helps someone else out; don't cut the eggs; that's what I learned... What you see is what you get; and if it don't hatch; it wasn't meant to be!!!
Quiet Tempest
New member
Ahh. Yeah. Moms will continue coiling them (sometimes very tightly) them until they start to pip on their own. If you cut, then the egg loses its integrity and can't protect the embryo against outside influence. Moms will usually loosen their coils when they start feeling the eggs pip. At least, that's how it has happened with the clutches I've had so far. Sorry you had some losses in this clutch. I hope the next one is more successful.
I hope the next one is more successful.
Amelanistic Orca
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Ahh. Yeah. Moms will continue coiling them (sometimes very tightly) them until they start to pip on their own. If you cut, then the egg loses its integrity and can't protect the embryo against outside influence. Moms will usually loosen their coils when they start feeling the eggs pip. At least, that's how it has happened with the clutches I've had so far. Sorry you had some losses in this clutch.
Thank you much Tempest.. Minor learning curve; shoulda yanked the cut eggs and set in an incubator.. Bummer; learned a little late on that one; and yes; they do loosen there at the end.. lol.
R. Eventide
So say we all!
Actually, my guess at the deaths is because you cut them far, far too early. Maternal incubation means they're incubating at lower temperatures, which means they'll take longer to develop. I think day 50 is too early at 89 degrees, let alone maternal incubation (which, I'm guessing, was probably much lower than 89 degrees).
EDIT: I also bet that the snakes in the first pic aren't necessarily Caramels. At two weeks before pipping, their colors aren't fully developed yet.
EDIT: I also bet that the snakes in the first pic aren't necessarily Caramels. At two weeks before pipping, their colors aren't fully developed yet.